Okami_Amaterasu Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) As you can see the new bow added in with the Kuva lich changes somehow made it's way into Conclave, complete with stats that make even the daikyu cry, along with a huge AOE. Anyone with this bow can just jump into a pub match and wreck the entire lobby. Video example - Keep in mind this was a private match. Not only that but dual swords and telos boltace are still 1 shotting on slide attacks, with the latter having an AOE ragdoll effect too. Edited February 5, 2020 by Okami_Shiranui 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Degu Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 DE, fix, plz. How did it even make it into conclave? Are you guys trying to just kill it or what? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Darth-Escar Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 The fact that it's a primary makes it extra bad too, because it can then be combed with dual swords or Telos Boltace. That means any opponents would have to position themselves pretty perfectly to defeat that. Conclave has many issues, but if just Kuva Bramma and Telos Boltace were removed, I'd be happy for a while. Bonus points for Staticor and the powerful slide attack weapons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scandroid Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, -Degu said: DE, fix, plz. How did it even make it into conclave? Are you guys trying to just kill it or what? its already dead wanted to see how many people got this figured out just now and thought i jump in a conclave mach guess what its empty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GameGhost123 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Yes this was definitely not thought out correctly by DE. Please fix asap 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okami_Amaterasu Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just now, Scandroid said: its already dead wanted to see how many people got this figured out just now and thought i jump in a conclave mach guess what its empty About 10 - 15 minutes ago I was in a near full lobby ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ What region were you searching in? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GameGhost123 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just now, Scandroid said: its already dead wanted to see how many people got this figured out just now and thought i jump in a conclave mach guess what its empty Conclave is not dead . I can log on everyday and find a match . You must be mistaken 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Quarky Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 This is a big oof. Please take a look at this and remove this weapon from conclave (or balance it ;D) This would be an excellent time to take a look at dual melees dealing absurd amounts of damage in conclave, as well, please and thank you! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sdaly96 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 I'm assuming he was in Oceania region, there are members of my clan that do conclave quite a bit. I do think that DE should at least have stats ready for pvp regardless of how many players. As long as a group play it, it should be at least patched 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevek7 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 What in the world??? How does this happen? DE we seriously need a single person on your team who at least remembers that conclave exists. Please understand: This is precisely the reason why your PvP population is small. You could attract a large PvP playerbase but not if you keep driving them away with this madness. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okami_Amaterasu Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, (PS4)sdaly96 said: I'm assuming he was in Oceania region, there are members of my clan that do conclave quite a bit. I do think that DE should at least have stats ready for pvp regardless of how many players. As long as a group play it, it should be at least patched Personally I play in both EU and NA regions, find lobbies there fairly often. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevek7 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 34 minutes ago, -Degu said: DE, fix, plz. How did it even make it into conclave? Are you guys trying to just kill it or what? Right, this is a fantastic way to drive away any remaining players who like PvP. I'm sure there are many people who were so close to leaving warframe entirely due to the dual sword and telos boltace stuff that will give up entirely when they get killed by 4k damage from an AOE weapon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Repo Man151 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) This kind of stuff is why I only play in private lobbies. It's literally a problem that can be solved by flagging the weapon as unusable in Conclave. It will take less than a minute of dev time to fix. Edited February 5, 2020 by (XB1)The Repo Man151 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Danish Chief Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 is ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Danish Chief Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, (XB1)The Repo Man151 said: This kind of stuff is why I only play in private lobbies. It's literally a problem that can be solved by flagging the weapon as unusable in Conclave. It will take less than a minute of dev time too fix. The numbers are manually put in, prove what you're saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevek7 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Fingers crossed this gets fixed soon before we lose another dozen players, and that loss justifies even less conclave fixes from the dev team. 