Midas Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 My title elaborates on the sensitive subject that i'd like to discuss here. Personally, I have seen (7 years) forum toxicity towards many posts that I felt have made a negative effect on our community. So I have a few questions for you guys to kick this discussion off. Do you believe that forum toxicity is bad or just plain natural? Do you believe that forum toxicity on the forums should change, and how would we go about that change? Do you think it is possible to change Warframe's toxic forum culture? Personally, I take the stance of yes. It is indeed possible to change how we reply to others even if the post is 'asking for it' or 'so radical that I just need to roast this person'. The last two statements are usually the main reasons for forum toxicity. Overall, what are your answers to the above questions? Any opinions on them? Thanks! - Midaxe 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UwUber Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Warframe? Toxic? Yeah, no. Play literally any other online game for 5 minutes and you'll see that warframe is a shining example of community goodwill, with a very few exceptions. 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarow Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 We cant change how people express themselfs, its their own right even if they are being completly destructive. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just now, UwUber said: Warframe? Toxic? Yeah, no. Play literally any other online game for 5 minutes and you'll see that warframe is a shining example of community goodwill, with a very few exceptions. Is there anything toxic about the forums here that you'd like to see change? Or nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen77 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Oh boy I'm hoping for some fat memes to be dropped here... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just now, Lazarow said: We cant change how people express themselfs, its their own right even if they are being completly destructive. I would have to both agree and disagree with you, I believe a lot of people express themselves because the culture of gaming and this community have inspired others to imitate player's word choices and actions. By changing the culture norm of player's word choices and actions, that discourse can be altered into a more positive form. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midas Posted May 30, 2020 Author Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just now, Fallen77 said: Oh boy I'm hoping for some fat memes to be dropped here... Hey man, you would have to agree that it is indeed a good discussion idea, regardless if it is quite sensitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Greybones Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) I understand where you’re coming from, OP. Ultimately it’s on the poster to decide the value of their voice, but I’ve found that a hesitation to hit “Submit Reply” helps me gauge my contribution. Even then I end up editing a few times 😅 If not outright deleting what I’ve written, come to think of it 🤔 Sometimes I straight up decide that I’ve written nothing worth reading Edited May 30, 2020 by (NSW)Greybones 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holo Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I think its simply the mindset of 'I am right and your argument holds no merit' which causes this. Why engage with an argument if you think it holds no value, instead just be toxic lul. I think another reason is because you've got players asking for things other players view as stupid. ex. the discussion between endgame raids and fashion frame or the discussion on the 'nerfing' of weapons. The views need to be assessed as an individual thought and the merits based on the argument itself. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Deeceem Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) I have always the option to stop reading, responding or posting. I don't see why that needs special outside regulation. Edited May 30, 2020 by (PS4)Deeceem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holo Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Just now, (PS4)Deeceem said: I have always the option to stop reading, responding or posting. I don't see why that needs special outside regulation. Yeah people have already complained about censorship by DE and adding more of that would not be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Sassy responses are acceptable, as long as they're from me. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ALTBOULI Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Way too many trolls lately just trying to ruin the game or annoy people on here. Wish the mods would actually be more proactive here 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Quite literally nothing goes on here that you won't find in any other online community. And for one based on a game in active development it's actually rather tame given how many conflicting opinions there are relative to similar communities. So it's more of an "internet culture" issue rather than anything unique to this community and anything that could "fix" it would most likely cause more toxicity and divides between the different sub groups of the community. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Viveeeh Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Midas said: Do you believe that forum toxicity is bad or just plain natural? Any kind of toxicity on any platform is bad. Unfortunately, it's also natural, since there always be insufferable people around. You can't do much about them, except if they reach a level when you can report them. I suggest to put these people on your ignore list - good thing we're on the internet! Edited May 30, 2020 by (PS4)Viveeeh 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheePrime Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 Spoiler 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Deeceem Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) vor 21 Minuten schrieb Holo: Yeah people have already complained about censorship by DE and adding more of that would not be good. Just a bit ago I realized I didn't enjoy a thread and just ejected myself from it. It's really just an ego thing (I fall victim to myself as well sometimes) to care too much about what a bunch of anonymous people on a game forum on the internet say. There are other things like harrassment or real life threats and those are already handled by rules that are enforced. "Toxicity" is such an overused term anyways. People should really look up what it actually means. What it doesn't mean for example is replying sassy or in gifs only because you think someone said something silly or having a heated disagreement with someone. Also people have to be receptive for it, so it always takes two (or more) people to become toxic. That's something everyone can work on themselves individualy if they want. Edited May 30, 2020 by (PS4)Deeceem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, DeMonkey said: Sassy responses are acceptable, as long as they're from me. Sorry Monkey gonna have to stop ya right there. @MagPrime is the sass expert round these parts. 😉 Edited May 30, 2020 by (XB1)YoungGunn82 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buldozers Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 By forum "toxicity" you mean mods deleting posts which are undesirable for the update hype train where people are complaining about bad deluxe skins and so and so? That is the one of the issues concerning forums. Second would be removing additional "Like" button options. How can you express your disgust to some outrageous post now? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Deeceem Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) vor 3 Minuten schrieb Buldozers: By forum "toxicity" you mean mods deleting posts which are undesirable for the update hype train where people are complaining about bad deluxe skins and so and so? That is the one of the issues concerning forums. Second would be removing additional "Like" button options. How can you express your disgust to some outrageous post now? I think I'll start using this for that purpose more often: Edited May 30, 2020 by (PS4)Deeceem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 sometimes things can go to excessive levels but not hiding things is usually better than hiding things, it makes Discussions less of an echo chamber. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drachnyn Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 As forum user you can choose who you respond to. If someone doesnt write anything constructive, dont engage with them. Instead focus on and only respond to the constructive posts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I don't really see sass and memes as toxic. Most of the time, it's friendly sass. For example I do it all the time, but rarely out spite. The main times people get sassy out of spite is in threads that the OP has already shown they cannot remain respectful. Such as being insulting in the first post, being rude to everyone who responds with a different opinion, or people who use slurs. (anyone remember that guy who called everyone with a different opinion a "soy boy"? Shinning example of this) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, (XB1)TyeGoo said: Not the forums.. I'm currently making a post on how feedback threads need to be locked for people to not shut down ideas that don't even affect them in the first place. This^ That's when I get suspicious (tin foil hat time) that DE employees are pretending to not be DE employees and shoot down player feedback with thier "reg player accounts" in the forums because they have thier own agendas. Because implemention of said feedback makes thier work harder to do. Doesn't make sense any other way. That's my theory anyway. Edited May 30, 2020 by (XB1)YoungGunn82 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarmongerExtraordinare Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 people's opinions dont lose value even if they contain strong words or maby even a couple of snarky jabs at someone, that is, if they even have an actual opinion to begin with. people should stop running from the harsh reality, should stop wishing to live in a perfect fluffy world without any sharp corners. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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