(PSN)drollive96 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 It just felt much better to me to be able to instantly switch from gun to blade at the press of a button, it just felt more fluid and gave me an actual reason to use the stances, before, I used quick melee 100% of the time, because i HATED being locked in melee mode unable to fire my gun, if i wanted to go back to firing my gun i would have to press another button,(It doesn't seem like much but in a fast paced game subtle things Can matter) it felt like an extra unnecessary step to hold down a button to wait for a 1 second animation just to use a stance that doesn't give you ANY major benefit (Technically there's a third step if you want to fire your gun again ) . We should be able to toggle the instant switching in the options menu and choose how we want to use our melee. Idc if i'm the only who likes melee 2.99999. i like it the way it is now and i dont want to be forced to go back to the way it was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 The instant switching is going to remain, however now by holding the Swap button you can "lock" yourself into melee for manual blocking. Just don't hold the swap button and you'll still have the same combat style. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)drollive96 Posted October 19, 2019 Author Share Posted October 19, 2019 Just now, Aldain said: The instant switching is going to remain, however now by holding the Swap button you can "lock" yourself into melee for manual blocking. Just don't hold the swap button and you'll still have the same combat style. Oh so the fire button will still instantly switch back to your gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 minute ago, (PS4)drollive96 said: Oh so the fire button will still instantly switch back to your gun? Yep, they are introducing the locked mode for people who want dedicated blocking and pure melee action. The fluid nature for those who wish to use both interchangeably still remains but now with the option to focus on melee as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubewano Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, (PS4)drollive96 said: Oh so the fire button will still instantly switch back to your gun? Yes, the way melee works now will remain the same, the holding to swap function is specifically for a melee only mode where you can use blocks and the like without returning to gunplay and that has to be toggled back off to go back to gun and sword we have presently. Edited October 19, 2019 by Cubewano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raqiya Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 Using a RMB combo feels awful especially when you want to channel at the same time since holding RMB brings up your weapon and kicks you out of melee mode. Aim gliding was also a pain, if you wanted to aim glide through a tileset without weapon zoom goodluck. I hate the quick melee system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8faiNt Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 sure changing the insta blocks cool and all but why dont they wanna give us quick melee back I dont really understand why quick melee is so 'bad' on their perspective that they removed it completly except few melee weapons which prob will be '' FIXED '' with the full release of the 3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnossosTNC Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I like the instant melee, especially with my Saryn. Before, I had to decide between melee and gun. Now it's Spore, hack and slash, pop a Nullifier with my Synapse, go back to hacking and slashing. The auto-block, not so much. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhekemi Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 22 minutes ago, (PS4)drollive96 said: Snip I was about to post on the main feedback thread to ask why we couldn't have both. There are situations where I would like to use one or the other, and after the last rework, I the new style quickly became second nature (after years of doing it manually). 19 minutes ago, Aldain said: The instant switching is going to remain, however now by holding the Swap button you can "lock" yourself into melee for manual blocking. Just don't hold the swap button and you'll still have the same combat style. Hey, thanks. I didn't understand this when I read it, Bear's post could have been much clearer (that both options would remain). That and the removal of auto-blocking were my main gripes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dishonored Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) instant melee switching really good on redeemer prime with bullet dance but i still miss quick melee on polearm, right now polearm feels a little bit clunky for me Edited October 20, 2019 by .OwOkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Sk0rp1on Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 1 hour ago, (PS4)drollive96 said: It just felt much better to me to be able to instantly switch from gun to blade at the press of a button, it just felt more fluid and gave me an actual reason to use the stances, before, I used quick melee 100% of the time, because i HATED being locked in melee mode unable to fire my gun, if i wanted to go back to firing my gun i would have to press another button,(It doesn't seem like much but in a fast paced game subtle things Can matter) it felt like an extra unnecessary step to hold down a button to wait for a 1 second animation just to use a stance that doesn't give you ANY major benefit (Technically there's a third step if you want to fire your gun again ) . We should be able to toggle the instant switching in the options menu and choose how we want to use our melee. Idc if i'm the only who likes melee 2.99999. i like it the way it is now and i dont want to be forced to go back to the way it was Nah, I loved the melee