😢 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormdragon Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, (XB1)Danish Chief said: The numbers are manually put in, prove what you're saying! It's probably just a line that reads something like "availableinpvp=1" that should be changed into "availableinpvp=0" and that's enough to disable any weapon in PvP. I can't remember the actual line that was shown by dataminers back in the day, but it doesn't really matter since still all it takes is changing a 1 to a 0 in order to disable stuff from pvp. About stats being dealt with manually (assuming that's what you were asking), that's also wrong since pvp weapon damage is calculated based on a multiplier from PvE stats, reason why most PvE buffs and nerfs end up carrying over to conclave. 1 hour ago, Okami_Shiranui said: As you can see the new bow added in with the Kuva lich changes somehow made it's way into Conclave, complete with stats that make even the daikyu cry, along with a huge AOE. Anyone with this bow can just jump into a pub match and wreck the entire lobby. No mention of it in the patchnotes and PvE stats make it look like a clear bug that should be fixed asap. Looks like private lobbies will be the way to go again for a while. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sdaly96 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stormdragon said: It's probably just a line that reads something like "availableinpvp=1" that should be changed into "availableinpvp=0" and that's enough to disable any weapon in PvP. I can't remember the actual line that was shown by dataminers back in the day, but it doesn't really matter since still all it takes is changing a 1 to a 0 in order to disable stuff from pvp. About stats being dealt with manually (assuming that's what you were asking), that's also wrong since pvp weapon damage is calculated based on a multiplier from PvE stats, reason why most PvE buffs and nerfs end up carrying over to conclave. No mention of it in the patchnotes and PvE stats make it look like a clear bug that should be fixed asap. Looks like private lobbies will be the way to go again for a while. Aye it could be a simple case of just 1 bit being the difference in code 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontrollo Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Just wanted to chime in and say: Hope this gets the Pennant treatment asap. The Old Blood messed it up enough, this weapon really should not stay enabled in the mode. 30 minutes ago, (XB1)Danish Chief said: The numbers are manually put in, prove what you're saying! Here's an old excerpt of an unrelated weapon from back when they weren't fond of data mining, but it was tolerated: ... RemovedWithOwnerAfterDrop=0 MarketMode=MM_VISIBLE PremiumPrice=225 LocalizeTag=/Lotus/Language/Items/FiveShotSniperRifleName LocalizeDescTag=/Lotus/Language/Items/FiveShotSniperRifleDesc IconTexture=/Lotus/Interface/Icons/Store/FiveShotSniper.png CompatibilityTags={ SNIPER_AMMO }AvailableOnPvp=1 UseGripOffset=1 ... All they have to do is set AvailableOnPvp to zero. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyers_of_facade Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 DE: we heard you complaining about melees being broken in conclave, so we figured a quick fix would be to make other things broken 🙂 if everything is broken, then nothing truly is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okami_Amaterasu Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 7 minutes ago, Leyers_of_facade said: DE: we heard you complaining about melees being broken in conclave, so we figured a quick fix would be to make other things broken 🙂 if everything is broken, then nothing truly is We MW2 now bois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neuroszima Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 are the other new Kuva weapons in Conclave? lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okami_Amaterasu Posted February 5, 2020 Author Share Posted February 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Neuroszima said: are the other new Kuva weapons in Conclave? lol It's just the nuke bow, nukor and hind aren't in (though if it was balanced right I'd like the kuva hind). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubbertubtub01 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 Why do DE hate us? They let unbalanced garbage leak into Conclave such as Melee, and just leave it. And now this bow, which from the video, seems to be even worse than Melee. I cannot think of a valid reason as to why DE are just leaving this SH!T in Conclave. The only thing I can think of at this point is that they must hate the PvP community. They must be just leaving this game breaking stuff in Conclave on purpose... At least give us an explanation as to why you're leaving this bullsh!t in Conclave... If you're gonna let it die I may as well just leave now and stop wasting my time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sdaly96 Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Rubbertubtub01 said: Why do DE hate us? They let unbalanced garbage leak into Conclave such as Melee, and just leave it. And now this bow, which from the video, seems to be even worse than Melee. I cannot think of a valid reason as to why DE are just leaving this SH!T in Conclave. The only thing I can think of at this point is that they must hate the PvP community. They must be just leaving this game breaking stuff in Conclave on purpose... At least give us an explanation as to why you're leaving this bullsh!t in Conclave... If you're gonna let it die I may as well just leave now and stop wasting my time... A lot of the main pvp players on ps4 sadly left after the Armistice was implemented. And they have a small team for pvp with it not even being their main focus (to my knowledge). They should include the design council and such more for that, surely they have some pvp players in it 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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