Nikana zaw (Sepfahn) bugs

[killer13tibor]

Firstly i would like to say that there are many problems with the models of nikana zaw on both default and skin applied have the same problems which are present no matter what which also have been present in the game for a long time now (All these bugs happen to any skin of the nikana zaw i can put on a tennogen, normal or deluxe skin on my nikana zaw but all of these bugs will still persist.)

https://imgur.com/a/6Ck3rCQ (Added more screenshots/updated 16.8.2020) a collection of images that show different bugs that happen on the nikana zaw.

NOTE: I should put this here that after a lot of testing and using the nikana zaw in general i have come to believe that the main problem for everything that is bugged about the nikana zaw is related or caused by its bugged sheath/scabbard which "clips" thrue the blade dosent color properly for some reason has its own identical copy of the sugatara your using and basically just dosent work correctly.

Unlike the other nikanas you cannot change the scabbard colors of the nikana zaw by changing the attachments colors separately to the hilt and blade since the main colors change the entire nikana colors and attachments only change the sugatara. (New Screenshots show this problem by comparing putting the same skin and colors on nikana prime and the zaw nikana.)

There are numerous bugs related to "cliping" of the scabbard and blade and disappearing scabbard and or improper wielding all shown the imgur album that i linked above.
Also when extracting while using/wielding the nikana zaw you will dual wielding your scabbard and sword in both hands as the cutscene of you entering your Landing craft plays and this sometimes happens in combat recently it happened after i stealth killed a enemy and when i started using my secondary i had the scabbard and the blade on top of my hands while using my pistol. (Images of this are provided in the imgur album.)

EDIT: I've added some more screenshots to the imgur album it shows me using the same look on both the zaw nikana and nikana prime same colors same skin but very different results. Putting colors on a nikana zaw is like putting those same colors on attachments as well without actually doing so and any colors you do put in attachments only affect the sugatara unlike all other nikanas.

EDIT: I also found out something else about the disappearing scabbard/sheath bug and the 2 sugataras bug if you have a sugatara equiped and if your nikana zaw sheath were to disappear the extra sugatara thats not supposed to be there disappears with it. (Which makes me believe the 2nd sugatara is tied to the bugged nikana zaw scabbard/sheath.)

EDIT: I finally found out how the scabbard/sheath disappears if you ground slam that's what causes it ground slamming makes your nikana zaw sheath disappear i tested it multiple times every time if the sheath is not already missing if i ground slam its gone completely along with the 2nd sugatara that is attached to it which is not supposed to be there since that is a related bug with the nikana zaw sheath having a second sugatara attached to it. (After a bit more testing sometimes it takes a bit for it to disappear but ground slams are definitely the cause normally i just noticed that its gone after playing for a bit but if i ground slam right as the mission begins it will start missing shortly if not instantly + another way to make the sheath disappear is to do a melee attack and aim your primary or secondary weapon before the animation ends there might be other ways but these 2 im guaranteed make it happen in general using melee makes the sheath go poof in most situations but ground slamming and "cancelling" or ending an melee animtion for example as stated above aiming your weapon makes it disappear 100% of the time while there may be other ways that i yet to know off.)

EDIT: Respawning (dying in solo or holding X in public...) makes the sheath/scabbard reappear but will disappear again if you do any of the above described things that make it disappear. (Varying amounts of success with this sometimes it dosent reappear.)

EDIT: Found another bug if you have your nikana zaw set to invisible when holstered its sheath and the extra sugatara from a different bug will just be floating on whatever holster slot you have your nikana set (for example mine is on my back and if i set it to invisible when holstered the sheath will just float on my back empty no blade in it and the extra sugatara will be there floating as well.) + This happens a sometimes when your flying a railjack.

EDIT: Noticed another bug with the sheath/scabbard any type of cloaking Loki, Ivara, Ash, Shade everything will not affect the sheath and the blade and sugatara go invisible but the sheath and the extra sugatara (From another bug) attached to it does not. (I put more screenshots with examples in the imgur album) + While i was testing i found the new sugatara (Zato sugatara) from the Excalibur deluxe set to be very jittery and unstable on some skins like the tennogen shinigami nikana one im using (this happens on all nikanas i think only tried it on nikana prime besides nikana zaw).

EDIT: Since Derelict Shift: Update 28.3.0 dropped Nikana zaw holster styles are broken no matter which location you have picked for you zaw nikana to be holstered on now its always on your hip screenshot example have been added.

