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MadMattPrime

Can we disable or ban Excalibur Umbra from Index?

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On 2019-08-28 at 10:32 PM, MadMattPrime said:

Can we disable or block Excalibur Umbra from ALL INDEX Game modes, I am bloody tired of queuing into a lobbies where there are 3 Excalibur Umbra in the team and they just switch to the operators and let the Umbra AI do the job of killing. This is an AFK method of earning credits I'm surprised that DE hasn't realized this loop hole, its unfair for the person running around and collecting the points while the other players AFK farm.  

 I mostly solo. If you ever want to hang out for an afternoon, I can teach you how to solo high risk index to John Prodman for posters, and beyond. It's really all about playing smarter not harder. 

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The issue I have with this is they switch into operator..

And that is literally it. They don't collect points, they don't prevent enemies take points (if they're in a weird angle) and let them score, they don't buff the team or provide CC, they don't even mark the points, they LITERALLY just do the "pop into operator" action and that's it.

Yes, it's annoying. 

And I'm pretty sure some of these players are the same that cry about how boring the game is by literally abusing something to death.

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My friend just started the game and I gave him advise to quickly farm rhino and build it for pure index point collection. That solved his credits problem early. He just asks for a taxi and gladly runs hi index with umbra-mesa-etc teams where he doen't have to do the killings.

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Seems like the whining of the OP paid off, DE changed excalibur umbra and now it sits down and does nothing after it has no enemies to shoot for like 10 seconds.

Slight inconvenience which is easy to get around, but still sad to see DE change things just to make it annoying to use simply because some people have personal issues with certain warframe abilities.

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so umbra is AFK farm while wukong with a very OP weapon and no melee is not AFK?

i can use a weapon from fortuna without rivins and the clone killing things quickly.

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Good thing im not one of those ego tripping rhinos, i bank when i have about 15.. but i always play high stakes. I main rhino, and depending on the situation, i'm either iron skin, or a roar rhino with decent dmg bonus for about 60 seconds. I don't have the umbra set maxed though i'm using all three on my rhino. But i haven't maxed out the umbra mods yet, for where they're at now, they give my iron skin a little over 10.2k iron skin.. more than enough to do 2 rounds of index without any issues, or recasting. In index I'm usually running a iron skin rhino with either a ignus wraith using heat and magnetic... or the fulmin with magnetic and some type of other damage dealer so you don't over strip and take longer to kill an enemy. I don't like point bearers that hold over 50 and don't bank though, just prolongs the index run over a petty troll flex. I don't care about picking up points and banking them though. I can run it solo, but running with rando's just makes each index faster most of the time, cause the specters are just derp slow. But it hasn't stopped me from running solo, and most of the time I end up doing so, cause the 200K credits in about 5-6 minutes is still greatly faster than any defense mission using chroma's effigy, and the secura lecta for the extra credits upon the melee kills. I haven't used umbra for index, my OP just isn't that great on their tree to sit in invisible for long periods of time while babysitting my umbra specter, for me thats counter productive, and takes the fun i have from melting the enemies with my weapons and giggling like a school girl when they die nearly instantly from my kitgun. But if you're set up to run Umbra like that, by all means.. if you can kill faster than me.. I'll bank the points, if it makes the index go faster, I'm game for the runs. I wonder though... if you would complain if the entire party was wukong primes.. and they also didn't pick up the points. If it makes the index go greatly faster, pick the points up and bank them.. get the 200k, rinse and repeat.. or stay for the higher levels and a little more credits. I just don't see why the big fuss, it's not like you're actually picking up the points and running 2 miles to bank them.. just a couple flicks of the finger movements on a controller and bam, you've picked them up and banked them. makes the index much faster when you don't care about the "afk" mode you don't completely understand. Now what DE could do is if those that hold more than 30 points start getting a debuff that scales on each point accumulated after the 30 actual points, not the added bonus points you get by holding more to their abilities and weapon damage and run speed, forcing them to bank the points or loose damage and possibly fail. Would make more sense than to ban certain warframes from specific events just cause of their mechanics.

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