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Just now, Alhalor said:

now that i'm thinking i don't get it

 

1 minute ago, Alhalor said:

i love the story its a really good one

Huh? You don't get it but it's really good? What?

Personally I don't care about the story at all. I ignore basically all of it. Playing for the loot / gameplay.

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18 minutes ago, Alhalor said:

well thats one reason for playing the game, but there must be something more to it, because... why this one? why warframe? there are tons of loot games out there?

Nah that's pretty much it. Along with updates to keep adding more content to get. I also never stated Warframe is the only "loot game" I play, lol. For example, I play Destiny 2 as well. 

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A main problem of wf's story is that important parts are missing in the game itself, because these parts were past events like sling-stone, gradivus dilemma, cicero crisis, etc. they are not metioned in any form ingame and have to be looked up at 3rd parties.
What i like is that beside the player, alad v is a main actor in the whole lore, causeing troube and interference from the start until now. 

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i have my own headcanon on the story so far TBH.

i think we are only just scratching the surface of whats going on in the origin system.... we are still children afterall (granted eternal void demon children, but children still).

my main thought is the lotus, is not Natah.
Natah was an infiltrator during old war who usurped the tenno and turned them against the orokin, however... ballas intercepted Natah due to his dealings with Hunhow and then the brainwashing began (he thought he turned natah to control the tenno against the orokin, but she was using him all along... then controlled the tenno and ballas alike with the image of marguilis).
the tenno were already utilised at this point, as we found out in the sacrfice.
the lotus (flower) was already a part of the aesthetic of the warframe project, with the somatic pods being in lotus blossom shapes, in the internal lakes of luna (Era quest, and lua ruins), the specialist tenno equipment being market with the lotus symbol and the warframes themselves having hints at the iconography.

i think we will find out soon with the new war opening up, that the lotus project was highjacked by ballas, through natah to control the void demons that the zariman 10-0 experiment brought back.
in order to free ballas from his lords of the council, so he was sole executor of the orokin will.
i dont think the grineer queens are actually "royal" orokin, rather lower teir orokin survivors who had control of the grineer army, which was modified from the clone colonist/builders in order to support the dax troops in the sentient war. hence why they know of kuva and how continuity and transferrence works, but dont fully understand kuva like ballas would have.

on that subject, what is kuva? i think we will find out more about this as we venture further into the past with railjack... we know its the old blood... but the old blood of what, or whom?
is it linked to the hairy toe in out ship? will the relicquary drive hold the truth of the orokin secrets? given that we get the white roots from the contents of our relic drive, the same as we have from our operator soma chair, the same as what is the core of orokin buildings like lua and the towers.

and again, this ties in with the lotus symbology, as the lotus is tethered into the muck by grasping roots similar to the ones from our relic drive and soma chair, the lotus emerges as a beatuful flower with no sign of the filth in which it grows from.
the perfect analogy for transcendence.
our frames are made from the flesh of mankind, fused with the mutation of sentient (as in real world terms not game terms) space cancer, tamed by the use of an unknown energy channeled from another dimention, which only a few "survivors" of a project that by orokin records did not have them aboard despite being a colonising ship(we still dont know if the kids were born on the zariman, or created from the void and sent back to real space as envoys, experiments or weapons).

and then we have the corpus, which we are going to find out about in coming events. but from what we know they were the business side of the orokin, the beurocrats and traders.....the body of the empire (hence corpus). salvaging what knowledge of tech they could hold onto (the other meaning of corpus) post collapse to create the system wide network of greed and corruption that we see in the system now, but without the advanced knowledge of the old blood and biotech of the orokin that the grineer held.

BUT that is just what my sci fi fuelled brain makes of the story so far. if its right only time will tell 🙂
what we do know as told by Ballas however is that the sentients have been planning this invasion for countless generations and the Lotus/Natah has been using us tenno to divide the systems factions and cripple miliatary power so that there is no defence like there was previously.
i think we will see our tenno breaking past the brainwashing of the lotus, remembering the oild war and how we fought for, then turned on the orkin, and who was in control of us by that point.

i have enjoyed the story (if you couldnt tell) but feel the infested are deserving of a deeper dive with more lore past arlo, and TBH are the secret sleeper faction for lore in the game, as they are free real estate for background. the helminth virus could open up so much more with possible lore regartding the old ones and the void also. 

