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It sucks, i only logged in then off since i finished Railjack (all veil nodes cleared and all good mods ) , so it's been 2 months. Today i played 1 whole hour of warframe, trying to see the kuva lich changes ... so basically the only improvement is that we can upgrade our bonuses, and see the weapon we will get, and i guess less rng on the ephemeras. 

As i tried to get the weapon i was LF, it reminded me of those bad unhealthy mobile gacha games, so i just rerun saturn capture until i get the weapon i want ... and i can possibly not get it even in 1 hour of doing a capture ? Wtf is that for, and that 100 kuva doesn't make my 2 minutes of me loading and doing the mission rewarding since i don't like/use rivens... nice 

Second, the murmures, so they didn't change them at all, the lich never spawns unless you are very lucky or you completed a requiem murmure, so you don't even have time to test the mods before you actually know them ... 

I alt f4'd , after 1 hour, i was also trying out old frames so it wasn't 1 hour of lich hunting, more like trying to enjoy the game again ? I couldn't. In 2 months they done nothing except fixing things that should have been delivered fixed  and balanced (mostly) in the first place.

Nightwave is basically worse old alerts at this point, it's been going for like 3 or 4 months, 0 rewards. 

A LOT of frames are trash tier, i tried

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Atlas : useless ,

Zephyr : passive sucks, only her 3 matters for not taking damage, 4 looks okay .. , 

Grendel : hate his look, uses too much energy, S#&$ gameplay

Banshee : too squishy, useless 

Valkyr : worse gauss at this point

Ash : good for solo, useful , average

loki : spam 2 machine

Excal : same old thing, press 2 then melee until they all die

Garuda : looks AMAZING to me ( fashion wise ) but is useless, none of her abilities make sense except her 2 ? maybe her 3 ? 

Baruuk : meh, not squishy, kinda okay ish, i don't enjoy playing him, too slow for me

Ember : still sucks after rework, she's tankier though... i guess 

Equinox : good old maim build not that useful in solo, enjoyed a full strength duration metamorphosis build, but that's just to be tanky and sleep enemies, might as well play chroma or inaros

Frost: he exists

Harrow: one of the few frames where you use all your abilities, pretty engaging, but too much hassle when you can be mesa press 4 and see better results

hildryn: tanky with double barrier, and that's it

Hydroid : he exists, useless in any non static mission

Inaros : tank god, that's it

Khora : pretty good frame overall

mag: squishy, too squishy , useless

mirage: only her 3 and 1 are useful, and her 3 relies on environment, that sucks, mirage sucks in any non simulacrum gameplay

Nezha: a god, really good, i enjoyed him the most out of all the frames that i played

Nidus: he doesn't die, he could get a rework though to be more versatile

Nyx: she can't die with augment, there's that

Oberon: too squishy, why play him when you can trinity

titania: idk, she has high dps i just don't like the gameplay much, archwing 2.0 

Vauban : still sucks after rework, you can perma cc enemies ... okay 

Wukong : they nerfed him too hard, he doesn't see play at all, he sucks

Why most of these frames suck ? Because enemy damage is too high, nowadays if you don't have a 90% DR ability you automatically suck, unless you have invisibility, and that's just a fact. Would love to see a warframe overhaul, all warframes get reworked if they don't fit in today's gameplay, for me the ones that fit have 90% +dr or some invsibility and damage : mesa, saryn (molt draws enemy fire) , octavia,chroma, inaros , gauss,wisp,trinity,nezha... that's it ? for me too many frames suck, at this point DE, either rework them all, or give them all 90% damage reduction on their useless ability. 

TLDR : lich farm still sucks, mobile gacha to get the weapon you like , murmures take too long to get, specially when you can play 1hour ish a week at most, a lot of frames who have good story, fashion , or design, or theme suck, you can't enjoy playing something that can't survive being hit by an enemy for more than 2 seconds. Railjack is just another island, nightwave is 3 or 4 months long ... now if something i said is wrong, i would like to know, apart from the enjoying the theme or fashion of a frame. 

