Primed Chamber's Return

[Almagnus1]

Just now, Fader- said:

Yes it should, otherwise you don't respect the money someone spent on the mod through these years.

Anyone that spent that much money on a mod that is basically a status symbol should feel bad cause that was a huge waste of their money.

Just now, Fader- said:

It doesn't make it wrong that some people got affected, gotcha. Lol.

It's not wrong to waste platinum in this game.  I can't help it if they have buyers remorse now because they grossly overpaid for a mod that only had that value because DE never brought it back earlier.

Just now, Fader- said:

The best option De could've done was not do any damage and keep it exclusive, but ok , you do you.

No, they should have fulfilled their promises earlier before that mod had a chance to inflate as much as it did.

[Aldain]

4 minutes ago, Fader- said:

Yes it should, otherwise you don't respect the money someone spent on the mod through these years.

Apparently with the amounts of plat people were spending on this mod most owners likely didn't even respect themselves enough to question if it was worth it.

I won't respect a car collector for owning 30 short print cars any more than I would respect somebody for spending money on a rare stamp as a stamp collector.

Spending money isn't a qualifier for respect, nor is money itself something to respect.

Edited February 15, 2020 by Aldain

[Fader-]

Just now, Aldain said:

Apparently with the amounts of plat people were spending on this mod most owners likely didn't even respect themselves enough to question if it was worth it.

I don't care how many cars a person owns, I won't respect a car collector for owning 30 short print cars any more than I would respect somebody for spending money on a rare stamp as a stamp collector.

Spending money isn't a qualifier for respect, nor is money itself something to respect.

Nice mental gymnnastics, but It's obvious that by ''respect'' I mean DE taking in consideration the value of the mod and the people that have invested it.

[Chicken-Biryani]

It's clear now who has induldged in juggling this mod for plat by the dedicated whining going on through the hands of some special folks. DE said it's gonna be back, and it's back. Enough said. 🙂

Edited February 15, 2020 by --C--Nehra

[(PSN)Hiero_Glyph]

30 minutes ago, Fader- said:

The context suggest for the second option. Have these 100k players paid the same ammount of money for this mod than the 500 players that own it?

Perceived only? No investing value? Wow i though people actually paid a lot of platinum for these mods, I guess I was wrong *wink wink*

 

A niche mod for vectis? Lol. Wow I'm thankful these people just got the middle finger just so I can enjoy a ducat-overpriced mod that I won't use at all or ever.

You are not giving much value to the people that spent money into this mod. So yeah, I agree you are entitled and you have to work on that department.

So if I spend money in warframe then DE should value me more? Thankfully I have supported DE as have tens of thousands of other players. Or are you still suggesting that your money is better than my money?

And let's not be ignorant as all traded plat is purchased by someone but not necessarily the person trading it. There are plenty of players with tens of thousands of plat that did not purchase the vast majority of it.

Edited February 15, 2020 by (PS4)Hiero_Glyph

[Marvelous_A]

It's not Excalibur Prime. DE didn't say it will never return as a common item. Get over it.

[More-L]

My main issue with this? DE took too long to do it. They should have never kept a mod with any power benefit an exclusive for any decent length of time (over 1 year.) But now that it was in Baro, at least DE are finally over this stupid situation and can know to never do something similar ever again in the future.

Good on DE for finally re-releasing it, bad on DE for waiting so long.

[Fader-]

2 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said:

Anyone that spent that much money on a mod that is basically a status symbol should feel bad cause that was a huge waste of their money.

No deny in that.

 

2 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said:

It's not wrong to waste platinum in this game. 

 

Totally it's not, DE seems ok with you wasting it.

2 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said:

 

I can't help it if they have buyers remorse now because they grossly overpaid for a mod that only had that value because DE never brought it back earlier.

there wouldn't be ''buyers remorse'' if DE handled it properly, ( or not handle anything at all)

 

2 minutes ago, Almagnus1 said:

No, they should have fulfilled their promises earlier before that mod had a chance to inflate as much as it did.

