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Just now, (XB1)aMichealMeyers said:

Wack. It also had +240 flux, which I'm guessing is the max? Will that get rerolled too? I think I had almost perfect roll Zekti, if +240 flux is the max. 

No flux is not being touched. 300 flux is the max.

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5 minutes ago, (XB1)aMichealMeyers said:

Huh. I had a 49/50 Zekti reactor. The new values are now 70 to 80?

What will happen to that Zekti reactor? Will it still have nearly the best values, like 78/80 or 79/80? Or will it become crap 70/80? 

Crap 70/80 is still 21 more than your "über powered" 49/50. Damn guys complaining about free upgrades.

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1 minute ago, Skaleek said:

I worked hard for it. And I don't want to do their casino rolling again. Otherwise they are telling me not to play their content early because they will just invalidate my hard work a few weeks later.

that's how Warframe works since it launched. Balancing to stuff you worked hard for come and go months sometimes even years later. Abilities get reworked, frames get reworked, everything changes.. some change for the better some for worse. it's how it's been and it's how most likely will be. is it fair to our put in work? Not in the slightest, but it's not our game, it's DE's, they call the shots and we just follow.

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1 minute ago, Chewarette said:

Crap 70/80 is still 21 more than your "über powered" 49/50. Damn guys complaining about free upgrades.

Its a clean slate. You are rerolling everything you farmed in the lavan and zetki reactor territory. It's an upgrade, but you are being put back on the treadmill if you are attempting to get a "max roll".

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à l’instant, Skaleek a dit :

Ironic. Read my post more carefully.

Ironic uh ?

 

il y a 15 minutes, Skaleek a dit :

. Please do not invalidate the hard work I put in by rerolling my reactors into a potential garbage tier.

But OK, I got the nuance now. You should have pretended ignorance, this would have looked better. Your stuff can only get buffed (or stagnate at worst maybe), what are you complainig about ? It's ridiculous.

You rushed the grind of a very young update, before they could hotfix anything. You profited from the best stuff (at the time) before a majority of players. It's all on you.

Meanwhile, people that are playing the game at a reasonnable rate are still gonna be weaker than you for quite some time.

Your only complaint is " my stuff is not gonna be as min maxy as I wanted", well though luck, maybe don't powerfarm next updates in the first weeks next time.

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5 minutes ago, EDM774 said:

it's how it's been and it's how most likely will be. is it fair to our put in work? Not in the slightest, but it's not our game, it's DE's, they call the shots and we just follow.

Yes, this is probably correct. But I felt the need to at least request it because I do not want to do the casino again, even though i know 99% chance that I will have to.

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4 hours ago, [DE]Saske said:

Your current reactor values will get remap onto the new reactor values. Your 50 capacity Zetki reactor will turn into a 80 capacity Zetki reactor etc.

Thank you! This is the clarification I was looking for. Very much appreciated Saske. I am very grateful that you guys had the foresight to map instead of entirely reroll.

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4 minutes ago, Skaleek said:

I worked hard for it. And I don't want to do their casino rolling again. Otherwise they are telling me not to play their content early because they will just invalidate my hard work a few weeks later. I value my time, I dont want to repeat the grind.

And a lot of people worked hard for a lot of different content that got changed over the last 7 years too. You have also been around that long. What did you expect differently from this rushed patch like all the others before it. You may not have perfect anymore, but you're still making out better than what you had. That's better than a lot of old situations. 🤷‍♂️

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5 minutes ago, Firetempest said:

And a lot of people worked hard for a lot of different content that got changed over the last 7 years too. You have also been around that long. What did you expect differently from this rushed patch like all the others before it. You may not have perfect anymore, but you're still making out better than what you had. That's better than a lot of old situations.

This is a very fair point. But it never hurts to try. I can take being ridiculed by the general forum populace, its not really a big deal. The idea is to talk to DE directly. The people laughing at me are just keeping the thread active and bumped for visibility.

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1 minute ago, [DE]Saske said:

Your current reactor values will get remap onto the new reactor values. Your 50 capacity Zetki reactor will turn into a 80 capacity Zetki reactor etc.

Does this mean that my 11 capacity 300 flux reactor will become 71 capacity?

How is this a "re-roll"? If that's what you guys are doing, this is not "re rolling". May want to clarify Rebecca's initial post..

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1 minute ago, Vit0Corleone said:

Does this mean that my 11 capacity 300 flux reactor will become 71 capacity?

How is this a "re-roll"? If that's what you guys are doing, this is not "re rolling". May want to clarify Rebecca's initial post..

I mean you get to keep your roll but its translated higher, I think thats a much more fair system and less a "lottery".

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12 minutes ago, Skaleek said:

I worked hard for it. And I don't want to do their casino rolling again. Otherwise they are telling me not to play their content early because they will just invalidate my hard work a few weeks later. I value my time, I dont want to repeat the grind.

Welcome to Warframe where early adoption is always a risk and everything is subject to change at any time. From DE's perspective running a script for a reroll within the new ranges is far easier then one where they assign a weight to the current roles and then reroll them within equivelently weighted values. Unfortunately for you it is far more important to DE and the majority of the playerbase to get these adjustments out sooner then to stall it for the small minority of the playerbase that bothered to get high roles on subpar reactors. It is possible DE will give some sort of compensation in the form of something being added to our account, although if they are they haven't said anything yet, but the likelihood of you getting another perfect role is pretty small.

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Just now, Skaleek said:

I mean you get to keep your roll but its translated higher, I think thats a much more fair system and less a "lottery".

I understand what Saske said. And I'm not saying it's a bad thing, looks good to me.

I'm saying that this is not what Rebecca said. Re-rolling is not the same thing as a remap. A reroll is basically applying the same RNG formula to get another value.

If what is going to happen is a remap, they may want to clarify this on Rebecca's post or whatever, because this is conflicting information.

 

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2 minutes ago, Vit0Corleone said:

I'm saying that this is not what Rebecca said. Re-rolling is not the same thing as a remap. A reroll is basically applying the same RNG formula to get another value.

If what is going to happen is a remap, they may want to clarify this on Rebecca's post or whatever, because this is conflicting information.

You are correct. Which is why i made my post. I personally prefer a remap because, well, you can see why. I still think it is a more fair way of changing the stat ranges. If you rolled a garbage roll it shouldnt magically become a perfect roll. You will still get a far better reactor, but it will not be entirely RNG. I think it respects the time of people who played the content previously, and why would you not?

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12 minutes ago, Fallen77 said:

You rushed the grind of a very young update, before they could hotfix anything. You profited from the best stuff (at the time) before a majority of players. It's all on you.

Launch a satellite to laser etch this into the retinas of everyone that starts to play this game.

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3 minutes ago, xRufus7x said:

Welcome to Warframe where early adoption is always a risk and everything is subject to change at any time. From DE's perspective running a script for a reroll within the new ranges is far easier then one where they assign a weight to the current roles and then reroll them within equivelently weighted values. Unfortunately for you it is far more important to DE and the majority of the playerbase to get these adjustments out sooner then to stall it for the small minority of the playerbase that bothered to get high roles on subpar reactors. It is possible DE will give some sort of compensation in the form of something being added to our account, although if they are they haven't said anything yet, but the likelihood of you getting another perfect role is pretty small.

Yup, I know. But i have to try, you know? And it payed off, saske clarified. Apparently they are remapping so that is good news for me, other people may be upset by this though. I still think a remap is far more fair than a reroll.

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