FataL-Flaw Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I got a 'lucky' roll on a zetki reactor, +43 avionics.. and currently I have 6 Avionics total slotted with no power remaining, and only 4 of those are 7/7 ranked. It's not like we need the extra avionics slotted to run any missions, but why have so many slots when there is no possible way to fill them? Even if you hit the RNG lottery and get a good vidar reactor (literally about 1 in 1000 odds and your only shot is mission completion reward) , there still isn't enough grid to put 7/7's in every slot. So what was the plan, forma the RJ so things can fit? Sell RJ orokin reactors for plat? The base grid should probably be 50 capacity and the RNG railjack reactor game would be more tolerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 uh with a top Vidar Reactor you should be able to use almost all of your Mod Slots - it's not like you need to intentionally try and put the most expensive Mods on, you're supposed to put on the most useful Mods to you. 130 Mod Points might leave you in some situations with one Combat/Tactial Slot empty, though since most Tactial Abilities are 'eh' and there's only a few Combat Abiilties worth Equipping, the competition for using those Slots isn't all that high anyways. but are we likely to get something to double Mod Points? no, i don't think so seeing as that would mean a good Zetki Reactor would already put you at that "well i can Equip 99% of everything i might want so that's good enough i'm done". more likely is that as more Railjack content gets put into the Live Build, that we end up with another item Tier or something. the game does have a thing for making things in sets of 3 or 4, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schilds Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) Why should you be able to fit in all 7/7 avionics anyway? I'm fine with tradeoffs, means you have to think a little about what you want to specialise in. Having said that, you may well be right that there's a RJ potato on the way. Edited December 27, 2019 by schilds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 We upgrate from one finger to TWO fingers! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBloodySin Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Just now, Kaotyke said: We upgrate from one finger to TWO fingers! And that's how the Man in the Wall's body begins getting reassembled... Either way, I'd be all for there being an Orokin Flux Capacitor in the Market. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkandae Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 il y a 38 minutes, FataL-Flaw a dit : I have 6 Avionics total slotted with no power remaining, and only 4 of those are 7/7 ranked. Sometimes lavan avionics are better (and cheaper) than a non maxed zekti. il y a 40 minutes, FataL-Flaw a dit : but why have so many slots when there is no possible way to fill them? For now. I wouldn't be suprised if Zekti reactors become the best when we'll have MK10 stuff because there will be too much avionics on the others and zekti will give bonus energy. And I guess they'll be the 2% mission reward by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smilomaniac Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Just so you know, the Mk3 Sigma reactor (that you research) gives you +50 capacity. It's likely a trade off on flux, but unless you're spamming seeker volleys and flares, you'll be fine. It's also cheap. A hell of a lot cheaper than any of the other Mk3 reactors anyway. DE pulled this design out of their butt. They planned an energy balancing system (TERRIBLE idea in practice, even you want to do a dedicated ship simulator) and instead threw it over on the avionics system, so that you balance the mods instead, at least until you get a better reactor. We'll probably be getting Mk4 and 5 items when the rest of the game mode comes out. Getting a Vidar Reactor now is just overkill for getting the next stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awazx Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 hace 3 minutos, Smilomaniac dijo: DE pulled this design out of their butt. I'm curious: What part of the butt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smilomaniac Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, Awazx said: I'm curious: What part of the butt? Left cheek, from behind the secret flap. It's not where the terrible design choices comes from, but it's adjacent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awazx Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 hace 2 minutos, Smilomaniac dijo: Left cheek, from behind the secret flap. It's not where the terrible design choices comes from, but it's adjacent. Now I can sleep peacefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I'm not sure why you'd want to slot 7/7 in every slot. Some of them are a total waste compared to the cheaper versions because the gain from them is either pointless, or worse in some cases. A Sigma mk3 should last you a good while before getting a Vidar. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, SneakyErvin said: I'm not sure why you'd want to slot 7/7 in every slot. We're allowed to max out everything else in the game, why is Railjack off-limits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mints Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Did you notice that the Reliquary Drive has space for a head that the "finger" doesn't occupy? I have a feeling that DE are going to fulfill the long-standing double wordplay about Operators and Reactors both being referred to as potatoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBloodySin Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Just now, (XB1)Erudite Prime said: We're allowed to max out everything else in the game, why is Railjack off-limits? Can you have maximum health, shields, energy, range, efficiency, strength, duration, auras and others at the same time? