Myscho Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 According to Devstream they gonna simplified Avionics, no more 3 manufacturer. Was about damn time 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixFury Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Great. The one unique element of railjack getting removed. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trunks013 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 The real question is how are they gonna merge them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vit0Corleone Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Myscho said: According to Devstream they gonna simplified Avionics, no more 3 manufacturer. Was about damn time Switching houses actually allowed builds where you could get more power for lower slot cost. Not sure what's the rationale here. I guess just to make it simpler to understand?.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Quarky Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Pfffft. It's my opinion the real rngrinder are the wreckages, not the avionics. Who was even whinging about avionics? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marine027 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Unique but confused to much honestly, good it gets merged or whatever they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Graysmog Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, Vit0Corleone said: Switching houses actually allowed builds where you could get more power for lower slot cost. Not sure what's the rationale here. I guess just to make it simpler to understand?.. I mean, they could still be around with their different values and ranks, but now the Avionics are just under one manufactures name. Now each one will just be assigned to a rarity and a rarity alone, like Mods. If that's the case I don't see that as anything but an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krankbert Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 vor 1 Minute schrieb (XB1)Graysmog: I mean, they could still be around with their different values and ranks, but now the Avionics are just under one manufactures name. Now each one will just be assigned to a rarity and a rarity alone, like Mods. If that's the case I don't see that as anything but an improvement. No. Of course that's not what's going to happen. There will be one avionic for each effect. You know, like mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Graysmog Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Krankbert said: No. Of course that's not what's going to happen. There will be one avionic for each effect. You know, like mods. Why? Wouldn't that be more work for ... nothing really? The previous change would literally just be a label change for every Avionic, which I imagine is far easier than taking out Avionics for each effect and having to redistribute drops while deciding which to keep at what rarity and what to toss out. Also no, that isn't like Mods. Mods have more than a single Mod for each effect, with different rarities, and different classifications. There's Bronze, Silver and Gold for rarity. There's Umbral, Augments, Aura's, Damaged, Primed, Rivens and many others for classifications. The difference is, they're far more simplified in their classifications."Simplifying" is not the same as "Condensing". Edited April 24, 2020 by (XB1)Graysmog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonDragon Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I'd be happy if we could squish unneeded Avionics into Dirac credits or something. They start to stack up in the inventory, and aren't well manageable currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Graysmog Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, HoustonDragon said: I'd be happy if we could squish unneeded Avionics into Dirac credits or something. They start to stack up in the inventory, and aren't well manageable currently. I'd absolutely love an "Auto-Dirac/Endo" or "Auto-Credit" feature in this game. Just let me decide which Mods are instantly trashed and it'll be a fine addition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krankbert Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 vor 35 Minuten schrieb (XB1)Graysmog: Why? Wouldn't that be more work for ... nothing really? The previous change would literally just be a label change for every Avionic, which I imagine is far easier than taking out Avionics for each effect and having to redistribute drops while deciding which to keep at what rarity and what to toss out. Why would they possibly do that? You think taking out the mods "is more work for nothign really" and instead propose that it might be an absolutely pointless label change? Anyway, let's end this stupid discussion: They plan to take out the other mods, I know this because the text they showed on the stream said so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 was a bit confusing for me. IMO, it wouldve been worth sticking with if the entire game was modded this way. For RJ alone, it was just a pain to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesodos Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 56 minutes ago, PhoenixFury said: Great. The one unique element of railjack getting removed. Weapons and parts will stay spread out. Cluttering your inventory with stuff that behaves like wonky mods with RNG on steroids isn't really unique. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methanoid Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 there wasnt really anything wrong with having multiple types of mods from differing houses, what let it down as always was the cluster-dump of tons and tons and tons of mods, largely as just meaningless icons and very little information about the differences when you click or just look at 1 or the other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o0Despair0o Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Well, on one hand, I'd happy about it because the RNG for the manufacturer on top of the RNG for the avionic itself will be gone, but on the other hand, I'm never going to get back the time I wasted on getting that Zetki Hyperstrike. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 well, I suppose that doesn't change anything for me. doesn't matter what they call a +100 reactor, I still don't have one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zehne Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Vit0Corleone said: Switching houses actually allowed builds where you could get more power for lower slot cost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nichivo Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 hours ago, zehne said: ^ I see my solo build being wrecked, and being forced into a simplified meta garbage build. Not going to mince words. I hate this idea!! It just wastes the time some of us invest in theory, and math, to tailor a build with specific house mods some of which are purposely under ranked. Just what I always ask for in games, less options.😞 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krankbert Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 vor 9 Stunden schrieb (PS4)robotwars7: well, I suppose that doesn't change anything for me. doesn't matter what they call a +100 reactor, I still don't have one. This is about avionics. A reactor isn't an avionic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
844448 Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I see it's too bad they choose to simplify the avionics system because apparently it's too confusing for some (dumb f*cks, I just have to say it) Like, is it really hard to understand about the versions? Lavan : Low budget avionics Vidar : defensive avionics Zetki : Avionics on steroid That's what I see on each houses, is it too hard to understand or too much so no one can make a meta so DE have to simplify it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_The_F00l Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 There we go , Players don't understand the concept of balancing between different varieties and so the varieties go away. No changes to the ease to acquire the varieties - go figure. I swear DE keeps making things easier and dumber with every release and then wonders why the players aren't using different tactics and loadouts. Wide as an ocean deep as a puddle, why get a boat when you can keep using your car to cross everything. Not that one is expected to know advanced calculus to find a suitable build, but damn, hese arbitrary decisions on one side to make it easy to access and then making them stay behind such a long grind, rarity to drop and time gates sends mixed messages. Still a little too early to decide on this, so not going to let it be too distracting. I hope they reconsider the variety , and instead make the probability to acquire the varieties balanced. +2 for most of the changes - 1 for a few of them. overall +1 anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krankbert Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 vor 24 Minuten schrieb 0_The_F00l: I swear DE keeps making things easier and dumber with every release and then wonders why the players aren't using different tactics and loadouts. Are you using different tactics and loadouts for your railjack right now? Or do you have just one loadout that you use for everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talinthis Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Great it will probably screw me with my avionics. I got some of different houses because they are almost as good with much lower cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danjoure Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 I have several loadout for my railjack, one for soloing one for party, one when i playing with friend, one for murex. I can play any off my loadout anywhere but it's not funny. If manufacturer are removed there will be only one kind of railjack that's not good. When you build our own railjack you don’t have to think about each game separately but like everything you need to take into consideration your way of playing and thus have a set corresponding to your way of playing. When my friends pilote my railjack i have to adapt my loadout to suit them . It's too early in to change anything about railjack manufacturer. Let people understand how it work when they understand how it work they will realize how it 's amazing. . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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