844448 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, NekroArts said: I'm gonna be honest, that just sound like iFlynns "how to play x warframe in 2019" - desperately making videos. While this certainly would make good videos, at best I can only believe that few out of "42 frames, and more than 100 weapon" combinations will be worth watching while others will feel like repeats of them. Example. DoubleXXF makes mostly Tridolon videos with different variations, but I only find a few of his different approaches worth watching. I mean he has a some videos of "Chroma 6x3 with 'x' weapon" but they're basically the same thing - hitting hard with weapons and Chroma. I won't call them educational videos when I see a riven involved, at that moment it's just power flexing. Flexing that actually makes me want to watch videos of the same premise is his Tridolon speedruns. Going faster than his previous record is an achievement. Look at Nash Prime, the profit taker video with banshee is neat and pretty intense considering banshee can't even take a graze on the knee by a stray bullet A video with chroma and x weapon is certainly power flexing but using excal or mag for 6x3? Is there anyone has done it before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)thowed Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Never watched a streamer and can't even name any besides the ones I've seen mentioned in these forums. I found Warframe and spent money without them. Others can to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Kakurine2 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) Learn well my fellows the rule of three fs. Its blunt, crude, and unkind. But its the truth. Edited August 28, 2019 by (PS4)Kakurine2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekroArts Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, 844448 said: Look at Nash Prime, the profit taker video with banshee is neat and pretty intense considering banshee can't even take a graze on the knee by a stray bullet A video with chroma and x weapon is certainly power flexing but using excal or mag for 6x3? Is there anyone has done it before? I should be more clearer on this part: 19 minutes ago, NekroArts said: at best I can only believe that few out of "42 frames, and more than 100 weapon" combinations will be worth watching while others will feel like repeats of them. Seeing them doing it with Banshee, Excal, and Mag the first time will get me interested but after like 3rd and so-on times for each of them with a different weapon will mostly feel the same. Unless, what they used is different enough to watch. Example: Ivara with using a bow on tridolon "Ok, cool" Ivara using another bow on tridolon "That's the same thing" Ivara using Javlok on tridolon "Even though it's a different weapon, it still feels like same thing - over the top damage" Ivara using Javlok's Throw on tridolon "Ok, that got me interested" Edited August 28, 2019 by NekroArts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bibmobello Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, NekroArts said: I'm gonna be honest, that just sound like iFlynns "how to play x warframe in 2019" - desperately making videos. While this certainly would make good videos, at best I can only believe that few out of "42 frames, and more than 100 weapon" combinations will be worth watching while others will feel like repeats of them. Example. DoubleXXF makes mostly Tridolon videos with different variations, but I only find a few of his different approaches worth watching. I mean he has a some videos of "Chroma 6x3 with 'x' weapon" but they're basically the same thing - hitting hard with weapons and Chroma. I won't call them educational videos when I see a riven involved, at that moment it's just power flexing. Flexing that actually makes me want to watch videos of the same premise is his Tridolon speedruns. Going faster than his previous record is an achievement. This is the worst problem of warframe. Tridolon is the only challenge this game can offer but it's obviously thought for frames with damage multipliers in mind. Volt, Chroma, Rhino, Ivara(yes Ivara) but even Mirage and Titania can do the job. Streamers show only the same stupid video of 6X3 with chroma and the same coordinated squad making the same stuff for thousand of times. Then you see a "normal " players with 300+ strength chroma and a good riven for a lanka asking to me why he can't 1 shot a limb and and i can with ivara, or wow you can do that with Ivara or sometimes they just left me alone... This because people have no idea what to do and they rely only on a bunch of external stupid streamers to barely understand what to do. In other games they would have improved the fight, i don't know removing spamming energy pizzas or releasing other frames able to fight an Eidolon or or adding some new feature. Instead they don't ,they continue to release useless mods and even more useless frames. People and streamers gets bored after a while, the second ones because they can't release new content. Edited August 28, 2019 by bibmobello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844448 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, NekroArts said: I should be more clearer on this part: Seeing them doing it with Banshee, Excal, and Mag the first time will get me interested but after like 3rd and so-on times for each of them with a different weapon will mostly feel the same. Unless, what they used is different enough to watch. Example: Ivara with using a bow on tridolon "Ok, cool" Ivara using another bow on tridolon "That's the same thing" Ivara using Javlok on tridolon "Even though it's a different weapon, it still feels like same thing - over the top damage" Ivara using Javlok's Throw on tridolon "Ok, that got me interested" Now it depends on how creative the streamers are, or maybe you can be one. The tools and materials are available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Eluminary Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 There is a long line of people trying to become warframe partners as people leave they will be replaced with others. Nothing against those that are moving on but the partner program isn't having recruiting issues. