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Check you data base on these days after Boar Prime came out, how many player with Boar prime and use it play lvl 100-200 alert missions.

 

 

And you know that this thing is just a gd look rubbish, I love it's skin details, but it totally can't be a choice for a real hard gameplay.

Posted (edited)

*ahem*This is true for just about every weapon that is AP/A-Ignore, wait for the damage rework. That said I still fully appreciate the Boar Prime right now, not as much as my Swraith but that's a given. >:3 Then again I still take my Vipers out on t3 defenses.

 

It's a nice weapon and I disagree with your sentiment.

Edited by un1337ninj4
Posted

*ahem*This is true for just about every weapon that is AP/A-Ignore, wait for the damage rework. That said I still fully appreciate the Boar Prime right now, not as much as my Swraith but that's a given. >:3 Then again I still take my Vipers out on t3 defenses.

 

It's a nice weapon and I disagree with your sentiment.

It's not about AP/A-Ignore or not, suck is suck, Accurate, DPS, DPH, Ammo effect all suck---totally at the "rubbish zone"

Even vipers have dps adv.

But the Boar Prime? crap

Posted

well lets look at simple boar stats

 

Weapon Type Primary
Trigger Type Auto
Projectile Speed Hit-Scan
Damage Type Bullet
Damage 96 (12 x8 pellets)
Crit Damage 150%
Firing Rate 5 shots/sec
Accuracy 5
Clip 10 rounds/clip
Reload Time 2.3s
Polarities None

boar prime

Weapon Type Primary
Damage Type Bullet
Damage 72.0 (12.0 x6 Pellets)
Crit Damage 200%
Firing Rate 5.8 shots/sec
Accuracy 5
Clip 15 rounds/clip
Reload Time 2.3s
Polarities None
Posted

Boar prime is strong but the critical mods for shotguns sucks hard thats why unlike the soma his stats are REALLY BAD but scales soo good with the rifle critical mods.

Posted (edited)

Boar prime is strong but the critical mods for shotguns sucks hard thats why unlike the soma his stats are REALLY BAD but scales soo good with the rifle critical mods.

Accurate<----it make Boar super suck, more unaccurate than the hand cannon prime if it auto fire more than 3 shots

Edited by Cary2010haha
Posted

250px-WraithStrun.png

 

Huehuehuehuehue.

 

Seriously though, of course the Boar Prime is going to suck. Just like Latron Prime. Just like Braton Prime. If the core weapon isn't viable in the long run, you can bet a significant amount of money on that the Prime version won't be either.

Posted

250px-WraithStrun.png

 

Huehuehuehuehue.

 

Seriously though, of course the Boar Prime is going to suck. Just like Latron Prime. Just like Braton Prime. If the core weapon isn't viable in the long run, you can bet a significant amount of money on that the Prime version won't be either.

But the Braton prime is sexy.

Why would I want to play a mission with a good weapon when I can use a sexy one.

Posted

250px-WraithStrun.png

 

Huehuehuehuehue.

 

Seriously though, of course the Boar Prime is going to suck. Just like Latron Prime. Just like Braton Prime. If the core weapon isn't viable in the long run, you can bet a significant amount of money on that the Prime version won't be either.

Braton Prime is actually pretty good.

Posted

But the Braton prime is sexy.

Why would I want to play a mission with a good weapon when I can use a sexy one.

 

 

That is it. So is the Boar Prime (still trying to get the parts, argh!). Just saying that you can't expect the Prime version of a "weak" weapon to be anything but.

Posted

That is it. So is the Boar Prime (still trying to get the parts, argh!). Just saying that you can't expect the Prime version of a "weak" weapon to be anything but.

True. I was actually very interested in getting the Braton prime, but as I'm moving into harder mission I've sort of gone off it. Plus I've learned that most primes I've researched are only better in little ways. Braton prime having a better base damage and bigger clip compared to the braton. Not really worth it. So yes, you're very correct.

Posted

Its a great weapon, just like boar, and stop comparing it to strun w, its like comparing snipertron vandal to paris prime, its the same category but it has so much differences

Posted

Its a great weapon, just like boar, and stop comparing it to strun w, its like comparing snipertron vandal to paris prime, its the same category but it has so much differences

 

But the Boar isn't only inferior to the Strun Wraith. I made that post in jest. Just about every other Shotgun beats it.

Posted

It's a slight upgrade of the original version.

 

It's still very competitive with other shotguns

like Sobek for instance: same trigger, faster reload but with less clip size, less damage but more fire rate and better scaling (crit+crit damage).

And Sobek is very close to the Hek dps wise, so...

 

Don't take the Strun Wraith into account when comparing, it's an aberration of balance anyway.

 

Otherwise, pretty solid shotgun, looks cool, and a good variety of possible builds.