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meh you know warframe won't get any better. just play monster hunter or path of exiles 

 

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il y a 1 minute, kevoisvevo a dit :

meh you know warframe won't get any better. just play monster hunter or path of exile

It can be better, whether they will make it be or not is the thing. Also i don't have time to play anything, that's why when i had time i tried to play warframe bcz i saw they did a lot of patches since last time i played ... but yeah all for nothing, thank god i only played that 1 hour in 2 months though, i can't imagine how much time people waste on nothing for hours a day , and i feel bad for the 1 hour i wasted 

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27 minutes ago, HatedByLifeItself said:

It can be better, whether they will make it be or not is the thing. Also i don't have time to play anything, that's why when i had time i tried to play warframe bcz i saw they did a lot of patches since last time i played ... but yeah all for nothing, thank god i only played that 1 hour in 2 months though, i can't imagine how much time people waste on nothing for hours a day , and i feel bad for the 1 hour i wasted 

DE does not exist to cater to one single player. I think things have been pretty good. Though they could do to listen to the incessant whining about features in the game LESS  (looking at you devs for removing being killed whe you fail at the mods to kill the lich)

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Well it is not balanced, it is bugged and some stuff is designed by people who probably never intended on playing through it themselves. It is not for everyone, but some can stick with it, just not you.

As far as I know warframe hit it's peak because of the content creator videos made by skillup and how attractive the showcasing of new content was.

But then enough people saw that the game has lasting serious issues and I believe the population is it's in the decline.

The switch release may have helped to stave off an overall decline.

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Your assessment is somewhat harsh and it holds some truth however that truth is covered in hyperbole so it hurts your message.

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So go make a clear and concise thread in the feedback section minus all the drivel that's here. Whats here is just a gamer having a whinge and by the looks of it a lot of PEBKAC to do with frames.

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hace 1 hora, HatedByLifeItself dijo:

Atlas : useless ,

 

hace 1 hora, HatedByLifeItself dijo:

Hydroid : he exists, useless in any non static mission

 

hace 1 hora, HatedByLifeItself dijo:

mag: squishy, too squishy , useless

 

hace 1 hora, HatedByLifeItself dijo:

Oberon: too squishy, why play him when you can trinity

 

hace 1 hora, HatedByLifeItself dijo:

Wukong : they nerfed him too hard, he doesn't see play at all, he sucks

/facepalm

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il y a 30 minutes, Redfeather75 a dit :

It is not for everyone, but some can stick with it, just not you.

Yeah. I'm not saying i am the whole player base, was just giving my opinion. 

 

il y a une heure, SpicyDinosaur a dit :

DE does not exist to cater to one single player.

I thought that most things i talked about could cater to the whole community, but i was wrong, apparently for a lot of people warframes are balanced and the gameplay is good, so it's all nice i guess. I don't really understand though how people can objectively look at Warframes and not think that most of them have just a better version (valkyr-gauss, oberon-trinity, mirage-chroma,etc ) and i don't know in what kind of content squishy warframes like mag and banshee can fit solo except the max level 45 star chart enemies.

 

il y a 25 minutes, AzureTerra a dit :

Whats here is just a gamer having a whinge and by the looks of it a lot of PEBKAC to do with frames.

I think there's a difference between complaining, and telling the reality of something, come on you can't tell me that you see Zephyrs everywhere when you play, or mags or hydroids or baruuks ... 

Also i don't consider myself a gamer, i only play a max of 10min/week , i like to read patch notes for some reason though.

il y a 25 minutes, Proffebolter a dit :

/facepalm

 

Atlas has his 1 to punch , ( melees are better) , he's squishy for lvl 90+ enemies, and his wall is only useful in index

Hydroid : only his 4 is useful, but it doesn't stack with khora's 4 for the loot, and khora is a better frame overall, so if you play hydroid ... why not play khora ? (if you like his theme, okay, but don't tell me he's good because he has a nice theme) 

mag : take mag into a t3 sortie, and try to not die, tell me about it, why play mag when you can mesa,octavia or saryn or chroma ? 0 reason (if you like her theme or how she looks, okay but she's still objectively trash) 

oberon: he's a worse wisp, a worse trinity, uses too much energy, and his status removal from his 2 is near useless unless you doing eidolons or defense/mobile defense, then again trinity or wisp are better, also nezha's 1 can clear status just from him running around ... yeah

wukong: he has his clone ? his 4 is worse than a melee, he can become tanky ? that's it ? why don't you try out chroma ? or rhino ? i wonder

Anyway i won't respond any further i don't come to forums often lately, but i see that people still like defending DE, i wonder why all the other games are getting better but not this one ... maybe it's cuzz the playerbase doesn't care enough and just say " thank you " every patch. Brb, imma take a quick 6 month break xD

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How many times have you used the word "tanky"? 

