(XBOX)The Neko Otaku Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 So the the long awaited nemesis system will be here soon (please this year) and from the tennocon demo we got interesting tidbit of info, kuva liches will absorb your warframe power and have abilities based on said power. So if they absorb your powers to define what type of enemy they'll be, what's going to be the worst type of kuva lich to face? Kuva lich with soundquake, just none stop stun lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyro1 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 A lick with Mesa Peacemaker or Ash Bladestorm, CC ain't that bad if you can get out of it, damage from Peacemaker or Bladestorm will be nigh impossible to get out of once its triggered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Dishinshoryuken Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Not looking forward to the lich system. It was one of the reasons I did not play War of Mordor. Those who enjoy it, cool. It's gonna be the same story every time a mode is introduced. Players will try it and say it is too hard or no challenge. Then they will say rewards are not worth it and the levels are too low. Then there is no content since they already did the liches so many times. The players are the worst combo of lich than anything the game will ever give us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 The only thing I'm kind of curious about is how it will work against titania razorwing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myscho Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Something with 99% dmg reduction and 900% dmg boost 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarow Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 How does the lich absorb abilities? Does it also copy weapons? Doesit copy the warframe that is currently equiped when figthing? Mods included for them? RIvens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Krism- Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 7 minutes ago, LSG501 said: The only thing I'm kind of curious about is how it will work against titania razorwing.... The only thing I'm curious about is how they will work exactly The Lich in the demo was killed by a Volt, but I don't remember if it's only the power we killed it with or the whole set, & if they powers will work exactly like on our frames or will differ in some way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Xenox_Ilz-ot said: The only thing I'm curious about is how they will work exactly The Lich in the demo was killed by a Volt, but I don't remember if it's only the power we killed it with or the whole set, & if they powers will work exactly like on our frames or will differ in some way demo was just one of it's abilities (1st ability iirc) and a 'helmet' on it's shoulder. It will likely gain others the more times it's killed...although not sure how it would work if you keep using the same frame all the time.... Edited September 29, 2019 by LSG501 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloudyvisage Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 It didn't seem like it was necessarily the individual power, perhaps there are categories of powers that they will go towards? As an example, being killed by an exalted weapon would push them down the route of using void based weaponry personally, forgoing the normal Grineer weaponry. Getting killed by an elementally focused ability will cause it to go down the path of whatever element it was, a Lich killed by Saryn spores would have an incredibly corrosive setup, perhaps vents of corrosive gas all over the ship and the Lich itself would have vents on it constantly outputting corrosive gases damaging and reducing your armor. It would be interesting if the different Liches actually drop different things so there would become a meta of developing Liches in different directions. Or even ways of powering the Liches up intentionally. There should probably be a way to depower the Liches in case they become too much for newer players, like missions around weakening them. I would quite like that as it would narrow down the Liches from being unique to EVERY single power, which seems... Extreme, to there still being a large variation of Liches but with less of a monumental focus on variety, hopefully transferring some of that saved effort into making the Liches, their bases and their fights more interesting overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toppien Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 in times like this im glad im a zephyr main, cuz i know my warframe has many weaknesses XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyers_of_facade Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Well, I main mirage, so I am not too worried I can deal a megaton more damage than what I can absorb, so long I shoot first, I will win the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I fully except the "copied" abilities to function more like the conclave version of the ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aesthier Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) Defeat it with an Operator Mote amp. Edited September 29, 2019 by Aesthier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackHargreav Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I can't remember how exactly the system works. If the kuva lich copies every ability that we use in the fight then Loki's powers would be the most annoying to deal with. And yeah, Mesa's Peace Maker and Ash's everything would be a nightmare to deal with too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SolarPhantom82 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I'm a valkyr main. We just going to claw eachother to death. But no ones dieing .. lololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etan-gK Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I figure any power that throws your own damage back, like trinitys link, will be a problem, doesn't matter how much damage you can deal when it's all being redirected back in your face though, I do wonder, if you link to them, and they link to you, who gets the damage? or how about octavia, what kind of crazy beats will the nemesis have I wonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so_many_watermelons Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 I imagine it wouldn't be a straight up "abilities you killed this Lich with will be copied from you next time you face them". Probably more like, depending on the Warframe that killed them, they'll have a modified moveset based on all of that frame's abilities, not specific abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)ToadBlue Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 3 hours ago, Cloudyvisage said: It didn't seem like it was necessarily the individual power, perhaps there are categories of powers that they will go towards? As an example, being killed by an exalted weapon would push them down the route of using void based weaponry personally, forgoing the normal Grineer weaponry. Getting killed by an elementally focused ability will cause it to go down the path of whatever element it was, a Lich killed by Saryn spores would have an incredibly corrosive setup, perhaps vents of corrosive gas all over the ship and the Lich itself would have vents on it constantly outputting corrosive gases damaging and reducing your armor. It would be interesting if the different Liches actually drop different things so there would become a meta of developing Liches in different directions. Or even ways of powering the Liches up intentionally. There should probably be a way to depower the Liches in case they become too much for newer players, like missions around weakening them. I would quite like that as it would narrow down the Liches from being unique to EVERY single power, which seems... Extreme, to there still being a large variation of Liches but with less of a monumental focus on variety, hopefully transferring some of that saved effort into making the Liches, their bases and their fights more interesting overall. This sounds like the most functional and most enjoyable way to play it out, so I hope you're right. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrobotto67 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I don't have the exact answer but ... what would happen if i kill the enemy with Hysteria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 18 minutes ago, mrrobotto67 said: I don't have the exact answer but ... what would happen if i kill the enemy with Hysteria? The Lich would get hysterical every time they see you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atsia Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 We saw from the demo that lichs aren't gonna be getting exact copies of the ability that killed them. The one they fight had been killed by Volt, but was it spamming electricity at you? No, out had developed tech powers in being able to direct ship power into himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Sk0rp1on Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I plan on making the most overpowered Kuva Lich imaginable. Kill It with Peacemakers, Bladestorm, Rhino Stomp, Mirages Discoball and every exhaled qeapon I can get my hands on. I want to make the most impossible boss ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
War.Machine.9 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Inaros Devour. Guy just slowly eats you and is invulnerable the whole time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge_Tarmus Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 On 2019-09-29 at 8:43 PM, (XB1)The Neko Otaku said: So the the long awaited nemesis system will be here soon (please this year) and from the tennocon demo we got interesting tidbit of info, kuva liches will absorb your warframe power and have abilities based on said power. So if they absorb your powers to define what type of enemy they'll be, what's going to be the worst type of kuva lich to face? Kuva lich with soundquake, just none stop stun lock Basically, any lich with an exalted weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexsing Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 I am playing Nyx almost exclusively. So I don't think you can really mind control a Tenno. But Psychic bolts could really put a dampner on anyone considdering it strips armor, Auras and Buffs. Otherwise absorb would be annoying. Personally I think id be worried about anything Nidus can dish out. Or Inaros. I know this might not be an issue but Id not be keen getting hit with anything sent out by Wisp either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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