xxswatelitexx Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) Something about the map which causes so many pathing issues and enemies trickling in - it is sleep inducing. While you have to hunt around for straggelers making each wave painfully longer than it has to be. When you had Map Clearing banshee \ Ash \ Ember \ Mirage it wasn't an issue. Now the Great Warframe gods have all died, Now the map really is starting to show its age. The best Defense maps are probably Sedna \ Saturn. The most annoying Defense map hands down is the Roving Defense of Uranus. What's everyone elses opinions? Edited May 10, 2020 by xxswatelitexx 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx_D0MINAT0R_xXx Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I feel sleepy for every defense expect lua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 yea. all defense missions are painfully boring to me. with the exception of arbys, which i rarely do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syln Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Tiredness and boredome are the real enemies in defense mission. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant99999 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Anyone else feel sleepy doing any Warframe content? 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uhkretor Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 1 hour ago, xxswatelitexx said: Anyone else Feel Sleepy doing Earth Defense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanaukas Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 30 minutes ago, ant99999 said: Anyone else feel sleepy doing any Warframe content? more than an hour makes me feel like this on most cases. Defenses I had to froce myself past 20 waves. My signature movement when I fall asleep on missions is holding W and pressng E against a wall, then I wake up and run for the extraction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watsof Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Hello there! Since I completely agree that starchart missions havs become quite stale, may I suggest this humble thread I put up yesterday? I explore the possibility of improving the basic mission formula and would love your feedback. https://forums.warframe.com/topic/1191833-improving-basic-mission-types-starchart-revised/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)sweatshawp Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I feel sleepy playing the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viyerc Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 All defense missions are boring, except maybe that one from the kuva fortress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diavoros Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Earth defense tileset has enemy spawns too far away from objective so they take a good while to reach, and thus making every wave longer >_> 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOOMPATRIOT Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 hace 1 hora, ant99999 dijo: Anyone else feel sleepy doing any Warframe content? Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ES-Flinter Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 vor einer Stunde schrieb Diavoros: Earth defense tileset has enemy spawns too far away from objective so they take a good while to reach, and thus making every wave longer >_> That. And the problem that even the map is more dangerous than the enemies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiltskillet Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I'm a sicko who actually -likes- defense missions generally, but Earth defense even I avoid. Same deal with the Mars version. Spawns points are too far away, but worse, spawns are especially prone to getting stuck on features. The Corpus Outpost map has spawn points that are even further out, but isn't nearly as unpleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Educated_Beast Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Seems you guys never heard of a speed Nova, an essential component of any defence mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Silverback73 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 I have temporarily fallen asleep a number of times because I use Warframe to decompress and relax...my business is considered essential and so my workload has only increased with all the challenges the shutdown has presented. So to all the SS PUGs that suddenly saw that “Shock Trooper” Volt Prime repeatedly run to the edge of the map for no reason a half-dozen times...I apologize. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevoisvevo Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Hides in corner as operator and let's umbra do his kohm thing the entire match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickelshark Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 (edited) Yeah the earth defense and the mars defense are both awful. But do you know what is worse for me? Literally any excavation mission solo. The spawns are so just so low it's borderline unplayable at times. Edited May 10, 2020 by nickelshark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CrazyBeaTzu Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 It's a huge map. Theres a reason people go to smaller maps like Helene. I cant stand defenses without SpeedVa or Disarm Loki ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogsConkers Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Glad it isn't just me, survival arbitrations is my kryptonite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkbrick Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Il y a 1 heure, kevoisvevo a dit : Hides in corner as operator and let's umbra do his kohm thing the entire match and don't forget the specter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackCat500 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I hate defense, survival, interception, defection, excavation and infested salvage so much, no language in the universe across any of the infinite numbers of alternate universes in theoretical existence have a means to describe it. Yet it feels like whenever there's some kind of syndicate mission, alert or something, it'll always default to the first three. I so, so very much want them reworked. Biggest snoozefest of all time. Slow, unrewarding and not fun in itself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Greybones Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, BlackCat500 said: I hate defense, survival, interception, defection, excavation and infested salvage so much, no language in the universe across any of the infinite numbers of alternate universes in theoretical existence have a means to describe it. Yet it feels like whenever there's some kind of syndicate mission, alert or something, it'll always default to the first three. I so, so very much want them reworked. Biggest snoozefest of all time. Slow, unrewarding and not fun in itself. I’ve had some pretty crazy experiences with those modes. What makes them a snoozefest? Edited May 11, 2020 by (NSW)Greybones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackCat500 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, (NSW)Greybones said: I’ve had some pretty crazy experiences with those modes. What do you have equipped to make it a snoozefest? Whatever's most efficient for each mode. A nova to speed things up or a saryn/octavia to kill faster basically automatically, a frost to cover all interception nodes, a nova to slow defection enemies, frost/limbo/gara to cover excavators, slash+fire+gas melee+frost for infested salvage, stuff like that. Even then, it's not entertaining in the slightest. Should I take anything less optimized, it's much worse than it is already, because on top of being unchallenging and boring it's also crawling even more. By comparison, disruption is the king for actually being fast if you have skill, rewarding endless runs and keeping you on your toes. That's how endless modes are done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32768 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 (edited) Yes, i actually fell asleep once in Earth's defence, but i was really tired too, so it's not necessarily 100% boredom, but also tiredness. I woke up to extraction screen, apparently everyone wanted to extract and were waiting for me, so i clicked on "extract". Part of this was, by the way, a bunch of crowd-control frames standing in the middle of the map killing everything, The Old Gods, and i was on Chroma, i was standing there too, buffing them with some stupid health buff, i didn't know what else i could do to help, then at some point i fell asleep. I wish they would do difficulty selector, so i could choose to start from level 80 or 120, i don't know. I really like Earth tileset too, too bad mobs there are too weak to play with any mods installed. Edited May 11, 2020 by 32768 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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