Questions about Daily Orokin society

[TheOriginalNytmaer]

Something I've wondered about.

 

What was daily Orokin society like? Was.there any notion of a middle class?  Where did they live? What were they like?  Trying to put together all the pieces.  

Thanks =)

[Marine027]

"Orokin society was highly stratified, with only those at the very top being regarded as actual Orokin. The Orokin constructed a caste of genetically engineered slaves to serve their most basic industrial and military needs, while the rest of the empire was made up of less wealthy and advanced populations performing technological and economic services which would eventually congeal into the Corpus. A small conclave of warriors known as the Dax served as the Orokin's most elite soldiers. The Dax were enhanced with technology to be more lethal and agile in combat, while also made mentally unable to disobey their masters."

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Orokin

[Loza03]

There's not a lot of information, but based on what little we know, I'm fairly sure it worked something like this

You have 'Orokin' and 'not Orokin'. By default, Orokin was anyone other Orokin recognised as having worth to society. It's likely that being allowed to have continuity was available to especially high-ranking Orokin, though this likely isn't divided by their roles, since we've seen individual roles across that society. Judging by Ordan Karris's story, it's likely that rank was defined by how useful you were - an extremely powerful warrior, for example, was allowed to become Orokin and offered eternal life from the get-go, whilst others were sent off to dangerous environments liable to kill them without a by-your-leave.

It seems there's various levels and roles - so you have 'Archimedians' who were the overall academic class - historians and scientists. This can range from the high-class who dealt with cultural progression like Suda before she was a Cephalon (and likely Simaris, or 'Irmis' as he may have been called), to the more lowley sort, like Silvana, who was assigned to post-infestation Earth, which was still pretty toxic. Since Margulis was this class, and was in love with Ballas without this being too unusual, it's probable that at least the high ranking ones were allowed continuity. 'Enginus' which is poorly defined but appears to be somewhat of an engineer, although we know that several were considered high enough to have the whole 'symmetry' thing, so were high class. After that you have Sectaurus, who seem to be second in command to the Exectuors, and got full run of their ships and most of the Orokin tech. As elites, they were probably privy to continuity. Then you have Executors - Ballas was one of these. They were the overseers and justice sector, having several councils of their own. It's unclear whether they WERE the emperors, or were the instruments of their will, but either way they were extremely high class. Ballas, we know, was involved in both justice and the military, and was very high ranking in both. After that, assuming these aren't the Executors themselves, you have the Emperors. The 'Golden Lords', the Seven. These people were considered especially immortal - it's not clear whether they'd been in power since the dawn of the Orokin, or not. I personally headcanon that the 'eras' the relics are named after are generations of the seven.

 

Whilst not all Orokin were equal (Silvana was perfectly happy in a grimy tent on a dead world, which I doubt a super-posh elite would settle for), they were all considered relatively high-class. At worst middle-class. Below them were the vast majority. There is very little information, except that the Orokin really did not care for them. Likely why there isn't much information. All that is known is that there were a lot of them and that a significant number lived in poverty, and that they by-and-large divided themselves up into families, including large merchant families that, after the fall, would go on to form the Corpus and the Ostrons (likely the result of an early cultural split, which might also explain why the Corpus keep the Ostrons around).

 

Below even that were the Grineer. The Grineer were initially just a slave race - a human sub-species created explicitly for cheap labour. This might also explain why so many lower class people were in poverty - the role they may once have played in that society (i.e. building, transport, so on) was played by slaves grown into that role.

[Savire510]

5 minutes ago, Loza03 said:

Below even that were the Grineer. The Grineer were initially just a slave race - a human sub-species created explicitly for cheap labour. This might also explain why so many lower class people were in poverty - the role they may once have played in that society (i.e. building, transport, so on) was played by slaves grown into that role.

From the Tennocon trailer we can see Grineer as soldiers fightning alongside Dax. It looks like Grineer were Orokin main slave battle force and Dax were the elite.

I wonder, could orokin use Corpus and their proxies as mercenaries? Or maybe in the time of Orokin Empire Corpus werent as militaristic as today?

Edited April 14, 2020 by Savire510

[Loza03]

1 minute ago, Savire510 said:

From the Tennocon trailer we can see Grineer as soldiers fightning alongside Dax. It looks like Grineer were Orokin main slave battle force and Dax were the elite.

I wonder, could orokin use Corpus and their proxies as mercenaries? Or maybe in the time of Orokin Empire Corpus werent as militaristic as today?

We know from the Lancer synthesis imprint that Grineer soldiers were a later addition in response to the sentients. Likely replacing the 'traditional' soldiers we see in the Mag Prime codex entry and Ordis's backstory since they're easier to replace.

[Savire510]

16 minutes ago, Loza03 said:

We know from the Lancer synthesis imprint that Grineer soldiers were a later addition in response to the sentients. Likely replacing the 'traditional' soldiers we see in the Mag Prime codex entry and Ordis's backstory since they're easier to replace.

That shows Orokin desperation. Obviously they werent meant to defeat the sentients but to slow them down.

I have read Guardsmen imprint too and it shows that during the Collapse Grineer rebelled against Orokin, stole their ships, took over cloning facilities and amassed armies of clones.

But that tennocon trailer took place during the Collapse.

How much time was between ending the Old War, pushing sentients out of Origin System and Tenno deciding to murder every high ranking orokin? Didnt it happen during celebrations? It looks like Grineer as a whole had a short millitary career in Orokin Empire.

Edited April 14, 2020 by Savire510