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 1 minute ago, xBloodySin said: Can you have maximum health, shields, energy, range, efficiency, strength, duration, auras and others at the same time? What a bizarre misrepresentation of my argument. A better thing would be "Can you have max rank mods in every slot" and the answer is yes. Edited December 27, 2019 by (XB1)Erudite Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBloodySin Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Just now, (XB1)Erudite Prime said: What a bizarre misrepresentation of my argument. What a quaint deflection of the fact your argument was incorrect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Erudite Prime Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I promise you it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xBloodySin Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Just now, (XB1)Erudite Prime said: A better thing would be "Can you have max rank mods in every slot" and the answer is yes. Can you have Rank 14+ Primed and Umbral mods (without Formas, which don't exist in Railjack, of course) in every slot at the same time? And the answer is no, Can you have Rank 7 Avionics in every slot at the same time? And the answer is no. You have to compromise in both cases. But this allowed me to see your promises are as valid as your arguments, which I guess is something to take out of this exchange. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, (XB1)Erudite Prime said: We're allowed to max out everything else in the game, why is Railjack off-limits? No we arent. But then again, slapping on all 14-16 point mods on a frame wouldnt be a good idea to do in the first place even if we could, same deal with avionics. You also seem to forget that certain 7/7 avionics are cheaper than other 7/7 avionics while bringing you far better benefits to your build. You can save in on several points on such things. Then it also comes to what you actually need, just like with frames. For instance, it is pointless to go beyond the cheapest +heat avionic. Either because your weapons dont really need them if you run Vidar/Lavan, or because the difference would only mean 1 shot or second more of firing with a Zetki. Then it comes down to if you really need the most expensive maxima or bulkhead aswell as the most expensive last stand in that same build. Likely you dont. Maxima is mostly trash since it is counter productive to your Zetki shield bonus most likely and if you want to run last stand it is countering the use of that aswell. Then you need to decide on bulkhead or last stand, since both arent really worth it in the same build. Yeah sure, bulkhead means 20% HP is a far larger pool, but it also means it takes alot more getting to that threshold. It is all about balance and the intent of the build when it comes down to how much capacity you really need. And while you work towards a reactor to fit what you need, just ditch your tactical avionics and settle with just 1 battle avionic for situations where it is really needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkandae Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 il y a une heure, (XB1)Erudite Prime a dit : We're allowed to max out everything else in the game, why is Railjack off-limits? It's just the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephane Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 2 hours ago, schilds said: Why should you be able to fit in all 7/7 avionics anyway? I'm fine with tradeoffs, means you have to think a little about what you want to specialise in. It's not a trade-off if it only happens because RNG drops and stats didn't favour you. If DE intended for there to be be a trade-off, then 100 capacity reactors weren't a thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazyKnight Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 The sigma reactor mk iii is good enough to use until you can get a good Vidar Reactor. It not like DE added any boss or hard content yet that need a fully optimized load-out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skaleek Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 The biggest issue is that the avionic capacity is sooo much more valuable than flux or passives right now it makes those abilities pointless. That's why everyone wants vidar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schilds Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, Mephane said: It's not a trade-off if it only happens because RNG drops and stats didn't favour you. If DE intended for there to be be a trade-off, then 100 capacity reactors weren't a thing. Even with a 100 capacity reactor you're not going to be able to fit in 7/7 avionics in all slots. Edited December 27, 2019 by schilds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPrime96 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, schilds said: Even with a 100 capacity reactor you're not going to be able to fit in 7/7 avionics in all slots. ^^ Currently using a +98 Capacity and honestly, 100 would give me 2 extra Capacity only and let me put a Avionic 8n the last open Slot. Very easy to burn through Capacity when you fully upgrade the Grid and the Avionics. Also with the 13 - 17 Point Avionics or something like that. Edited December 27, 2019 by GPrime96 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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