A polarity slot would have been nice though

 

One of the few well balanced Primes, if not the only one.

Posted (edited)

I think people are forgetting that the Boar just recently received a pellet count buff. The original does 96 damage now.

 

But not Boar Prime lolwut.

The original Boar if IIRC did only 75 damage.

Edited by fatpig84
Posted

True. I was actually very interested in getting the Braton prime, but as I'm moving into harder mission I've sort of gone off it. Plus I've learned that most primes I've researched are only better in little ways. Braton prime having a better base damage and bigger clip compared to the braton. Not really worth it. So yes, you're very correct.

 

Paris Prime disagrees. :P

 

But what you said makes some sense. The only prime weapon which can go all the way to late game is probably only the Paris and Orthos. Others are sadly, mostly ornamental.

 

On the subject, I don't think Boar Prime is that bad. Judging from the stats, I think it is comparable and probably be superior over the Sobek. Which is pretty much the best shotgun before Strun Wraith.

Posted

I'll just leave this here:

Lets do a numerical comparison.

They're both crit-based guns so I'll be using the following build:

  • Accelerated Blast
  • Blaze
  • Blunderbuss
  • Flechette
  • Hell's Chamber
  • Point Blank
  • Ravage
  • Shotgun Spazz
Now to the meat:

Strun Wraith

DPS :: 15982.155

Burst DPS :: 34711.242

Full Data:

Name :: Strun Wraith

Magazine Size :: 8

Total Ammo :: 128

Crit Chance :: 38%

Crit Damage Multiplier :: 288%

Fire Rate :: 6.25 rounds per second

Reload Time :: 1.5 seconds

Damage :: 3239.5

Damage Shields :: 3239.5

Damage Corpus :: 3239.5

Damage Grineer :: 4859.25

Damage Infested :: 3866.5

Crit Damage :: 9329.76

Crit Damage to Shields :: 9329.76

Crit Damage to Corpus :: 9329.76

Crit Damage to Grineer :: 13994.64

Crit Damage to Infested :: 11135.52

Average Damage :: 5553.799

Average Damage to Shields :: 5553.799

Average Damage to Corpus :: 5553.799

Average Damage to Grineer :: 8330.698

Average Damage to Infested :: 6628.728

Damage per Mag :: 44430.39

Damage per Mag to Shields :: 44430.39

Damage per Mag to Corpus :: 44430.39

Damage per Mag to Grineer :: 66645.586

Damage per Mag to Infested :: 53029.821

DPS :: 15982.155

DPS to Shields :: 15982.155

DPS to Corpus :: 15982.155

DPS to Grineer :: 23973.232

DPS to Infested :: 19075.475

Burst DPS :: 34711.242

Burst DPS to Shields :: 34711.242

Burst DPS to Corpus :: 34711.242

Burst DPS to Grineer :: 52066.864

Burst DPS to Infested :: 41429.548

Boar Prime

DPS :: 11293.095

Burst DPS :: 36401.409

Full Data:

Name :: Boar Prime

Magazine Size :: 15

Total Ammo :: 135

Crit Chance :: 47.5%

Crit Damage Multiplier :: 320%

Fire Rate :: 14.5 rounds per second

Reload Time :: 2.3 seconds

Damage :: 1227.6

Damage Shields :: 1227.6

Damage Corpus :: 1227.6

Damage Grineer :: 1841.4

Damage Infested :: 1465.2

Crit Damage :: 3928.32

Crit Damage to Shields :: 3928.32

Crit Damage to Corpus :: 3928.32

Crit Damage to Grineer :: 5892.48

Crit Damage to Infested :: 4688.64

Average Damage :: 2510.442

Average Damage to Shields :: 2510.442

Average Damage to Corpus :: 2510.442

Average Damage to Grineer :: 3765.663

Average Damage to Infested :: 2996.334

Damage per Mag :: 37656.63

Damage per Mag to Shields :: 37656.63

Damage per Mag to Corpus :: 37656.63

Damage per Mag to Grineer :: 56484.945

Damage per Mag to Infested :: 44945.01

DPS :: 11293.095

DPS to Shields :: 11293.095

DPS to Corpus :: 11293.095

DPS to Grineer :: 16939.642

DPS to Infested :: 13478.855

Burst DPS :: 36401.409

Burst DPS to Shields :: 36401.409

Burst DPS to Corpus :: 36401.409

Burst DPS to Grineer :: 54602.114

Burst DPS to Infested :: 43446.843

As you can see they aren't that far off, and the Boar Prime actually has better burst DPS.

Note: if you think it's weak try building it for crit.

Posted

I'll just leave this here:

Note: if you think it's weak try building it for crit.

numbers are nothing, it sucks, Accurate isn't 5 as the number tells, just like the new stinger, iT never hit an enemies over 10M in full auto, so even it do 9999999DPS STILL a RUBBISH

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