seprent Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Samhel said: I know it's a co-op game and everything but, what should i do if i don't want to have randoms on my railjack (toxicity, and no i don't want to bother kicking out players, i've had enough of toxic players back when i played league of legends years ago) and my clanmates don't have time to play when i'm able to play (latenight mostly)? I don't even like eidolon hunts and i'm trying to just buy everything with platinum because so many randoms become toxic just because they can't do 5x3... (wtf guys), because most players are just impatient douchbags in public... Hmm personally my plan for when we can fly it is do the free fly mission to get a grip of what does what and were then wait let the co-op people fly though the launch bugs and wait for Command skill to unlock and then play it because around that time a hoping majority of the big bugs will be fixed personally while i can understand people complaining its not solo friendly right out the box i kinda see it as a win for solo players since they might be getting a less buggy experience kinda like the PC to console thing Edited December 7, 2019 by seprent 1
(PSN)segulibanez65 Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 I feel ya. As long as there isn't some kind of lock-out preventing solo play I'm cool with it and will figure it out. Hopefully it will actually be a challenge to do it solo, then we might have some interesting content. If its somehow forced co-op (no indication it will be) I'll never touch it
Emolition Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 6 hours ago, zurdaro said: Not everyone can be a social butterfly, and not all "cope" well with being random people from the Public matchmaking. I myself don't like joining up in matchmaking since I know I am not a player that oneshots eidolons and such, and I can't help but feel like that is demanded if I join up for even basic eidolon bounty. That nothing you should worry about I think. The times I run the trio my goal is to finish 1 trio and I never had any complaints about they not instantly destroyed when doing pugs. I got 1 friend with me tho so we just have 2 randoms in the group.
zurdaro Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Emolition said: That nothing you should worry about I think. The times I run the trio my goal is to finish 1 trio and I never had any complaints about they not instantly destroyed when doing pugs. I got 1 friend with me tho so we just have 2 randoms in the group. Logically, I know that, but as I am someone who does not like the idea that I don't meet expectations, it can't be helped in general.
kapn655321 Posted December 7, 2019 Posted December 7, 2019 8 hours ago, Samhel said: I don't even like eidolon hunts I absolutely get where you're coming from. Most content that inspires that level of ambition is... more steep as far as expectations go. Can get some people downright Bristly about how ambitious they can be. This content is for them, for now. After about a year, things tend to get chill once those guys crash the market on those goods. ..and everbody chases the next big thing. At those times, it gets better on average. Eidolons though, were very well tooled to sustain that ambitious crowd far longer. That's an accomplishment in it's own right. Pretty impressive how into that run people are, still. So much so that the odds of getting a party that is uncompromisingly or unwelcomingly refined, is yet too great to interest me. (If 1 in 5 parties are like this, then that content is not for me.) I suspect Empyrean will be another one of these circumstances, so I'll try it in 2 years, once I have a mountain of the resources, and people don't care so much. That's just what it takes some times to have a comfy casual random game.
