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Dev Workshop - Kuva Lich Changes Coming Soon™

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On 2019-11-11 at 10:28 PM, [DE]Bear said:
  • RECYCLE YOUR REQUIEM - 4 Defiled Requiem Mods can now be Transmuted into a random, fully charged, Requiem Mod. This gives them some additional use, as well as helping you clean up your inventory.
  • MORE TO COME - We are looking at other ways in which we can make the Kuva Lich system more rewarding and unique, although there is still a lot of internal discussion surrounding the ‘hows’ while maintaining the design intent. More on this as it is finalized.

"RECYCLE YOUR REQUIEM" - DE, Please no more RNG and loot boxes! Learn from how EA wrecked game with loot box system and move on.

"MORE TO COME" - Please remove ultra-rare random spawns of converted liches and make them useful with summon on-demand. So this would make them wanted gameply element instead of just farming their weapons. Also followers need tactical command options instead of just follow/hold only for really long time.

And the whole system with getting kuva lich to converting/killing them need rework. Why players need to go such great lengths of farming murmur for just sticking knife in lich head? It should be straight forward challenging and interesting gameplay in first place instead.

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Just let us dump these things already. It is absolutely zero fun to grind out an entire Kuva Lich knowing I am not going to get anything out of it. I don't need a 4th Kuva Kraken and I have been unsuccessful in trading the 2 I keep spamming into trade chat and Discord. 

I have had 9 Kuva Liches and I have 5 Kuva weapons, out of a possible 13. How is that math even possible? 

 

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ignoring how grindy it is. The current lich missions isn't fun to play the majority of the missions i have to solo. The mission system might have been fine in the 1st few week when everyone was killing liches but now its mostly empty

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if you could do Liches and for example fissures in one go it would be okay, but to grind them on their own... I've done 29 Kuva Liches and haven't gotten a single Ephemera. I think I'm done with them.

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You know what would be nice? If ALL Grineer troops dropped murmers upon mercy-killing, regardless of mission type - instead of further compartmentalizing the game by requiring specific missions to collect murmers and thereby ensuring the mode will be forgotten unless specifically farming. This should at the very least be true in Lich-controlled areas.

This could later apply to the other factions when they get a Lich equivalent, and Invasion missions could reward bonus murmers from the faction you're working for, allowing the potential to farm two faction murmers at once - giving Invasions added usefulness and relevance.

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Here's a simple solution to the RNG Elemental Bonus that completely bypasses the worthless RNG mechanic entirely: Tie the elemental bonus stat to Lich Levels. It'll give Lich Levels a defined existence outside of increased mission difficulty.

Another suggestion is to turn Converted Liches into Companions with varying degrees of customizations.

Don't leave the Lich system as it is until you add the Corpus variant, address the issues in the here & now! Show the community that you care about our feedback, that you won't put it on the back-burner while prioritizing "new" stuff.

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Why not making the KUVA lich system connected to KUVA? Make it that it's only in Kuva Fortress. Possibly with Larva spawning in Kuva Survival only. And add 3rd option for defeated Lich - Syphon Kuva - to make it a way of farming kuva outside of normal Kuva missions. This would possibly solve 3 things - newbies starting Lich without knowing the difficulty, lack of players doing the Lich nodes (as all would do it on Kuva Fortress) and a reason to do Lich other then weapon. At top of that it would make sense that the Kuva Lich would be there and have an high level greneer army.

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