Edited August 16, 2020 by killer13tibor

[killer13tibor]

Im bumping this because it needs more attention #PlsFixZawNikanas

Edited November 30, 2019 by killer13tibor

[geogame11]

I also have the sames bugs.

[Nindzjan_Gaming_YouTube]

Same problem.

 

[killer13tibor]

Another week another bump sorry but this needs attention there are way too many bugs (some have been there for months now) tied to this one weapon type and it needs fixing badly.
And especially now that there are more bugs related to the new put a skin on the zaw feature (Having any skin (except the Gemini sheaths) on a nikana zaw now will make it have and do almost no sounds and effects like trails and swinging sounds.)

[Horonelius]

Bump

[killer13tibor]

Some bugs got fixed but its only the New ones so here we go again time to bump this collection of old nikana zaw "bugs" or more like collection of bugs caused by the broken sheath/scabbard of the nikana zaw.

[Metagross10048]

FIX ALREADY.  This has been an issue for far too long.  

[Absynt]

The nikana zaw has been bugged since it was released, there are countless thread about this and it's not getting any attention or fixes. The zaw itself makes no sense both the blade and the sheath, redesign it if you have to but PLEASE fix this.

Edited December 25, 2019 by Absynt

[NjuxOfTheOld]

Same here

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1912273077

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1912272770

[WhiteGemini]

im gonna say my bit as well nikana zaw is an absolute mess no proper energy colors, blade clipping on blade sheath, missing swing sounds , should have been delt with around melee phase 2 and now i discover its been like this since plains was added wow just wow 

[ldegroodt115]

Bump.

[TheMoonWeasel]

Bump. This issue is so annoying. I was gonna buy a nice skin for my Zaw, but I've read that this bug also affect other skins than the default.

[Zeghart]

This has NOT been fixed with the mainline update.

These issues have existed for the nikana zaws for years now, and even the big "Revised" update did nothing.

[Dakr0]

This happens even if you have skin applied to zaw nikana. It's been occuring both in arsenal and during missions...

 

Screen:

Spoiler

 

[(PSN)ozone_74]

Pls fix.. Nikana zaw is a buggy mess.

 

Edit : I will not let this thread die! 

Edited March 22, 2020 by (PS4)ozone_74

[CaptainHopsALot]

New Nikana built: Sepfahn - Peye - Vargeet II Jai

Applied Nikana Dax skin 

1) Double attachment - one on end of hilt (as usual) - one in middle of sheath (still there when skin is removed)

2) Sheath completely disappears after performing melee attack - issue persists after leaving mission. Sheath only respawns after touching arsenal. When going to operator form in Excal umbra, the sheath reappears. But, when returning to warframe, the sheath disappears again.

 

Thanks,

 

[OutXider]

+1 It's been like this since Melee 2.999

[Kazuroth]

this bug makes me so annoyed👺

[xPureShot]

Hope they do look into fixing the bugs with this zaw was hoping to use it more but can't due to even when set to hidden the bugged sheath still shows up.

[ldegroodt115]

Bump, there are way more bugs than just the sheathe disappearing or double sugatra.

 

[ImJorski]

Bought a skin for the nikana zaw only to find theres a ton of visual bugs with it, DE how do you expect people to want to buy your cosmetics when they don't even work! Fix it!

[PaulEase]

This thing has been around for too long, please fix it! Ive invested a lot in my nikana zaw and I love using it. Even if this is just a visual issue, its still serious because its affecting our fashionframes and therefore our gameplay experience 😞

[Zornn_Alrunor]

I bought several skins for nikana :

Oku nikana skin/ Ryu Nikian skin And a tennogen one : shinigami nikana skin

All of them are buged on a nikana zaw. The holster disapear once i leave the arsenal, or i have 2 holsters instead of one.
I cannot reproduce on my other nikanas : nikana prime and skiajati.

here some screen shots of the bug:

https://ibb.co/qgw55wM
https://ibb.co/pXtN6BS
https://ibb.co/V9mm8PW

 

[Sinkune]

Yeah, I had the same problem. It seems nikana skins are bugged on Zaw (more the gemini and dax) so I asked on support to refund the skins if they could. It doesn't seem like they're going to fix it soon (people say this bug is known for a while) so a refund looks like the best solution for the moment.