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well by writing i dont get it, i mean the concept behind the design of story...you can get so strong that you become unkillable, move fast and hit stong literally become a god in this universe, i mean c'mon we got a soundtrack named, this is what you are, but beeing a god very soon becomes borring and feels like a chore.. or homework for example like the daily sorties or the new prime warframe comes out and have to forma it etc.... well i have been playing for a year on and off and reason is the concept of me and my will ---->operator--->warframe in a good story. and this a good story so far but  Im just wondering have they digged deeper into that concept? i mean Railjack is cool and all, it helps to kinda reset the godmode withe the new frame i mean my railjack is the new warframe that i have to upgrade in order to proceed deeper into the story, right?

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As the Tenno become more and more aware of the past some things become clear if looked from a bit further away...

[recap]Once upon a time, the Sentients of Tau came to the conclusion that the Orokin would eventually replicate the consequences of their greed in the Tau system and thus began a galactic war... the Orokin on the brink of destruction "create" the Tenno/warframe weapon and push back the Sentients but not before Hunhow's daughter Natah/Lotus infiltrates. Forward a few years, and the Tenno, with or without the Lotus, turn on the Orokin effectively eradicating them...[end of recap]

It seems to me that Tenno and Sentients are either natural or circumstantial ALLIES with the only question remaining being whether it was Lotus that succeeded in carrying out her mission by using the Tenno instead of killing them or the Tenno themselves ended up aligning their goals with those of Hunhow (still assuming that it was a war instigated to protect Tau and not a more common type of war* ie conquest of Sol or good old revenge).

Dear ol'Lotus is back with pops and she remembers more than the Tenno do apparently. Did she tell Hunhow what happened to the Orokin at the hands of the diminutive void demons? Why are the Senties still coming for blood?

*From the little I've heard from Hunhow and baby boy, they don't sound like the sort of people that "just want to protect their pristine homeland". It might just be me but there seems to be some blood lust/ resentment in their expression.

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Hunhow already knows what the tenno did to the orokin, that's how he has control of stalker. 

Stalker is a remnant of that time. 

A tenno without a body, a revenant fuelled by vengeance for a crime we committed against our own people. 

Maybe he and his acolytes were a last ditch effort by the orokin Council to gain revenge against the tenno, forced transference into the warframes like was done with Titania (though that was accidental). 

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11 hours ago, Dekoser said:

A main problem of wf's story is that important parts are missing in the game itself, because these parts were past events like sling-stone, gradivus dilemma, cicero crisis, etc. they are not metioned in any form ingame and have to be looked up at 3rd parties.
What i like is that beside the player, alad v is a main actor in the whole lore, causeing troube and interference from the start until now. 

i wouldnt really call Sling-Stone, Gradivus Dilemma, and Cicero Crisis important parts of the story, as their story doesn't really impact the current state of the game.

The Tubemen of Regor, on the other hand....

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The story is shards of history and we're rediscovering it a little too slowly and incompletely for my taste. I'd like to get a clear presentation. 

What I think would be cool would be a linkup of cinematics from quests wev'e completed, maybe even with unlockable narration cinematic inserts, or something. Like a video-journel of sorts. The Codex on steroids.

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37 minutes ago, Canach said:

The story is shards of history and we're rediscovering it a little too slowly and incompletely for my taste. I'd like to get a clear presentation. 

That presupposes that there is one. I have always felt there is more than a little "Make-It-Up-As-We-Go-Along" at work. that is to say tehat DE had to leave enough "room" int eh story to add future quests and game content. Too much definitive story locks out potential content. I got the same feeling during the last season and a half of the Battlestar Galactica reboot, which the writers later admitted they hadn't actually fleshed out before they got there.

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