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NekroArts Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 minute ago, 844448 said: Now it depends on how creative the streamers are, or maybe you can be one. The tools and materials are available Achieving over the top is not my thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DissentWomble Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Personally i think its due time some of those partners leave. Once you've done the basic video tutorials theres not many stuff they can do content on unless you follow Potato or Brozimes template of videos. Hope it gives someone else a better chance to shine while the burnt out ones take their time off. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loza03 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Out with the old and in with the new, I say. A lot of the older vets have grown used to the power levels like other players, and can't see how automated combat damages the game, whilst also complaining about its effects. "Not enough content" - if there weren't a bevy of options to effectively ignore content, this would be much less prevalent. Since well, content tends to last longer and be more engaging long term if you need to interact with it. Consider: almost every late 80's-early 90's game on the NES or Genesis or whatnot. Barely any content by todays standards, but they achieve long-term playability through solid core gameplay loops and challenging situations. "Too much grind/timegates." Near-automated, super-efficient grinds are to blame for that. The faster players can get stuff, the longer DE has to ensure it takes to prevent people blowing through it in an afternoon and invoking the above complaint. "There's no endgame/difficulty" Take a wild guess as to how being able to turn off enemy AI or Aggro might prevent that, or how designing around our range of insane powers might produce some... interesting design. Raethalius's got a lot of videos on this, but also has this video that sombrely mourns the times when Trinity could grant literal immortality to the whole team at the touch of a button along with other ludicrously overpowered press-4-to-win powers. I recognise their opinion could well have matured since then, but it's still an 'are you kidding me' thing to have. The things they complain about, and the power that they use directly relate to each other. We need partners who understand that engaging gameplay is more important than rewards or staying for infinite hours in survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhkretor Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 ... didn't we have something like this 2 days ago? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugintheCrow Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, Uhkretor said: ... didn't we have something like this 2 days ago? We will continue having something like this forever. Get accustomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bibmobello Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DissentWomble said: Personally i think its due time some of those partners leave. Once you've done the basic video tutorials theres not many stuff they can do content on unless you follow Potato or Brozimes template of videos. Hope it gives someone else a better chance to shine while the burnt out ones take their time off. Most good builds or techniques are kept secret for obvious reasons. The show only the same builds for masses, Ye! you deal more damage wow but i can kill thousand of them in less time!! Edited August 28, 2019 by bibmobello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Dex Xean Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 imo any content creators focus solely on playing one game is asking to get burned out unless it is pvp. At least with some pvp in some video games the competitiveness can keep you entertain beyond what a Pve story can do. The ones quiting imo they making a decision on "Do I want this to be my life?". What they really should do as a hobby is be a variety streamer with maybe one or two games they go back to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy505 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 its the most common solution that the forums gives to people who are bored of the game. go play another. and thats the life of a youtuber, if a game fails to create content then a youtuber won't be able to create content and must outsource to other games. as much as i want content creators to stay with warframe. i would advise them to move onto games that update more frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bibmobello Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, (XB1)Dex Xean said: imo any content creators focus solely on playing one game is asking to get burned out unless it is pvp. At least with some pvp in some video games the competitiveness can keep you entertain beyond what a Pve story can do. The ones quiting imo they making a decision on "Do I want this to be my life?". What they really should do as a hobby is be a variety streamer with maybe one or two games they go back to. I don't know.. The truth is that only few people can win the youtube lottery. First you have to choose the right game. Second you have to be very lucky. I don't know what kind of favors can have a partners but sometime i have seen millions of plat and billions of credits on their accounts. They must play 24/24. Edited August 28, 2019 by bibmobello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)dursereg Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Oh no, some clown bag who gets free stuff leaves the game. Bfd.there in it for monetary reasons nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 