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Thanks for the hotfix!

I think what we really need for railjack is continous improvements to the feel of the combat.

It's not nearly arcadey enough. Most of the guns have ridiculously slow projectives, the enemies are tiny, have a tiny healthbar with too little feedback and feel bullet spongey at higher levels.

I think the real reason people immidiately start complaining about stuff like the credit caches is that they aren't having enough fun with the core gameplay itself. Otherwise people wouldn't care as much about that.

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Thanks for the update!

Four patches in and Empyrean still has some kinda stuff that needs to be looked at...

1. The forges' REFINE feature has no point and actually does more harm than good!
The aspect of managing your collected resources during a mission might be interesting but kinda gets messed up through the mechanic that is refinement.
First off, resources you don't refine during or by the end of the mission are lost. Why is that though? Can't there be a thing like auto-refinement after mission success? Where is the logic in just letting them vanish off the ship?
Second, the all-time availability of the feature makes it dangerous during critical mission phases. Someone might unknowingly refine the ressources when they might decide between failure or success of a mission. I had someone once who refined when we had a fatal hull breach and thus couldn't forge the much needed Revolite to avert mission failure. This shouldn't be a thing that can happen! (On another side note: a few moments before that, said person who refined didn't even know that a thing like the forges existed, wondering why their Omni wouldn't fix breaches when we were out of Revolite. This happened on goddamn SATURN. Railjack needs a tutorial!)
That being said, the best measure to handle this IMHO is to just take out the feature at all. Give each resource a capacity on its own to prevent resource clogging and auto-refine all that after mission success.

2. The pacing between Railjack missions and resource farming is quite off.
Currently the missions look like this: you start a mission, fight off fighters and crewships and maybe disable an enemy base, all while getting a bunch of resources. If you want to go for extra resources, you'd have to go out after the mission and scavenge the debris, which yield more rarer stuff like Fresnels, Trachons or some extra Dirac. This issues here are for once that it depends on the Railjack host to allow to go for extra stuff. If they wanna leave, you have no choice but to leave as well. Will we at some point be able to decide individually how long we want to remain in a mission? The other issue is that, with the debris spread along wide distances and the Railjack and Archwing speeds being kinda low, farming this stuff takes a lot of time. Railjack speed can be upgraded, AW leads me to the third point...

3. Reconsider Archwing Blink / Controls
Not everyone has been happy with the latest changes to Blink, with the 2 second cooldown taking a lot of the speed that Itzal provided previously. While I very much like how AW controls now, the one thing that boggles me the most though is how you have to handle Blink and Afterburner in turn to travel the fastest, with both being bound to the same key. For my part I've even written an AHK macro to deal with that. Why can't we bind them for ourselves? Railjack got a whole own key binding section, why has that never been a thing for Archwing? Please let the people decide how the wanna control their Archwings!
EDIT: Someone told me the Sprint/Roll bindings would correspond to the Afterburner/Blink controls, which I didn't know, but makes sense. It would still be nice to keep those settings separate and clean.

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Oh wow. I completely forgot Ivara Prime is out today.

Thanks for the notes.

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About Sword and Shield weapon Class:

- "Air combos" do not work. You jump, hold the “S” button in the air, push CC button and ... you throw the shield. Conventional air СС single hit - have also been replaced with a shield throw. I explain... In mid-air if you hold "S" button and starts smashing CC button - you see some air combo. It's a new mechanic. But this mechanic doesn't work with S&S class. Try to make "air combo" with another class weapon and you see what wrong with S&S class. That's why i proposed to return the old mechanic to throw the shield (jump x2 and you can throw).

-When I am doing combo being on uneven ground - shield may spontaneously throw himself and brake the combos. Problem occurs regularly on rough surfaces when you use combos with long lunges forward. You find yourself in the air for a short time due to which occurs a Shield Throwing. You must enter a double jump to be able to throw the shield so that they can be thrown at ANY VERTICAL ANGLE! ...at the moment it can not be done. DE, please return the old mechanic to throw the shield (jump x2 and you can throw).