 

"Tanky" is a term bad players use to make excuses for their bad reflexes and lack of game knowledge.

1 hour per week of game time? Do you have 6 kids? Either way it's not our problem.

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Gr8 B8, don't like it and just want to complain? Well the answer is go play something else, this clearly isn't your thing anymore if at all. Especially with the warframes...you likely hardly know how to build and use each one to the best of their abilities. Thats alot of warframes you listed and claim to be bad, thats how I know you just want to complain. If you want things to change though, give a clear concise explanation of why and what you think needs changing, and post it in feedback. I'm a huge fan of how you ended this though after you make a bunch baseless and S#&$ty remarks to not only the game, but the community as well. Stand up individual we got here folks.

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2 hours ago, HatedByLifeItself said:

Nightwave is basically worse old alerts at this point, it's been going for like 3 or 4 months, 0 rewards

Yeah because alerts had good rewards, right? And you could do them anytime. 

 

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2 hours ago, HatedByLifeItself said:

It sucks, i only logged in then off since i finished Railjack (all veil nodes cleared and all good mods ) , so it's been 2 months. Today i played 1 whole hour of warframe, trying to see the kuva lich changes ... so basically the only improvement is that we can upgrade our bonuses, and see the weapon we will get, and i guess less rng on the ephemeras. 

As i tried to get the weapon i was LF, it reminded me of those bad unhealthy mobile gacha games, so i just rerun saturn capture until i get the weapon i want ... and i can possibly not get it even in 1 hour of doing a capture ? Wtf is that for, and that 100 kuva doesn't make my 2 minutes of me loading and doing the mission rewarding since i don't like/use rivens... nice 

Second, the murmures, so they didn't change them at all, the lich never spawns unless you are very lucky or you completed a requiem murmure, so you don't even have time to test the mods before you actually know them ... 

I alt f4'd , after 1 hour, i was also trying out old frames so it wasn't 1 hour of lich hunting, more like trying to enjoy the game again ? I couldn't. In 2 months they done nothing except fixing things that should have been delivered fixed  and balanced (mostly) in the first place.

Nightwave is basically worse old alerts at this point, it's been going for like 3 or 4 months, 0 rewards. 

A LOT of frames are trash tier, i tried

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Atlas : useless ,

Zephyr : passive sucks, only her 3 matters for not taking damage, 4 looks okay .. , 

Grendel : hate his look, uses too much energy, S#&$ gameplay

Banshee : too squishy, useless 

Valkyr : worse gauss at this point

Ash : good for solo, useful , average

loki : spam 2 machine

Excal : same old thing, press 2 then melee until they all die

Garuda : looks AMAZING to me ( fashion wise ) but is useless, none of her abilities make sense except her 2 ? maybe her 3 ? 

Baruuk : meh, not squishy, kinda okay ish, i don't enjoy playing him, too slow for me

Ember : still sucks after rework, she's tankier though... i guess 

Equinox : good old maim build not that useful in solo, enjoyed a full strength duration metamorphosis build, but that's just to be tanky and sleep enemies, might as well play chroma or inaros

Frost: he exists

Harrow: one of the few frames where you use all your abilities, pretty engaging, but too much hassle when you can be mesa press 4 and see better results

hildryn: tanky with double barrier, and that's it

Hydroid : he exists, useless in any non static mission

Inaros : tank god, that's it

Khora : pretty good frame overall

mag: squishy, too squishy , useless

mirage: only her 3 and 1 are useful, and her 3 relies on environment, that sucks, mirage sucks in any non simulacrum gameplay

Nezha: a god, really good, i enjoyed him the most out of all the frames that i played