Furebel Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 I'm mostly solo player with no friends, and I don't really like to cooperate, but I don't see this as much of an issue. There will still be matchmaking, so I think that will solve the problem. 1
Dark_Horse89 Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) On 2019-12-07 at 5:08 PM, Samhel said: I know it's a co-op game and everything but, what should i do if i don't want to have randoms on my railjack (toxicity, and no i don't want to bother kicking out players, i've had enough of toxic players back when i played league of legends years ago) and my clanmates don't have time to play when i'm able to play (latenight mostly)? I don't even like eidolon hunts and i'm trying to just buy everything with platinum because so many randoms become toxic just because they can't do 5x3... (wtf guys), because most players are just impatient douchbags in public... i agreed! Im solo player too. I play warframe for a long time, and this thing that you can do also solo your missions keep me in the game. i make a solo clan, i have dojo for one person, all labs and resources are ready and i was preparing for this railjack all this time.... so i can build it and fly it. I don't like eidolon hunt too but i do it solo sometimes. Many people become mad, they don't have patience, and everyone want to play it pro and all the others we are noobs. Im working better alone and i dont like to join others many times. I know maybe it sound selfish but i don't want other people to enjoy all my hard work....i wanna do this railjack alone as i do all the other stuff in the game. It will be pleasure sometimes to invite other players...... mostly i carry new players sometimes to help them when i can or if they need a blueprint from dojo i help... but i like mostly to play alone. I wait a bit more to see how railjack can be i have faith in this devs, warframe for now is the best free to play game by my opinion... but im so sad i said that, If the railjack it be 100% co op i will uninstall the game once and for all, and il do format also to be sure that there is no any file of this game on me pc 😞 Edited December 8, 2019 by Semblant89 1
(PSN)guzmantt1977 Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 14 minutes ago, Semblant89 said: but im so sad i said that, If the railjack it be 100% co op i will uninstall the game once and for all, and il do format also to be sure that there is no any file of this game on me pc 😞 Can we have your stuff? 1
(PSN)FriendSharkey Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) The only thing you can do is either make an effort to gain real long term friends in this game which, feels impossible. Or just wait and see... Perhaps like the removed co-op raids that were without matchmaking cutting you off from arcanes you'll see something like the Eidolon Hunts in where you now can gain said arcanes... So who knows perhaps internal numbers will have DE create a solo RailJack that smaller or inactive clans as well as single players can man to participate in the content in a year or two.... Edited December 8, 2019 by (PS4)FriendSharkey
ryu-hayabusa1 Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 26 minutes ago, (PS4)FriendSharkey said: So who knows perhaps internal numbers will have DE create a solo RailJack that smaller or inactive clans as well as single players can man to participate in the content in a year or two Sorry, but you seem to be missing a couple of things : 1- they will add a 5th skill, "command", which is an AI crew to go full solo. And they didn't say it would take a year or two. 2-Sheldon said on the dev stream, that he's been playing solo and it's doable. 3-Steve said, you can play solo, but it's going to be harder, as the system is more optimized(not exclusive) towards coop. Edited December 8, 2019 by ryu-hayabusa1 2
Kaotyke Posted December 8, 2019 Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Semblant89 said: but im so sad i said that, If the railjack it be 100% co op i will uninstall the game once and for all, and il do format also to be sure that there is no any file of this game on me pc 😞 It's funny for you to say this piece even though they have shown the non-coop option we will have with NPCs and have said time again and again about it being possible solo even without them. So, congratulations. You know you won't uninstall the game. But if you do: can I has ye stuff? 1
Lost_Cartographer Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Renegade343 said: If I know NPC crews in my experience of space battles, chances are that they'll probably overtake my ship and crash into something. Or just not do anything. I don't expect that we could leave the flight control of the railjack in the hands of the AI, but I figure if the Grineer/Corpus will have comparably sized cruisers we can hijack and use as a poor man's railjack, then it's not entirely impossible. More concerned with nuisance mechanics like fires and needing ammunition. Edited December 9, 2019 by Lost_Cartographer
(PSN)guzmantt1977 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 8 hours ago, Kaotyke said: It's funny for you to say this piece even though they have shown the non-coop option we will have with NPCs and have said time again and again about it being possible solo even without them. So, congratulations. You know you won't uninstall the game. But if you do: can I has ye stuff? Hey! I asked before you did. And stop trying to discourage them. I'm sure that if they were the type of person to care about silly things like "facts", they would not have worked themselves up to the point of threatening to leave if they didn't get exactly what they want. Plus from what they said, they have a pretty sweet, Railjack-ready dojo just waiting for.... uh ... hopefully one of us.... to come and claim it when they move on to greener pastures.
-CdG-Zilchy Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Inb4 your NPC crew decide you're a poor captain, stage a munity and eject you out of the airlock without your archwing
Rev14 Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 De said that it'll be possible to solo but harder. And when DE means harder, it's still quite easy for what we saw so far, so i'm not that concerned about the incoming update.