On 2019-08-24 at 2:37 PM, (PS4)sweatshawp said: I genuinely wanna know how people think the longevity of the game will be with core content creators and streamers putting warframe on the back burner or leaving the game. For reasons that many vets are complaining about (not all but a lot). Warframe partners "leave" on a semi-regular basis. Making revenue on Youtube is a hostile and topsy-turvy kind of job, and a content drought in the one game you make videos on means fewer views (and so less money) for them to keep their channel afloat. While a few do actually leave Warframe, realizing that their irregularity of new content doesn't always make for stable content creation of their, most return when updates hit and videos are more likely to get maximum views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Mono-Pop Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, bibmobello said: Most good builds or techniques are kept secret for obvious reasons. The show only the same builds for masses, Ye! you deal more damage wow but i can kill thousand of them in less time!! No, builds aren’t kept secret. Builds are numbers dude, you can’t keep optimal builds a secret, they literally create themselves. Edited August 28, 2019 by (PS4)Mono-Pop 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken-Biryani Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 4 hours ago, (PS4)thowed said: Never watched a streamer and can't even name any besides the ones I've seen mentioned in these forums. I found Warframe and spent money without them. Others can to. I found the game because of a streamer. And I am sure many out there did, and will continue to do so. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Almighty Deity Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Partners leaving is of very little concern to most. They're out to make money, and they usually cover everything. You simply put cannot easily make a career on a single PvE looter shooter. Even then YouTube has typically a 3 year golden period on content creators and most partners are close to the "decline" phase. If it were a mass exodus with no new faces it would mean more. Currently it's not. While I can imagine someone's favorite YouTuber on Warframe leaving might hurt their reason to play, I don't think many will outright quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sweatshawp Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 28 minutes ago, (XB1)Almighty Deity said: Partners leaving is of very little concern to most. They're out to make money, and they usually cover everything. You simply put cannot easily make a career on a single PvE looter shooter. Even then YouTube has typically a 3 year golden period on content creators and most partners are close to the "decline" phase. If it were a mass exodus with no new faces it would mean more. Currently it's not. While I can imagine someone's favorite YouTuber on Warframe leaving might hurt their reason to play, I don't think many will outright quit. Imo losing free publicity is a big thing and yes while I do agree that losing partners isn’t the end of warframe. It’s a sign that if the content creators and streamers don’t want to play somethings up! Look at how content creators are treated in our community as well. When they’ve tried to cover other content people demand warframe and threaten to unsubscribe or downvote their videos because it’s not warframe. Look at how people treated Flynn a MEMEBER of our community because he wanted to play something else. That’s terrible. And while they should play something else in terms of content for YouTube it should never be to a point where content creators feel alienated and disliked (for honestly no good reason) amongst their communities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)xBLADEPANTHERx Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 just because a few vets are leaving doesn't indicate that the game is dying, you too would get bored of something after 2K hours of it. besides I'm seeing loads of MR1 players who are taking their place, in other words people are still joining this community and playing this game, so this comment on WF dying is just an exaggeration, it is simply the circle of life taking its toll on the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sweatshawp Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, (XB1)xBLADEPANTHERx said: just because a few vets are leaving doesn't indicate that the game is dying, you too would get bored of something after 2K hours of it. besides I'm seeing loads of MR1 players who are taking their place, in other words people are still joining this community and playing this game, so this comment on WF dying is just an exaggeration, it is simply the circle of life taking its toll on the game. I didn’t say wf is dying but losing it’s content creators hurts publicly by a good amount Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)xBLADEPANTHERx Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Just now, (PS4)sweatshawp said: I didn’t say wf is dying but losing it’s content creators hurts publicly by a good amount what? a few people with about 100K subs, you do realise that there has been loads of marketing with this game (take the recent trailer for example), also someone has already mentioned this but big youtubers like Markiplier have actually been paid by DE to play their game, sure it seems forced but when you're guaranteed to advertise something to about 2 million people that is statistically more likely to encourage people to test it out. besides, a lot of people question the mental health of content creators like LifeOfRio who only ever complain, that's all some of them do is complain and it is exactly the reason why they leave, but if you are also choosing to leave as well then you're just being childish and jumping on the so-called 'bandwagon' 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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