That'd be the best option on that time, but right now the best they could've done is not do anything at all.

[(NSW)Katsuro]

the levels of salt and toxic elitism is at a all time high damn

[Alpha_Tango]

I don't get what the fuss is all about, i bought one and unceremoniusly sold another. 

I am happy to get one and even before I collect Sigma & Octantis, my only missing item. 

Im far too jaded with promised rarities from playing other games (e.g.WoT). At least, we can get it with in game currency. Greedy ones will just tie a ribbon on to it and give it a hefty price tag.

[Fader-]

5 minutes ago, (PS4)Hiero_Glyph said:

So if I spend money in warframe then DE should value me more? Thankfully I have supported DE as have tens of thousands of other players. Or are you still suggesting that your money is better than my money?

If you let an item be ridiculously expensive then you should take in consideration the investment the buyer made instead of putting his money and time he put into the waste because ''ex dee some niche community whined about wanting to  have a niche mod they didn't pay forrr free haahaaa''

 

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And let's not be ignorant as all traded plat is purchased by someone but not necessarily the person trading it. There are plenty of players with tens of thousands of plat that did not purchase the vast majority of it.

Oh they traded with black market plat? jk, they totally didn't put any effort in to get any of that plat by trading. Yeah, i could make 50k plat in 1 week br0!

Edited February 15, 2020 by Fader-
gramerzzz

[(PSN)Hiero_Glyph]

3 minutes ago, More-L said:

My main issue with this? DE took too long to do it. They should have never kept a mod with any power benefit an exclusive for any decent length of time (over 1 year.) But now that it was in Baro, at least DE are finally over this stupid situation and can know to never do something similar ever again in the future.

Good on DE for finally re-releasing it, bad on DE for waiting so long.

Warframe is built on a history of neglect. DE will probably get to it eventually, but it takes years longer than it should. Take the removal of kubrow/kavat stasis as an example of something that was promised several years ago and still hasn't been provided. If they actually had a plan then most of these issues would be entirely avoided.

[LeonardBlyx]

No one takes into account that some people exclusively enjoyed this mod over 5 years instead of commoners only getting it today. There is your privilege. For at least 4 years it is continually announced that primed chamber will appear again and some people deliberately choose paying quite a bit of plats/money for an "early access". And now it is released. Some people paid for the early access and they had their early access. They were fully aware, at their time of purchase, that this mod will be released in the future. What's this frustrated attitude now?

[Chicken-Biryani]

2 minutes ago, LeonardBlyx said:

What's this frustrated attitude now?

Their flex is gone. What will happen to their ego now! OMG! How dare DE! Etc. Etc. 

It's hilarious tho. DE did omegatroll on this one. 😂

[Avenaki]

40 minutes ago, Fader- said:

Yes it should, otherwise you don't respect the money someone spent on the mod through these years.

Yeah, clearly we won't agree here. And we'll just bounce back and forth, and each claiming 'personal reason here', I won't bother. Or so I thought! What someone chose to spend money/plat on, especially on something that was given away for free and just, by chance, happened to have not come around is their choice, there's nothing to respect here.

40 minutes ago, Fader- said:

Nice contradiction by the way.

My bad, what I had meant to place was 'A rare mod that just happened to come around once'. Piss poor defense on your behalf, though.

40 minutes ago, Fader- said:

'I said it because I said so'' Understood.

Think you meant, 'It's so because I said so'. Can see what you're saying, but them choosing to do something now, rather than sooner or later, is nothing to pass judgement on.

40 minutes ago, Fader- said:

It doesn't make it wrong that some people got affected, gotcha. Lol.

Yes, it doesn't. People made decisions with the knowledge that they had at the time and bought/sold something that was heavily priced for the reason of simple rarity. They/you can feel wronged, it still does not make it wrong. It's like *@##$ing about how you bought something last week that's now on sale this week. That's just life, and just like life in this situation, there are no returns. Sorry.