(XBOX)KamikaZSquirrel Posted December 9, 2019 Posted December 9, 2019 Co op play isn't for everyone. Especially these days where it's mostly forced and a lot of various other reasons so I do get why players are out there like the OP and a few others. For me I am in a similar boat, I have not officially been diagnosed but I have a lot of signs and tells that indicate a mild form of autism. That creates a social barrier but not because I don't want to be social, it's because you don't know how others will be.. I also have inherently high anxiety and depression. I have friends to play with that I have made and I do play with randoms too so in a sense I'm lucky and also willing to step into discomfort, However I do so with the fact that people in general can be "toxic" and not understanding. This way I do everything, I do eidolons and to a degree get a bit carried because I do the support role as Trinity, I have not done multiples in a night cycle and if players are toxic I do my tri cap then leave the squad... players can and sometimes will get angry but again ignore it, mute them if you have to, when finished you leave. There are players like myself who want the relaxed people to play with and for everyone here, we are out there so just look on the chats and take a chance 😃 I'm on xbox and anyone who plays on it and might need a hand, my GT is my username here =D
(PSN)guzmantt1977 Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 On 2019-12-09 at 1:19 AM, (XB1)KamikaZSquirrel said: For me I am in a similar boat, I have not officially been diagnosed but I have a lot of signs and tells that indicate a mild form of autism. That creates a social barrier but not because I don't want to be social, it's because you don't know how others will be.. I also have inherently high anxiety and depression. There's a reason why laypersons aren't allowed to practice Psychology without getting years of schooling. You should get checked out, instead of trying to self-diagnose. Self-diagnosis is almost never a good idea.
(PSN)Jack_Mahler Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 Le 09/12/2019 à 05:39, (PS4)guzmantt1977 a dit : Hey! I asked before you did. "C-can I share?"
(PSN)guzmantt1977 Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, (PS4)Jack_Mahler said: "C-can I share?" Ok, fine! But if he's got floofs, I get first pick. 😡
(PSN)Jack_Mahler Posted December 10, 2019 Posted December 10, 2019 il y a 5 minutes, (PS4)guzmantt1977 a dit : Ok, fine! But if he's got floofs, I get first pick. 😡 Sure, I honestly don't care about floofs lel
Samhel Posted December 11, 2019 Author Posted December 11, 2019 On 2019-12-09 at 6:19 AM, (XB1)KamikaZSquirrel said: For me I am in a similar boat, I have not officially been diagnosed but I have a lot of signs and tells that indicate a mild form of autism. That creates a social barrier but not because I don't want to be social, it's because you don't know how others will be.. I also have inherently high anxiety and depression. What the... bro, i'm sorry and i hope you'll get better or something, but i don't think that wanting to avoid toxic people means that you have mild autism or any form of that illness. Check this with a real doctor or something and don't say things you aren't sure about 😕
DrivaMain Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 (edited) How to deal with toxic players in a pub squad without kick function. 1. If you’re the captain, add said players to your ignore list and try to do the missions youself. If it’s too hard, abort and start another one with a new squad and hopefully they won’t rejoin. In my experience, I never saw the player I ignored in my missions if I am the host but I do saw them if I join someone else’s game with them in it. 2. If you’re a crew member with a toxic captain, just abort and find another crew and don’t forget to add them in your ignore list. Edited December 11, 2019 by DrivaMain
SenorClipClop Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 If we (devs and players alike) want to have late-game content like a replacement for Raids, we need to accept content which isn't going to be manageable playing solo. Raids weren't, and demanding this be an experience you can just tackle on your own would very likely put Empyrean on the road to Casual Town. So let's maybe not do that.
-CdG-Zilchy Posted December 11, 2019 Posted December 11, 2019 1 minute ago, SenorClipClop said: If we (devs and players alike) want to have late-game content like a replacement for Raids, we need to accept content which isn't going to be manageable playing solo. Raids weren't, and demanding this be an experience you can just tackle on your own would very likely put Empyrean on the road to Casual Town. So let's maybe not do that. Couldn't agree more mate.
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