request on that umbrafy frames thing from prime time.

[BloodKitten]

please consider making it reuseable, and also allo permenant conversion with an umbra forma, since you cant obtain those outside of nightwave once in a few months.

[Moriscu]

As well as making allied AI ignoring invulnerable enemies under certain ability effects, such as Garuda's Blood Altar or Titania's Lantern. Otherwise these two would make a perfect combo for trolling players with 'umbrified' warframes.

Edited August 31, 2019 by Morisabeau

[(PSN)Hikuro-93]

I believe it's reusable. At least once per frame, like an Aura Forma. Don't know for certain.

But with those drop rates and such a limited time for such a poopy reward... Imagine if you had to farm both blueprints, each with 0.2 chance, just to have a 24h half-baked specter. And once those 24h are up you'll have to farm it all again to have it again in your frame.

Even as it apparently stands it's already a poop reward, imagine if we had to do it all the time to access it.

[NoLazyShadow]

And let's not forget that this upcoming ablity is just a straight nerf to Umbra. I was dissapointed when I saw him having only one unique ability. And now you take his passive away? Bad move DE...

[Birdframe_Prime]

DE said that other frames would be getting an 'umbra', but they specifically said not all frames.

They're important, supposedly linked to stories, one may come about in The New War, we don't know. But we aren't ever going to be able to just... 'umbrafy' an existing frame, that's not how Umbra itself even works.

Umbra Forma is also being deliberately squeezed now too, because they don't want us to have free access to it, they don't want us farming it. I'm genuinely surprised that they're letting us get as many as one per ten weeks, that seems actually generous when they were so hesitant about letting Umbra Forma even exist in game.

[(PSN)FriendSharkey]

This should have been automatic and permanent once a player has installed three umbral forma on a frame....

[BloodKitten]

33 minutes ago, Birdframe_Prime said:

DE said that other frames would be getting an 'umbra', but they specifically said not all frames.

They're important, supposedly linked to stories, one may come about in The New War, we don't know. But we aren't ever going to be able to just... 'umbrafy' an existing frame, that's not how Umbra itself even works.

Umbra Forma is also being deliberately squeezed now too, because they don't want us to have free access to it, they don't want us farming it. I'm genuinely surprised that they're letting us get as many as one per ten weeks, that seems actually generous when they were so hesitant about letting Umbra Forma even exist in game.

the diffrance would be, umbra frames have access to thier abilities, some use ultimates if within reason (for example, valkyer would activate hysteria for a few seconds when low on health) while the normal frames with umbra forma will only be able to use thier ranged weapon, or a melee if no other weapons eqipped so in that sense they would be glass cannons in some cases since they dont have the health, shield and armor multiplier normal specters get so you cant make a tanky trinity due to low armor value, and unless its an umbra frame with a quest tied to it, it wont use any of its abilities and would effectivly be a walking turret.

[Birdframe_Prime]

8 minutes ago, BloodKitten said:

the diffrance would be, umbra frames have access to thier abilities, some use ultimates if within reason (for example, valkyer would activate hysteria for a few seconds when low on health) while the normal frames with umbra forma will only be able to use thier ranged weapon

I don't think you're actually understanding the point.

You can't 'umbrafy' a frame, because the umbra process, as shown by the quest 'The Sacrifice' is something that only happens when the Warframe is created. It's even explained in both the Vitruvian part of the quest and in other bits of Lore such as the Mirage Prime trailer how frames are created and what can influence them.

Putting Umbral Forma on a warframe will not, and never should, create any form of Umbral Warframe. That's just the term for the build, and won't ever grant any kind of new passive.

As I said, some frames are actually getting Umbra style variants, DE have confirmed this although they haven't confirmed when. But not all frames will get them, unlike Primes because every frame gets a Prime.

Heck, the next Umbral style frame may be an Umbral Loki, and his passive might not be that he wanders around using his weapons and abilities at all, he might become invisible and be able to hack consoles or use Finishers on targeted enemies for you.

The passives for the Umbral frames may all be different.

[(XBOX)GearsMatrix301]

Or they could maybe think of a different reward entirely. Because I find literally no benefit in using it. I’d honestly take more peculiar mods.

[(PSN)drollive96]

Frames the are "Umbrafied" should be able to use their abilities, in ny opinion, the only reason people use a frame is for its abilities, taking them away makes the whole thing seem pointless