40 minutes ago, Fader- said:

What damage exactly? A niche part of the community that hasn't put money in the mod being entitled to get it easily? Surely that's a big damage compared to spending insane ammounts of money worth on plat to acquire this mod only to realise it's value it's close to nothing currently. Yeah, brilliant comparison.

Sorry, I figured you'd know since you first provided the context for 'damage' in response to one of my previous posts, but I guess you just can't follow even your own arguments.. The damage I was referring to those that bought it at an extraordinary, inane price. So no, I was not referring to those who had yet to get it, but to those who had yet to acquire or take advantage of it. My argument was that the whole reason there is any damage is because it was allowed to be semi-exclusive which allowed the overinflated prices to grow and continue.

40 minutes ago, Fader- said:

The best option De could've done was not do any damage and keep it exclusive, but ok , you do you.

Can't agree here, but ok, you do you.

40 minutes ago, Fader- said:

Ugh. Something irrelevant.

Well I concede, I don't really need to make you or anyone see reason. You don't want to see what you don't want to see, so I'll let it go. I apologize for egging you on. Have a good night, man.

Edited February 15, 2020 by Avenaki

[Fiddlestixxx]

10 hours ago, HugintheCrow said:

I can and I am doing it right now. It's literally 100% luck  and your parents' money. Just like the entire rest of capitalism.

I'm sorry to the community for going so far off topic but this needs to be called out hard. You have no idea what capitalism is. I hope you learn what it is instead of vilifying it for your own lacking. Read some biographies and rags to riches stories. Stop blaming others for what you don't have. Many have swallowed their pride, learned from mistakes, educated themselves, bettered themselves, and focused on a huge goal and got it. Many born into money lose it all because they did not develop themselves or learn the skills of making and properly using money. Many without money learn how to offer so much tremendous value that people want to throw money at them and make them wealthy.

So much ignorant, parroted hate for capitalism in these times.  There are a lot of bad capitalists, sure. But there's LOTS and LOTS of bad socialists (again, read some stories; some history!). Life is hard, but it would be a hell of a lot harder if you were having to chase down your own food and running from things that wanted to eat you. You have capitalism to thank for that just as much as socialism. Probably more, honestly.

[Trowicia]

2 hours ago, Sapphirya said:

This entire thread is comedy gold, and again this image finds yet another use.

 

And as someone who owns the Tethra's Doom quantum emblem: I wouldn't care if they re-released it and allowed players to get another chance at it. You know why? Because I used the emblem for years and enjoyed it for all that time, and allowing other players who think the emblem looks great to get a chance at obtaining it doesn't magically remove my years of enjoying it.

This.

Some of the event emblems that hasn't been re-released yet are in my possession and truthfully I couldn't give a skoom's clem if they redistro'd it to Baro or some other occurrence in-game.

I don't base my worth off of "exclusive" collections or mementos. I base it off of my actions and life accomplishments.

I digress though. I've been lurking this thread ever since my first post and I've been consuming all the salt, so thanks for that Valentine's Day gift.

Edited February 15, 2020 by Trowicia
spelling fixes, im intoxicated from sodium chloride consumption

[SoulEchelon]

3 hours ago, Fader- said:

Basing your argument around DE promising something is just laughable.

Not even sure what you're trying to say here. I mean, they "promised" Primed Chamber was going to come back. And that "promise" was fulfilled. So....what's there to laugh at? I was right. Lol.

[Kurogumihime]

God damn, this thread is still at it? The salt is just extremely real.

[Fader-]

23 minutes ago, SoulEchelon said:

Not even sure what you're trying to say here. I mean, they "promised" Primed Chamber was going to come back. And that "promise" was fulfilled. So....what's there to laugh at? I was right. Lol.

They don't consistently comply with what they promise. There's a chance they won't deliver it. I can be wrong though, maybe ALL those promises they said they were going to implement ''in time'' will finally be implemented the next 2-3-5 years, just like theysurprisingly made this change 7 years after.

