Skaleek Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ham_Grenabe said: Oh, yeah, total thought-experiment/pipe-dream. In truth, it always goes like this: we get mad, then we get over it. On the other hand, with some of the genuinely questionable changes in the update, they may find their stats demonstrate a sort of passive "boycotting" of certain things because they're just a pain in the behind (like all the weapons that now have stagger effects, or weapons that got hit hard by the status changes -- use numbers may drop noticeably). Most of my long time player friends stopped playing after liches. Thats as close to boycott metrics as I can think of. I personally just see this patch as: Gotta go reforma my shotguns (i dont have any forma anymore), and gotta go farm more arcanes. Gotta get a new conclave skin, gotta go get the new codex scans. Also, clearly they're gonna have to do something about explosive weapons. Edited March 5, 2020 by Skaleek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)uknowthisguy Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 We have to find a way to let DE know that this is not okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine027 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 vor 11 Minuten schrieb (XB1)uknowthisguy: That's so stupid, people have invested THOUSANDS of plat and HOURS of playtime to get their energize up to what it is now, but who cares I guess? Who cares that the ONE ARCANE we cared about just got nerfed into the ground, who cares that the devs are pushing people away with every update they add, WHO CARES? Honestly, this is standard, why is is DE's fault people wanting to maximze things at all costs, paying ridiclious amounts to get the last bit of power out of weapons or warframes, Rivens are the exact same, i never cared for Rivens and Arcances, sure use them when i have them but never farmed them or rolled them into ridiclious amounts, people should learn that the game has never any endgame where you even need this maximization. Ignore it that it exists and enjoy the game for its gameplay since lore and story is meeh sadly, not happy with it, leave or critic them for it, but for the right reasons not because someone felt butthurt over paying hige amounts which is there own fault for believing it stays that way forever, i mean look at primed chamber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 vor 17 Minuten schrieb Fire2box: cooldown is likely the same for all ranks. 15 seconds does sound like something DE would do though. even 10 sec would kill it. 15 sec make it horrible trash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Battle.Mage said: even 10 sec would kill it. 15 sec make it horrible trash If it is true and it has 15 seconds cooldown, with the speed of this game you only get a 60% chance every 15 seconds and energy orbs are RNG garbo drops.. yeah..100% trash. Edited March 5, 2020 by (XB1)YoungGunn82 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 Yeah confirmed, it is a 15 sec cooldown. No duration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 vor 3 Minuten schrieb (XB1)YoungGunn82: If it is true and it has 15 seconds cooldown, with the speed of this game you only get a 60% chance every 15 seconds and energy orbs are RNG garbo drops.. yeah..100% trash. and its unclear how cooldown works. is there cooldown if you you dont get energy from first orb? if yes... oh dear 🤦♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackHargreav Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Let the crying begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Battle.Mage said: and its unclear how cooldown works. is there cooldown if you you dont get energy from first orb? if yes... oh dear 🤦♂️ So as soon as you get energy there is a 15 sec cool down, but the enrgey is instant no duration as far as I can tell. Tac potatoes just tested it. Edited March 5, 2020 by (XB1)YoungGunn82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Gerade eben schrieb JackHargreav: Let the crying begin. feedback != what ever you wrote 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Sniperfox47 Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, (XB1)uknowthisguy said: That's so stupid, people have invested THOUSANDS of plat and HOURS of playtime to get their energize up to what it is now, but who cares I guess? Who cares that the ONE ARCANE we cared about just got nerfed into the ground, who cares that the devs are pushing people away with every update they add, WHO CARES? For the record nobody's forcing you to spend a single plat on arcanes. Edited March 5, 2020 by (NSW)Sniperfox47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shaun-T-Wilson Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 At least more players will play support frames like Trinity for the energy restoring abilities or a spec gara(Mine drops an blue orb every other enemy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 My opinion, DE just popped a massive squat on the energize grind. It is what it is. Gonna go ahead a sell all my energize now. And if it gets buffed in the future maybe buy it back super cheap then. 🤷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