- When throwing, the shield will homing on friendly objects if they are closer than the enemy. For example, he is homing on a capsule on defense missions.

- Damage is very small for those shields that were launched. Damage adjustment required. For example, to increase the damage of the shield being thrown after a certain number of blockings with shield of enemy fire. "Charge the shield for a more powerful throw". Need enter changes to system of absorption of damage to Shields

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I would also like to add from myself a couple of suggestions for correcting СС:

- autoblock needs in "CC full mode" (when u hold "change weapon" button). Because so much easier and more efficient. The problem arises when you take on a mission only one melee weapon. You get used to that autolock is constantly working on its own, but getting on a mission with restrictions on weapons - you begin often to die. Automatic has to work all the time and in any regime!

- and... "hold "change weapon" button for "full CC regime"" - I never - used this. This option awkward to use in dynamic game.  The bottom line is that I'm not against the clamping button to activate the "full CC regime", only needs Autoblock in this regime or the possibility of its inclusion in the game settings to use "full CC regime" with Autoblock system. Autoblock works correctly at this moment not counting the "bug" when a player hangs in the air at blocking enemy fire. Autoblocking system should not lead to the hang of players in the air! Its some a flaw in CC.

(btw, need a toggle for ABS for "full CC regime" in game options)

- I still don’t like the moment when selected wrong firearm after using the synthesis scanner. For example... a secondary weapon was selected before i use the Synthesis Scanner, but after I scanned the target and removed the Synthesis Scanner - the MAIN WEAPON appear in hands of my Frame. Very often it is confusing. Before the introduction of СС innovations, everything was in order with this.

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В 29.11.2019 в 08:47, GPrime96 сказал:

There's a issue i noticed today after i saw it in this Video: 

Her Mirror works like it should at a flat surface but when the enemies be more uneven with the surface, you would be taking damage with her Mirror up.The problem with that is when you are playing in Grineer Tilesets like Galleon or Mars Tileset, you would most likely take damage than soaking up the Damage for her Blood Orb. So as long as you are fighting in a leveled area, watch your back.

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- Dual Decurion has notable recoil which throws off accuracy at medium-long range shooting even in time of aimed fire in space (

- Enemies do not drop out of the sphere of energy in space.

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FCK ! Update and Railjack Mission = Loose Progress because new Update is available !! 

Can't return to Dojo

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Hi DE. Looks like I can farm the new Prime Parts now or I could test again how buggy and unfunny Railjack still is…

Railjack is all about Archwing stuff and you just nerfed stuff with Empyrean. I mean changing every Archgun to projectile based is kinda weird. How can you kill enemies in space effectively when they are that fast and you are forced to use projectile based Weapons now? Also Archmelees are extremely useless. Archmelee also still has that ultimate Meme Mod [Furor]. Adding 10% Attack Speed at maxed Rank. Funny. Farming Intrinsics and other resources is some next level of Grind. Being forced to play the same boring missions hundreds of times just isn’t fun. Everyone should get all the resources that were collected during the Mission at least. Unrewarding Grind isn’t Content DE.

With all these recent changes and updates I’m really wondering what will be next. Maybe it would be a good idea to ask yourself if the Content you create is actually enjoyable. I mean it’s kinda foreseeable that people will hate stuff like projectile based Archguns or Paracesis like Kuva Weapons. I have the feeling it’s all about new and rushed updates, no matter what. It looks like older Content never really gets fixed and updated. Liches are still not enjoyable. Conclave is still completely broken. Still no third Orb in Orb Vallis. Still no proper rework for Nyx, even after that fancy looking Deluxe Skin was released. You nerfed Itzal’s Blink in a way nobody asked for. I would really wish that you would start listening more to your players feedback again.

Nevertheless, good luck with your future updates DE.  

P.S. Where is [Split Flights]?

