S.Dust Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) They rarely show up in derilects for you to scan them, you can't find them anywhere else, when you scan one it's no guaranteed to give you the DNA, and if you choose to bite the bullet and just by kavat DNA it cost 50 plat for all ten when 1 kurbrow egg only cost 10 plat. Why is it so much harder to get a kavat than it is to get a kubrow? This just came to notice since I was trying to get a kavat so I can let it get infected when the new one comes out. Honestly the process is just annoying not because it's tedious but because they literally only have one location where we can find them, while its the same for kubrows the odds of getting a kubrow egg seem so much higher I have 3 right now with no intention of using them. Edited October 21, 2019 by S.Dust 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CdG-Zilchy Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) There's usually a set 2 spawns of at least 2 Kavats per spawn (increases with amount of players) per derelict. Chances are you're killing them without seeing them (since they're cloaked at first) or you're not searching thoroughly cos the derelicts are quite large. Try using a max range, min pwr str Nezha and spam your 4 to find them. The spears will impale them but not kill, making them easy to scan. Edited October 21, 2019 by Zilchy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoryuu Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I use Equinox and put everything to sleep lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CdG-Zilchy Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Just now, Shoryuu said: I use Equinox and put everything to sleep lol Do they uncloak when you do that? The reason I used Nezha was for the speed bonus cos when I was operator fashibf through the derelicts I was accidentally killing them with focus powers. In any case since more spawn with player increase it's best to do it in a group while doing vault runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_The_F00l Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I noticed a decent amount of them during the nightwave boss fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.Dust Posted October 21, 2019 Author Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Zilchy said: There's usually a set 2 spawns of at least 2 Kavats per spawn (increases with amount of players) per derelict. Chances are you're killing them without seeing them (since they're cloaked at first) or you're not searching thoroughly cos the derelicts are quite large. Try using a max range, min pwr str Nezha and spam your 4 to find them. The spears will impale them but not kill, making them easy to scan. Scans don't have a 100 percent chance of giving dna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CrazyBeaTzu Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) When I did it, there were 3 to 5 or 6 at times. I'm sorry I cant remember which derelict I was on. It was probably a capture or edit: not assasinate, the one where you kill a lot: something easy to finish so you just concentrate on finding them. They're usually in a group or near each other. Sleep them with equinox or use the kinetic siphons. It's a farm, you wont get a drop every time. I was doing it for a couple hrs, got annoyed, took a break and went back to it. Not an easy process, such is mmo life Edited October 21, 2019 by (PS4)CrazyBeaTzu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhkretor Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Last derelict I've stepped into had 20 Kavats in it... ... RNG at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CdG-Zilchy Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, S.Dust said: Scans don't have a 100 percent chance of giving dna. True. Just scan more of em. Actually the absolute best way is to find someone who hasn't sands of Inaros cos about 50 spawn in that quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Pattberg Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Quick tip. Take Ballistica Prime along with you. Scan as per normal, then kill with ballistica, then scan the ghost variant as well (but be quick about the ghost scans). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diangelius Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, (XB1)Pattberg said: Quick tip. Take Ballistica Prime along with you. Scan as per normal, then kill with ballistica, then scan the ghost variant as well (but be quick about the ghost scans). Didn't know that we could even scan ghosts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoryuu Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Zilchy said: Do they uncloak when you do that? The reason I used Nezha was for the speed bonus cos when I was operator fashibf through the derelicts I was accidentally killing them with focus powers. In any case since more spawn with player increase it's best to do it in a group while doing vault runs. Nah they don't uncloak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoryuu Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Diangelius said: Didn't know that we could even scan ghosts. yes you can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirTobe Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Makes sense because Kavats are actually useful for something 😄 They are always present somewhere in Derelict. I mostly see them in the cross section tiles or the sewer tile. But as mentioned above, you can get a ton of scans at a point in the Sands Of Inaros quest. Also, scans are affected by resource booster. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBorris Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I don't see anything inherently wrong with Kavats being a bit harder to get than Kubrows, there should be some variety in how long things take to grind. And the grind for Kavats isn't unreasonably long, just a bit tedious. And to that end farming for Kubrow eggs isn't the most engaging experience either. I mean, if farming for a Kubrow took ten minutes and farming for a Kavat took ten hours there would be a problem. But the difference is fair in my opinion. I think there is an argument that can be made for making the farm for Kavats and Kubrows a bit more engaging, but the time it takes to grind them is fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Viveeeh Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Recruit for a DNA hunting squad if you can, because as mentioned above, their numbers really do increase with each squad member. Don't forget to buy the cross-matrix widget for your synthesis scanner from Simaris! I've heard before that using Nezha's 4 won't give you any DNA due to a bug, I'm not sure if it's fixed yet, so use with caution. Kavats are really a pain to farm, you're not alone... They were released later on, so maybe that's why, they like to put new stuff behind a grind wall. Either to keep you playing, or make you buy the stuff with plats. Personally I don't mind the kavat grind, I like the kind of games that make me look for needles in a haystack. But for you I suggest not to incubate that kavat until the update drops, there may be a tiny chance it matters if you're infecting a Smeeta or an Adarza (no source for this, haven't heard anywhere, I just tend to assume everything can go wrong will go wrong). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CdG-Zilchy Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Shoryuu said: Nah they don't uncloak I prefer Nezha in that case. The spears immobilize them and hold them uncloaked while you scan them. Just cast in each room with max range and min pwr str. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneYenShort Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 14 hours ago, S.Dust said: They rarely show up in derilects for you to scan them, you can't find them anywhere else, when you scan one it's no guaranteed to give you the DNA, and if you choose to bite the bullet and just by kavat DNA it cost 50 plat for all ten when 1 kurbrow egg only cost 10 plat. I have no answer only a guess. It is another time sink delay created by DE that never got adjusted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)chubbslawson Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 I used to do the alerts for them but you know what happened there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diavoros Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 Kavats are harder to get because they are better than kubrows, simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_of_76 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, Zilchy said: There's usually a set 2 spawns of at least 2 Kavats per spawn (increases with amount of players) per derelict. Chances are you're killing them without seeing them (since they're cloaked at first) or you're not searching thoroughly cos the derelicts are quite large. Try using a max range, min pwr str Nezha and spam your 4 to find them. The spears will impale them but not kill, making them easy to scan. I use limbo and stay in the rift but the searching is still manual Helios can help though also ore gaze might be good for this. (it scans all targets in an area) Edited October 21, 2019 by spirit_of_76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_of_76 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, (PS4)chubbslawson said: I used to do the alerts for them but you know what happened there they buffed the dna drop rate so scanning them is no longer pointless but the RNG for a good looking one is insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Viveeeh Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 22 minutes ago, spirit_of_76 said: I use limbo and stay in the rift but the searching is still manual Helios can help though also ore gaze might be good for this. (it scans all targets in an area) What's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spirit_of_76 Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 3 hours ago, (PS4)Viveeeh said: What's that? Ore gaze is an augment for atlas' 3 and it scans all petrified targets. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CdG-Zilchy Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 hours ago, spirit_of_76 said: I use limbo and stay in the rift but the searching is still manual Helios can help though also ore gaze might be good for this. (it scans all targets in an area) Trust me try Nezha. It removes the manual searching, just press 4 in each room with max range and no pwr str so that you don't kill it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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