16Bitman Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 1 hour ago, (XB1)YoungGunn82 said: Edit: 21 Arcane energize gives a 60% chance to proc the same amount of energy as before. With a 15 second coolddown, and no duration. Thoughts? It gives you more energy now. Before the patch a maxed energize gave you 100 extra energy when it procced, now you get 150. The cooldown only triggers when you actually activated the arcane. My exothermic Ember is crying, everything else is fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 vor 4 Minuten schrieb (PS4)Shaun-T-Wilson: At least more players will play support frames like Trinity for the energy restoring abilities or a spec gara(Mine drops an blue orb every other enemy) no. you can forget public eos with trinity. i tried it many times and gave up. if you dont carry games you will get low focus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, 16Bitman said: now you get 150. Gotcha, 21 arcanes is a 60% chance 150 energy and a 15 sec cooldown. = Garbage. Two pads give 200 energy almost instantly on demand and no cool down. Solid logic there ya know. Lol Edited March 5, 2020 by (XB1)YoungGunn82 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darklord_Tou Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Here is the thing as DE has already stated: Arcanes are suppose to be something you get benefit from slightly not something you make your build around. 150 energy every 15secs means you get FREE 150 energy every 15 secs. I mean this wouldve been amazing on any other game where energy economy is important but warframe as we all know is an unbalanced mess so its worthless. Hopefully they stick to this changes and balance their game around it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hiero_Glyph Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, (PS4)Shaun-T-Wilson said: At least more players will play support frames like Trinity for the energy restoring abilities or a spec gara(Mine drops an blue orb every other enemy) Huh? Most players do not have Arcane Energize, let alone 2 of them to make a r5, and they still didn't use Trinity. So getting energy every 15s is still better than what most players have right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Darklord_Tou said: 150 energy every 15secs means you get FREE 150 energy every 15 secs. Don't forget the 60% chance when RNG blesses you with a orb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire2box Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, (PS4)Shaun-T-Wilson said: At least more players will play support frames like Trinity for the energy restoring abilities or a spec gara(Mine drops an blue orb every other enemy) we have 100x large energy blueprints now and magus healing arcanes are still wildly good. What do you mean play trin. I only play her now if we really need healing (grendal missions) or if something else needs healing like sortie defense or defection. Edited March 5, 2020 by Fire2box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AuroraSonicBoom Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 That was one piece of the puzzle. The other two pieces are changing ev and max item unit per gear slot. Then we might actually have something like that approaches an energy economy in the game again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash_L Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 gg, I quit. Not gonna play till they change the CD to 5seconds or less. 15seconds just killed it. I don't like zenurik and gotta dash for energy idea. And I hate this update forced me back to Zenurik. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)COA Altair Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 Time to go enjoy my unnerfed energizes while I can I guess. Soon all it will be about is rage + umbral mods or pad spamming that they did nothing to, in fact they encouraged pad spam with the 100x large energy restore BP in dojo's now. At least I don't have to go out there and buy an arcane energize to get to a rank 5. Just get to go out and buy some arcane precisions or something that actually helps in gameplay versus 150 energy every quarter minute in a fast paced game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobWasHere Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, (XB1)YoungGunn82 said: Don't forget the 60% chance when RNG blesses you with a orb. Energy orbs are not that rare. There are plenty of ways to increase their drop chance, Nezha, Hildryn, Nekros, Hydroid, Khora, Dethcube, Sahasa or Chesa doggos in the group and you will have them activating on cd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 vor 5 Minuten schrieb Fire2box: we have 100x large energy blueprints now and magus healing arcanes are still wildly good. What do you mean play trin. I only play her now if we really need healing (grendal missions) or if something else needs healing like sortie defense or defection. she is even here useless. i play mostly with matchmaker and people need damage nearly in every game. i heal/revive with vaz dash much better. and i have magnus repair. host migrations in def missions are huge problem. vaz dash saved many games. games with friends/players from lfg is different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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