Jump to content
Awazx

Empyrean and the decline of Warframe

Recommended Posts

2 minutes ago, Hypernaut1 said:

What I meant was I first thought AW would've been pretty much progressing at the same pace as the core game. Like with new AWs, missions, bosses, tilesets, weapons, mods, etc. 

Railjack uses AW, but not really an expansion of it. It's an entirely new progression system. 

I'm pretty sure what most people mean is the railjack is the new "archwing", as in it wont tie in to any of the core game, so you're just grinding a new archwing for mods and stuff

  • Applause 1
  • Upvote 5

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, Awazx said:

It is true. It is the first time I use fire extinguishers in this game.

I can't wait for the fire extinguisher frame to be added so we can powercreep the fire extinguishers.

  • Haha 9
  • Satisfied 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, ty91 said:

I'm pretty sure what most people mean is the railjack is the new "archwing", as in it wont tie in to any of the core game, so you're just grinding a new archwing for mods and stuff

I'm hoping it won't be. They claim that this will tie into upcoming content. I hope they are able to make good on that promise. 

It reminds me of the ship from Kingdom Hearts 1. It wasn't the core gameplay, but I enjoyed using it to transition between worlds and the progression was just deep enough to keep me interested. If the ship was just there as a mini game i3nto itself, I wouldn't have bothered at all, but they tied it into main game to give it context. 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I certainly don't like how DE keeps adding mini-games to the core game and usually abandons them (unless they are dead on arrival like Lunaro), something I am noticing is how Railjack would work better with more than 4 player squads, something that I find kind of cheap is having to waste resources (the same you are out to collect) for the real time repairs, the interior design of the railjack is sometimes hard to navigate back and forth when you need to clear hostiles and repair stuff, it would be interesting if certain frames had the ability to repair using their abilities as well.

  • Like 1
  • Woah 1
  • Upvote 13

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Megalomaniakaal said:

Like frost freezing/icing over the ruptures, or gara filling them with glass? Sure, I can see that...

It would be nice, but ideally you don't want to force people to use specific frames. 

Railjack would've been nice if it could hold 8 players

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Empyrean has some issues, and for sure will not appeal to everyone. But personally I'm loving it so far.

Two sides to every coin, etc

Definitely agree they could do better at tying systems together though, they've always struggled with that.

  • Like 4
  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, Hypernaut1 said:

force people to use specific frames. 

I'd expect the omni tool still to be there too, and for certain things each WF would still need it. But where possible, one less reason to constantly switch between omni tool equipped and unequipped...

 

Also, whats up with the rupture and fire locators only showing up with the omni tool in hand? uggh...

Edited by Megalomaniakaal
typos

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, KendoTsukikage said:

finally stayed cool and beat the first mission, then it said something like you can run and avoid the op dudes that came as backup....no green WP, so i stayed and killed the new guys, took forever but i managed with 1 revive left.  then still no way to exit other than abort mission!!!

This is by far the worst new content added to a game, tested by devs with GOD MODE!! Wait??@!@#! They don't just use GOD MODE, they have bugframefree MODE, no bugs, no chat issues, no this tenno you are talking with atm is offline stuff....

Planes was a terrible launch, but this Empooryousomemore update tops anything I've experienced in any game ever....

don't forget the cost, 6 mil, 36 hours of built time, not actual time, and grind for drops + mission times, the lich grind is nothing to this lolol

.....

Behind the pilot position there is a "navigation console" .... open it up and go back to the hanger from there....

People should really look around. First thing I did was check out ship areas and potential console names so i dont miss anything... even then its active...right there...behind you.... good lord.

Edited by Zakual
  • Woah 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, (NSW)Ace-Bounty-Hunter said:

Why are people always so cynical and negative around here?

Years of bad ideas and ignored problems.

  • Like 2
  • Satisfied 1
  • Applause 3
  • Upvote 22

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Il y a 2 heures, (NSW)Ace-Bounty-Hunter a dit :

Why are people always so cynical and negative around here?

Because they love the core gameplay of Warframe, love it enough to sometime spend too much money and time in it so seeing the current state of the game disappoint them ?

In 2019 Jupiter's rework and Disruption were good but the rest ? Clunky gameplay and bad good ideas. 

I don't think it's a player's burnout problem but a DE burnout one. They need to cool their heads and start to rethink the way they are building Warframe.

  • Like 3
  • Applause 1
  • Upvote 17

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, Awazx said:

What is Empyrean? It is Archwing 2.0. Nothing else.

This is nothing but a buzzword disguised as criticism. What is "Archwing 2.0"? Define it in detail. Explain your critique. What you've just said is essentially meaningless. You want to know what I think? You're bitter and don't want to enjoy this game anymore, no matter what DE does. You're not willing to learn a new way to play.

9 hours ago, Awazx said:

For my part, I am not going to play Empyrean and I am not going to build my Railjack.

So you haven't played it and aren't going to play it? Wow. The value of your opinion is pretty much zero.

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
  • Woah 3
  • Upvote 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
il y a 33 minutes, Mints a dit :

This is nothing but a buzzword disguised as criticism. What is "Archwing 2.0"? Define it in detail. Explain your critique. You want to know what I think? You're bitter...

Respectfully, I do not agree.