changes, but ironically the quick melee change made me appreciate melee even more so I can see why people were mad at not having melee only. It’s still not my style, but I’m glad that both systems are working in parallel. looking forward to the new changes as well. I’m totally on board for everything I’m here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BL4CKN0ISE Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 (edited) It was just one step forward, two steps back for some of us. The instant switching is nice, but the only real benefit if you were already into melee was how well it synergized with CO. The thing is, CO was already strong enough with just using quick melee. So in a sense, many of us always had instant switching. The new changes just meant we couldn't block when we wanted, sometimes we would block when we didn't want, and it was really hard to just play melee only when you had other weapons equipped. Basically it was a bit worse than it was before the changes for some players. I think the new update will be a good compromise for both types of players. I can't wait! Edited October 20, 2019 by BL4CKN0ISE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathDweller Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 Basically it's the old system but instead of quick melee attack the weapon does only combo moves.1 year doing 360 turns just to end up removing quick melee and channeling.At this point i don't even care what they're doing, the guy on the wheel these 2 last years needs replacing cause he/she doesn't know what to do anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I didn't like the phase 1 changes for a ton of reasons but chief among them was the loss of manual blocking, the addition of auto blocking and not being allowed, at least the option of toggling this style of play. Now they have added a manual blocking option that doesn't sound fluid at all and I have heard nothing regarding the auto blocking setup being amended given how intrusive it can be. It would have been simpler to just add a toggle to begin with and that remains the best route for most players preferences imo...It's also the route DE refuses to consider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Dex Xean Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I liked both so Im fine with both Ill probably still use instant switching though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimimoto Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 4 hours ago, (PS4)drollive96 said: i like it the way it is now and i dont want to be forced to go back to the way it was Did ya pay attention when they showed off how it's going to work now, because nothing its changing for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelous_A Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I still think a simple separate block button would be the best way to implement it instead of a dedicated melee mode. When you want to block you just..block instead of going through all the mode switch again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteMarker Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 9 hours ago, Raqiya said: Using a RMB combo feels awful especially when you want to channel at the same time This problem will go away, because channeling get's removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)joehan1287 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 vor 23 Minuten schrieb Marvelous_A: I still think a simple separate block button would be the best way to implement it instead of a dedicated melee mode. When you want to block you just..block instead of going through all the mode switch again. This also has to work on controllers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talinthis Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 What about valkyr does anyone know? Sucks to die because I aim glide and get destroyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackHargreav Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 I like both systems. Quickly switching from primary to melee makes the combat nice and fluid but the melee mode we had was more convenient if you wanted to use combos with LMB. I'm glad they will keep both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zebiko Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 What's the point of this thread? They stated that both are in the game. Quick press to quick switch and long press to lock into melee mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodwill Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 2 hours ago, (XB1)TyeGoo said: Unpopular opinion: I actually enjoyed auto blocking, was literally free DR which was especially nice in high lvl missions. But oh well Unpopular opinion: I actually don't enjoy auto blocking. But oh well Snark aside, I see where you are coming from but for me, I much prefer player control over auto-pilot. If I wanted to play a game with auto-pilot I'd play mobile games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 16 hours ago, Aldain said: Yep, they are introducing the locked mode for people who want dedicated blocking and pure melee action. The fluid nature for those who wish to use both interchangeably still remains but now with the option to focus on melee as well. As always, any time DE goes with “choice”, the Warframe brand gets stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CrazyBeaTzu Posted October 20, 2019 Share Posted October 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Zebiko said: What's the point of this thread? They stated that both are in the game. Quick press to quick switch and long press to lock into melee Most people are either too cool, too busy, or too impatient to actually read. Look at all the "hurr durr what's gonna happen to my...." threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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