Nidus: he doesn't die, he could get a rework though to be more versatile

Nyx: she can't die with augment, there's that

Oberon: too squishy, why play him when you can trinity

titania: idk, she has high dps i just don't like the gameplay much, archwing 2.0 

Vauban : still sucks after rework, you can perma cc enemies ... okay 

Wukong : they nerfed him too hard, he doesn't see play at all, he sucks

Why most of these frames suck ? Because enemy damage is too high, nowadays if you don't have a 90% DR ability you automatically suck, unless you have invisibility, and that's just a fact. Would love to see a warframe overhaul, all warframes get reworked if they don't fit in today's gameplay, for me the ones that fit have 90% +dr or some invsibility and damage : mesa, saryn (molt draws enemy fire) , octavia,chroma, inaros , gauss,wisp,trinity,nezha... that's it ? for me too many frames suck, at this point DE, either rework them all, or give them all 90% damage reduction on their useless ability. 

TLDR : lich farm still sucks, mobile gacha to get the weapon you like , murmures take too long to get, specially when you can play 1hour ish a week at most, a lot of frames who have good story, fashion , or design, or theme suck, you can't enjoy playing something that can't survive being hit by an enemy for more than 2 seconds. Railjack is just another island, nightwave is 3 or 4 months long ... now if something i said is wrong, i would like to know, apart from the enjoying the theme or fashion of a frame. 

show me the player that thinks warframe is tough, I'll show you a toddler.

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It’s so nice to see when people call frames trash because they cannot make normal build and dying while facerolling enemies with Banshee. I can agree that somehow game has some problems, but any critique from such whining person won’t be considered seriously at all. Go take Inaros, Gram Prime and play sorties and arbitrations as most clever guy, leave liches for other low skill players.

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27 minutes ago, SpiritTeA said:

leave liches for other low skill players.

Lol, mindless grind doesn't need any skill! The only skill I would argue is to not get bored to death and learn to grind eternally!

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You feeling better ?

Now, nobody forces you to play the game. You obviously decided that you don't like the game at this point, go play something else, for your own health.

What did you even expect out of a single update ? That the entire game would have change completely ?

It's not like if you're a long gone veteran coming back after years, you're just making a thread to tell everyone "I'm quitting facebook again !" 2 months after you quit the game because it's not going the way you'd want it to

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3 hours ago, HatedByLifeItself said:

so i just rerun saturn capture until i get the weapon i want ... and i can possibly not get it even in 1 hour of doing a capture ?

There's a pitfall the game never tells you about: Liches can't have the same weapon twice in a row. If the lich you spawned last time had weapon X, you can't get weapon X again on a larvling, you have to do a different weapon first. This only applies to liches you spawned yourself, traded ones are not affected by and have no effect on this restriction.

3 hours ago, HatedByLifeItself said:

the lich never spawns unless you are very lucky or you completed a requiem murmure, so you don't even have time to test the mods before you actually know them ... 

There'a a pitfall the game never tells you about: Liches will not gain anger and cannot spawn in missions they don't control. If the mission vote says "(your lich's name) controlled territory", it's a mission your lich owns and you will get anger progress and a chance for the lich to spawn. If it just says "kuva lich controlled territory", it's not one of your lich's nodes, and while you will still gain murmurs, your lich will not gain any anger and cannot spawn in that mission.

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32 минуты назад, --C--Nehra сказал:

Lol, mindless grind doesn't need any skill! The only skill I would argue is to not get bored to death and learn to grind eternally!

It was sarcasm for guy who think that Inaros is the best (and almost only playable) frame 

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It is a bait... He spent more time in this post talking about how S#&$ Warframe is than playing it. Butthurt. I get it though that venting it in a post might help.

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4 hours ago, SpicyDinosaur said:

removing being killed whe you fail at the mods to kill the lich

Ah yes, because dying to a slot machine was so enthralling.

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2 hours ago, HatedByLifeItself said:

wukong: he has his clone ? his 4 is worse than a melee, he can become tanky ? that's it ? why don't you try out chroma ? or rhino ? i wonder

Wukong is easily one of the most powerful frames on the game

How many other frames can upgrade the Arca Plasmor into the Dual Arca Plasmor? How many other frames can spam slide attacks and shoot guns at the same exact time?

Cloud Walker is amazing, a cheap full heal that staggers all enemies and cheeses Spy missions. Defy is the best absorbing power in the game AND gives him 90% damage reduction.

I was giving you the benefit of the doubt that this thread was just bait, but you had to ruin it with absurd levels of ignorance

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