 

il y a 33 minutes, Mints a dit :

So you haven't played it and aren't going to play it? Wow. The value of your opinion is pretty much zero.

In another message, from another forista who asks me the same thing, I reply that I have thoroughly tested Railjack using the ships of my clan companions. I don't need my own ship to do an analysis.

Edited by Awazx

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, CoreWolf said:

Empyrean has some issues, and for sure will not appeal to everyone. But personally I'm loving it so far.

Two sides to every coin, etc

Definitely agree they could do better at tying systems together though, they've always struggled with that.

I'm with you. I expected Warframe gameplay merged with space combat and that's exactly what I got. It's insanely buggy to be sure, and I feel like the railjack's hull is A LITTLE too much on the paper-thin side, but I feel like with more work they'll get it. I know I'll be playing with my ship for quite a while.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Awazx said:

s-aZ7WLibLA9uYKRf6FOpq0w7Hy3S.jpg

In another message, from another forista who asks me the same thing, I reply that I have thoroughly tested Railjack using the ships of my clan companions. I don't need my own ship to do an analysis.

Yes please respond to my request for elaboration with a condescending twitter reaction image. That's the rational thing to do. Everyone should be able to generate a complex set of premises and rational arguments for you based on your reference to something else entirely. This is all valuable feedback for DE and all of us. Make sure not to actually reference specific details or address specific problems. That makes what you post even more convincing!

  • Haha 1
  • Woah 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
il y a 24 minutes, Mints a dit :

 You're not willing to learn a new way to play.

il y a 15 minutes, Mints a dit :

This is all valuable feedback for DE and all of us. 

I will answer you very briefly: I do not want to learn to play a different game. I want to keep playing Warframe. Railjack is NOT Warframe.

  • Applause 3
  • Upvote 6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Awazx said:

I do not want to learn to play a different game. I want to keep playing Warframe. Railjack is NOT Warframe.

So then go back to doing the same thing over and over again. You clearly don't want anything new so nothing they could add will ever be good enough. Yet, when I correctly identified this earlier, you gave me the image of the incredulous child.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Wow, the salt is real and so is the colossal butt hurt.  Why not try to actually play the mode properly rather than *@##$ about it constantly?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
il y a 1 minute, Mints a dit :

So then go back to doing the same thing over and over again. You clearly don't want anything new

Of course, I want new things. Things that fix, improve and expand the core of Warframe.

I don't want microgames or "in-game games" that have nothing to do with Warframe.

  • Like 6
  • Applause 1
  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, Awazx said:

I don't want microgames or "in-game games" that have nothing to do with Warframe.

See I don't get this logic. The entire structure of Empyrean is basically just a normal Warframe mission but with vehicles attached. It's entirely fair to call it a new game mode, in the same way that Sabotage and Spy are different game modes, but to say it's a minigame is nonsense. It's like saying the missions in Halo heavily centered around vehicles are minigames. You're still doing all the same stuff. You're still blowing up enemies, activating consoles, destroying objectives, and looting materials. If anything they stick too closely to the normal mission structure. I much prefer going around exploring and collecting resources compared to the initial Fighter/Crew extermination phase.

  • Like 1
  • Haha 1
  • Upvote 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Railjack was announced with the key word "connection", if you remember Steve said that in the past tennocon this gamemode Will connect the core of Warframe with the new and old content, but we  can't say that railjack Is a S#&$ because railjack, is in the scond phase of this ,if you excuse Is "I'm a alone player" the only  option to enjoy railjack in this moment Is wait the third phase and play with the I.A, if you analyze the game is 90% tileset a the other 10% is railjack open world etc, guys really you like the repetitive stuff and the same tileset that we were seen for 6 years? A little of diversity is good I like it railjack and I will waiting the third phase.

Guys if you like you can give railjack a little chance is very fun with friends but if you don't have friends who play, you can play in public and meet with other players, you will enjoy. 

Pd: sorry for my bad English

Pd: don't be negative enjoy! The game is free 😄 ❤️

Edited by Federix687
  • Like 3
  • Woah 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, Awazx said:

Of course, I want new things. Things that fix, improve and expand the core of Warframe.

I don't want microgames or "in-game games" that have nothing to do with Warframe.

And there we get the truth, at last.  You don't want NEW things you want old things done up.  Same old blasted story with games.  "They did something new now I hate it."  I respect your opinion but I frankly think its completely childish and grossly ignorant.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
il y a 5 minutes, Urulai a dit :

And there we get the truth, at last.  You don't want NEW things you want old things done up. 

They were also "new" things at the time Lunaro, PoE, Fortuna, Archwing ... and died in oblivion. Empyrean will end up like Lunaro.

  • Like 2
  • Haha 1
  • Upvote 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
il y a 17 minutes, Mints a dit :

 It's like saying the missions in Halo heavily centered around vehicles are minigames. .

It's not minigame but clearly recreational for some minutes between longer sessions of core gameplay. It's not the main feature of halo and can be cut without hurting it. It's not what takes 2 years of development for the team.

It can be good to have those kind of sides features (and Warframe is already full of those, all dead) but only as a cherry on top of the cake not as your main objective.

Edited by (PS4)Herrwann69
  • Applause 5
  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.

×
×
  • Create New...