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Haha knew I should have come here first before wasting an hour on settings in game then nuking my liset to monochrome and storming out in disgust.

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Yeahh... don't know if it's intentional or not but, please revert these changes. All my prime frames now look like someone barfed yellow on them. The cool metallic glint is replaced by plastic fakeness and prismatic elements now glow greenish for some reason. I literally cannot look at this and have to repaint everything with a dark color to mask this... halp.

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i wouldent say they dumbing down the rendering, they just, dident seemed to have all of the changes in place and only applied to to some things insted of putting the whole new rendering engine in game.

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Maybe this is just happening to the old metals? Checking Gauss in the Orbiter, his metals look top tier. I'm quite confused:

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You can compare this to Steve's preview a month-ish ago on the upcoming Empyrean new rendering system:

Here's the preview he showed on our current system as well:

And this is an older video with Mag and Opticor:

There's also HUGE compression blocks on the Opticor, here's a screenshot I just took:

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You can see some big chunky pixels.

It's possible Prime gold needs a full pass, but some materials look great, and Excalibur's looking smooth. However without seeing the full upcoming system it's hard to give proper feedback, as there's a difference between the Empyrean and current system, even with the new metals.

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Posted (edited)

Reminds me of the Console "remaster" a year ago that has left all of our icons looking like 1998 pixelated S#&$.  Some icons, like Sigma and Octantis, are so messed up - the weapon has 2 "spikes" at the top of the shield, on console only one spike is drawn in the icon, while the other is cut off because it looks like somebody took all the icons on PS4 and just used photoshop to keep randomly adjusting the size, then ignored all the artifacts it created in the images along the way.  

Good to see more quality remasters on the way. 
 

Edited by (PS4)Zuzu_with_a_Z
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I just deleted an almost complete deco when I wanted to delete what was below because I thought it was highlighting the proper one...

DE please. PLEASE. TT_TT

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Posted (edited)

 

There have been many posts about this already. I seriously doubt DE will fix anything.

Everything looks like garbage. Do they not test their stuff before implementing?

More below...

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Before update:

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After hotfix 25.7.1:

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Before update:

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After hotfix 25.7.1:

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I just noticed that the graphics felt a bit weird and yes they are more brighter.

Look at this image I found on reddit. (Not mine credit goes to: https://www.reddit.com/user/iTriggz/)

Right one is a year old and the left one is the new one (took today). It's looking ugly. Did you guys also get this change?

The colors have also changed.

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I just noticed that the graphics felt a bit weird and yes they are more brighter.

Look at this image I found on reddit. (Not mine credit goes to: https://www.reddit.com/user/iTriggz/)

Right one is a year old and the left one is the new one (took today). It's looking ugly. Did you guys also get this change?

The colors have also changed.

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+1

While i think that it is helpfull in some situations, most of the time the amount of decorations in a room easily exceeds 300 and can go up to over 1000. With that many decorations it becomes impossible to distinguish them.

I tried to build to build a somewhat "natural" looking cave in a large garden and gave up after a few tries. It just becomes impossible to see where the decorations are actually located.

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adding my voice to the choir here, RIP prisma items (until this is fixed anyway)

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I have no idea what possessed DE to do this. Everything is hideous now. Literally the entire game looks like trash. I didn't like the new look from the comparison they showed in the update notes, but in game it's just dreadful.

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Man, the new metal texture in some weapons but mostly important in prime parts, looks like plastic, there's no shine or reflection. Just me who think that? Looks like it had a downgrade, please fix this.

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Even a cursory search would have shown you all the other threads where people are saying the same, re-assuring you that no, it's not just you.

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Posted (edited)

Before Update 25.7.0

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After Update 25.7.0

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Please bring the old colors back! The new metallic art must not interfere with the colors.

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Here, I'll make metal "ImPrOvEmEnT" feedback simple. They turned it all into a frankly unwanted lovechild between butter and plastic; and it's the latest in a long line of unwanted changes and glitched messes that have been rushed out throughout 2019.

Before Saint of Altra:

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Pretty, genuinely shiny, and what metal should be.

 

After Saint of Altra:

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A matte, platic-like, cheesy, buttery, flat-colored let-down. If this is an "improvement", it's an "improvement" in the same fashion as the changes to melee combat so far: by being a half-as-good and one-third-as-fun mess that hurts the heart to look at.

FIX THIS. For God's sake, people. Please patch the blasted metal back, at least. Please, just revert at least one bad change this year.

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If any doubt lingers this was a bad change, have a lovely look at the "metal"[citation needed] of my Prisma Liset:

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Does that look like an upgrade to you? Does that look in any way like an object of prestige? This looks like chunky, stale butter; not the genuinely stylish chrome-gold hybrid of my ship before.

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It's so horrible, it's more of a step back than forward.

Here was my perfectly fine looking frame before the update, taken a week ago.

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This is just a butchered job. I tried to salvage it a bit, even the syndiana was broke, when I logged in it had red instead of that nice yellow. it's just embarrassing honestly.

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Dear DE, We didn't just invest money into Tennogen Skins and Primes to have you make our fashion frames look like overexposed tacky McDonald's Toys.
My orbiter (Prisma Scimitar) looks like complete garbage in the loading screen and you removed the energy flow from it entirely, you have ruined that skin for me and i am upset.
The inside of my orbiter (all black with blue energy) Looks light grey and appears as if i'm running my monitor at the lowest gamma setting. As if you just handed some sloppy intern the keys to the kingdom. This is unacceptable. People paid real money for items and cosmetics that you just allowed an intern with a preference for low gamma and flea market gold chains turn into what i subjectively consider to be tacky and cheesy graphics design. Please, if you are going to utterly destroy all the cosmetics i have paid real money for, give me a TOGGLE switch similar to "Toggle Prime Details" I get that some people may like this change, and it actually looks okay on some of my frames that are primarily white with blue accents, but on any darker side of the spectrum these changes are hot garbage. I dumped like $100 into Tennogen for you to make everything i own look cheesy and tacky in a single update and i am BEGGING for a toggle switch for at the very least Warframes. If you want to make your tilesets looks cheesy that's out of my control, but you shouldn't be able to just wave a magic wand and turn your customers PAID Fashion Frames and Color Sets into cheesy tacky plastic-looking figurines more suited to be found in a kids meal toy. You should give your loyal fans who PAID FOR THESE ITEMS a legitimate option to revert back to the old system. This is just so disappointing.

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35 minutes ago, Maxim_M_Payne said:

If any doubt lingers this was a bad change, have a lovely look at the "metal"[citation needed] of my Prisma Liset:

inInJjY.jpg

Does that look like an upgrade to you? Does that look in any way like an object of prestige? This looks like chunky, stale butter; not the genuinely stylish chrome-gold hybrid of my ship before.

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The "Burger King Kids Meal" Color Pack now comes with the bonus Color Palette "Pokemon Faux Gold" 

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Ah, sry, still learning those forums things, good thing that im not the only one. ty.

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