Edited February 15, 2020 by Fader-
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[Zyion]

Primed Chamber was only considered decent when it first came out. Now that Rivens exist, it is practically hot garbage. Only one weapon in the game actually benefits from it, and that is a dubious benefit when you can get much better Riven mods with considerably less grind. To make Primed Chamber a reward for an event that you have to be the top 100 out millions of players is downright insulting. It's like giving Olympic gold medalists a sweaty, used jock strap for being the best of the best. Hell, the price that Baro is selling Primed Chamber at is honestly insulting. You'd have an easier time farming 200 plat for its current going rate than farming the 2995 ducats.

As far as the collector's appeal goes, it's never a good idea to spend allot of money on collector's items in online games when you have no real ownership over the things you purchase. DE can, at any time, deny you access to your purchases either through banning or discontinuing the game. Anyone who purchased Primed Chamber for tens of thousands of plat just made a bad purchase and now have to live with those consequences.

Edited February 15, 2020 by Zyion

[Fader-]

1 minute ago, Avenaki said:

Yeah, clearly we won't agree here. And we'll just bounce back and forth, and each claiming 'personal reason here', I won't bother. What someone chose to spend money/plat on, especially something that was given away for free and just, by chance, happened to have not come around is their choice, there's nothing to respect here.

Yeah there's nothing to respect, that was a poor wording of mine. What I meant by 'respect' was DE taking in consideration the ammount of platinum and money put by these players before making such a poor and careless desicion.

 

1 minute ago, Avenaki said:

but them choosing to do something now, rather than sooner or later, is nothing to pass judgement on.

Didn't you say DE could've handled it better by adressing it sooner?

 

1 minute ago, Avenaki said:

Yes, it doesn't. People made decisions with the knowledge that they had at the time and bought/sold something that was heavily priced for the reason of simple rarity. They/you can feel wronged, it still does not make it wrong.It's like *@##$ing about how you bought something last week that's now on sale this week. That's just life, and just like life in this situation, there are no returns. Sorry.

Life you say? DE had complete control over whether or not they could make this desicion. 

 

1 minute ago, Avenaki said:

So no, I was not referring to those who had yet to get it, but to those who had yet to acquire or take advantage of it.

What do you mean by that? Using the mod itself in the game or using it for trading purposes?

1 minute ago, Avenaki said:

My argument was that the whole reason there is any damage is because it was allowed to be semi-exclusive which allowed the overinflated prices to grow and continue.

 

I still fail to understand why you think a semi-exclusive item having a high price is worse compared to a group of people suddenly losing 100k-400k worth of plat value

[taiiat]

yes, such an item could and very likely should have been attributed t something more... longterm and interesting, rather than just a handout.
i know, handouts are popular in Warframe, because Players don't want to play the game - but it also means that the reintroduction of this sort of ""legendary"" item drives almost nothing in sales and doesn't add any meaningful content to the game.

in essence, completely wasted from a Business perspective. 

 

 

not to mention the no shortage of people that can't into math and that both Charged and Primed Chamber have always been compelling Mods, and with the advent of Rivens becoming only even better. but why would we use math when it only drives our entire world.

unfortunately, the toxic 99% of the Playerbase for this game would always do anything possible within their power to ensure that potential content ultimately has the least possible potential and adds the least possible content.

Edited February 15, 2020 by taiiat

[SolarDwagon]

1 hour ago, More-L said:

My main issue with this? DE took too long to do it. They should have never kept a mod with any power benefit an exclusive for any decent length of time (over 1 year.) But now that it was in Baro, at least DE are finally over this stupid situation and can know to never do something similar ever again in the future.

Good on DE for finally re-releasing it, bad on DE for waiting so long.

Now I'm looking forward to see how they crash the overinflated riven market.... 😈
But yeah, they should have done this earlier. Much earlier.

[Maxyall]

The wailing of the plat mafias is a music to my ears~

 

DE shouldn't have to be considerate of minority making poor decisions. It's not their problem if 0.01 percent of their player like to spill their wallet for bragging right. Yeah I said it. Cry away.