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Seriously, DE? Brilliant implementation here, can't go to your dry dock after any hotfix so you're just forced to abort and lose all your rewards.

Also, selling Dirac and Rush Repair Drone on the market for platinum vs. all the grind required feels pretty gross and definitely giving pay to win vibes.

Reminder that giving liches cheap insta-kills on us is bad game design.

 

 

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PLEASE hurry up and make base/inside structure materials group shared!!! I've already lost an Umbra Forma because some team mate decided not to say anything until after we left the mission.

Oh and thanks for making everyone fail the missions they were on after update. Dojo is considered a mission so everyone had to abort.

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Good change. 1CBzQCh.png

I hope you have fixed selling equipped railjack mods? Avionics UI should need some rework (like seeing which mods are in use while on scrapping screen).

 

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You can find Ivara Prime, Baza Prime, and Aksomati Prime Relics in their classic spots (Void, Derelict, Defense, Survival, etc) with the addition of Railjack missions - All Credit Cache Rewards have been replaced with Relics! Check your in-game Codex for Relic drop locations.

This is amazing.

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4 minutes ago, [DE]Rebecca said:

Fixed Sawgaws being near impossible to Tranq.

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So the droptables just got updated:
2% on an RNG lavan/vidar reactor as a mission rewards for a mission that lasts 20 to 40min.
How is this even acceptable? Last time I checked you guys didn't want "layers of RNG" and this whole thing is just that.

This whole update feels like one mission spammed on 20+ nodes with no variance given longevity only via the rng rolls, the houses, and very low droprates. 

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You see, the problem with this whole thing is that even when you do get something, with RNG ranges this bad, it's not even guarenteed to be an upgrade. unknown.png

Edit 2:
This only gets better, just when I thought weapons were the only redemming feature of this whole mess, you guys go out of you way to add RNG stat roll while still not fixing either the typo in your patch notes or the actuall scrapping returns in-game.
 

If I didn't know you guys I would think This a pretty bad monetazition push with how costly the repair is rn and the scrapping giving only half of your resources back while that auto repair on the market is pretty tempting for 50p.

 

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The Railjack changes:

Empyrean: Ivara Prime 27.0.4

Railjack Changes & Fixes:

  • Added Railjack Health perks for performing repairs on the Railjack:
    • 15% of max Health for Fire and Electricity Traps
    • 20% of max Health for Ruptures
    • 30% of max Health for Hull Breaches
  • Currently a Hull Breach Repair grants you 10 seconds of Railjack invulnerability. With the added Health perk for Hull Breaches, we’ve tweaked the Railjack Invulnerability time to grant a benefit to those with haste to compensate! Repairing a Hull Breach now grants Railjack invulnerability scaled to the amount of time left on the ‘Catastrophic Failure Imminent' timer. You can get anywhere from 5 - 15 seconds of Railjack invulnerability based on your Hull Breach Repair urgency.
  • Removed Credit Caches from the Railjack reward table! Relics have been added in Railjack missions to compensate for this.
  • Increased the cooldown of the Elite Kosma Flak's Shield ability and fixed the shield not actually blocking damage sometimes.
  • Adjusted hit boxes on the Elite Kosma Flak for improved accuracy. 
  • Adjustments to the Archwing Cannon firing animation for a less janky launch.
  • Removed a certain floating prison found in Railjack missions due to numerous collision/sizing issues. It shall return at a later date!
  • Enabled Push-To-Talk in Railjack keyboard bindings.
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fixes?

Main fixes I wish to see are codex scans, being able to link RJ content and a means to get out of UI lockups
(especially for captains of the squad, whom need to pick the next mission node, a stuck captain means a mission of nothing for everyone)

a 52 minute Railjack mission was borked at the last second when I tried to bored a crewed ship just as they de-spawned and it locked controls and unstuck was worthless. couldn't even press X to hop into own ship after a squad-mate positioned it right in front of me, so yeah. that needs a contingency.

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