Lord_Khaavren 220 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 The drop rate stated in the PC drop tables for Protea Chassis is 11.11% rotation C of Extended Granum Void. I have now ran the Extended Granum Void 55 times with no drops of Protea Chassis. This photo shows I have obtained the Velox Receiver (29.63%) 15 times, Stahlta Stock (29.63%) 17 times, Stropha Receiver (29.63%) 23 times, Exemplar Granum Crown Decoration (16.67%) 12 times, Corpus Ship Hanger Scene (16.67%) 10 times and Protea Chassis (11.11%) ZERO times. Comparing my results to the drop tables shows my experienced drops results of Velox Reiver 27.27%, Stahlta Stock 30.9%, Stropha Receiver 41.81%, Exemplar Granum Crown Deco 21.81% and Corpus Ship Hanger Scene 18.18% with Protea Chassis still not having dropped a single time. The chances of 55 attempts at an 11.11% drop without success is 1.7 in 1000. Every item can within 5% of it's expected drop rate except the Stropha Receiver and Protea Chassis. The Stropha Receiver drops were clearly abnormally high is addition to the Protea Chassis being abnormally absent. This clearly shows that these two drop rates have been incorrectly stated with whatever lowered chance the chassis has of dropping being attributed to the Stropha Receivers drop rate. 12 Link to post Share on other sites
Talaith 2 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 (edited) I only did about half as many runs as you did, but those are my results so far: 0 chasis, 12 Velox Receiver, 9 Stahlta Stock, 5 Stropha Receiver. Something is definitely wrong with the chasis drop rate. Edit: Did around 10-15 runs more and finally got it. Seems like i just really hit a bad luck streak on this one. Good luck to anyone else still farming for this. Edited June 12, 2020 by Talaith Update on the status 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Giga2020 3 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 I have the same issue but with systems 3 Link to post Share on other sites
SerraphiX 29 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Did over 20 runs without a single chassis drop as well. This is actually ridiculous. Never was I this "unlucky" in over 7 years of playing Warframe... 5 Link to post Share on other sites
dwqrf 661 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 I dropped it in a couple of runs, but that was before 28.0.3. Link to post Share on other sites
TasteOfAshes 27 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 30 tier 2 runs, no chasis. Now i remember why i uninstalled year ago. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Lord_Khaavren 220 Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 Ended up getting the chassis on my 63rd attempt 😔 4 Link to post Share on other sites
iamJUB 9 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Something is definitely wrong, I've had similarly terrible results. I don't understand what they hope to achieve by making the drop rates so abysmal. 9 Link to post Share on other sites
FuLLm99n 2 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 14 hours ago, TasteOfAshes said: 30 tier 2 runs, no chasis. Now i remember why i uninstalled year ago. i'm think about it... Because [DE]...... first day ppl to farm protea only needed to kill 75 even if the squad was 1 or 4, now is not.... Also i'm trying first to farm neuropitcs, and already done like 30 missons, and have 0 neuro.... not to mention de ridiculous nerf of bramma...... when the [DE] just cloud rise MR to resolve the problem.... 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Zionblade 14 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I got all tier 2 rotation C items in five runs. So, either I'm super lucky or they fixed it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
TheSpad 81 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 55 runs is still in the expected range, just at the high end. You can never guarantee drops in a given range with a good RNG but there's nothing to suggest the drop chances stated in the tables are wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Zgirl 40 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 did like 20 runs still no parts Link to post Share on other sites
SizyKing 5 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) Yes, this update is not balanced at all. Seem the developer is different. Everything is very unusual for this game. Edited June 13, 2020 by SizyKing Link to post Share on other sites
Raklor 3 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Not sure if they changed anything with the last hotfixs but i got all parts really fast, maybe 10-15 runs per part in the first 12 hours after release. Link to post Share on other sites
VolfieWX 6 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 103 tier 2 runs. Zero Protea Chassis Blueprints. That is well outside the range of probability. Yes, I understand that it's always (theoretically) 11% each time regardless of previous attempts, but I should be buying losing lotto tickets for "everybody wins" lottos. Update 18hours later: 115 attempts to get chassis. The rest of the parts were unremarkable. Maybe I was just horribly unlucky, but with a sample size of 115, that's decent evidence there was a decimal place slipped. Edited June 14, 2020 by VolfieWX Updated 6 Link to post Share on other sites
Ghostinthenutshell 2 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 What about ghosts levels swinging for 5 to 110 in the same instance ? Kinda weir, insn't it ? 2 Link to post Share on other sites
aSpaceStranger 18 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Yes.. the grind brings back Harrow memories, but I did get chasis in the first 5 runs, so it seems it's all over the place. When it comes to tier 3, nothing so far after 20 runs which is still below range anyways. It sure seems it's like 5% to me, but wait on input from DE. The changes seem plat related, but that's assuming of course.. who knows. Off topic: If you all could have the same level of passion for something that really matters like dedicated hosting, this game would be so much better off. 7 years on P2P, embarrassing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Kyukyoko 9 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) Running for 12hrs plus nonstop finally got the damn protea system. Now going for chassis. I must say this is certainly not right. There are only 5 items in rank3 loot table where protea parts assume 11.11% drop rate which can be said not little or big chance but it's illogical or impossible running over 50 rounds worst more and not hitting 1 jackpot. Be it rng or badluck but it's happening to many players. I truly believed something is wrong with the coding. Edited June 14, 2020 by Kyukyoko 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Monsieur_Fromage 48 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I'm suspecting that they missed a decimal point or something. I've run at least 30 t3 missions, zero protea parts. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Els236 626 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) Protea Neuroptics: 1-2 runs on Tier 1 Protea Chassis: ~15 runs on Tier 2 (nearly every run gave Velox Receiver) Protea Systems: 1-2 runs on Tier 3 This was before hotfixes and DE making it even more grind-heavy. Edited June 14, 2020 by Els236 2 Link to post Share on other sites
VoidArkhangel 588 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I have the feeling that a dev put 1.11% instead of 11.1%.... 7 Link to post Share on other sites
sv650racer 174 Posted June 15, 2020 Share Posted June 15, 2020 (edited) On 2020-06-12 at 5:05 AM, Lord_Khaavren said: The drop rate stated in the PC drop tables for Protea Chassis is 11.11% rotation C of Extended Granum Void. I have now ran the Extended Granum Void 55 times with no drops of Protea Chassis. This photo shows I have obtained the Velox Receiver (29.63%) 15 times, Stahlta Stock (29.63%) 17 times, Stropha Receiver (29.63%) 23 times, Exemplar Granum Crown Decoration (16.67%) 12 times, Corpus Ship Hanger Scene (16.67%) 10 times and Protea Chassis (11.11%) ZERO times. Comparing my results to the drop tables shows my experienced drops results of Velox Reiver 27.27%, Stahlta Stock 30.9%, Stropha Receiver 41.81%, Exemplar Granum Crown Deco 21.81% and Corpus Ship Hanger Scene 18.18% with Protea Chassis still not having dropped a single time. The chances of 55 attempts at an 11.11% drop without success is 1.7 in 1000. Every item can within 5% of it's expected drop rate except the Stropha Receiver and Protea Chassis. The Stropha Receiver drops were clearly abnormally high is addition to the Protea Chassis being abnormally absent. This clearly shows that these two drop rates have been incorrectly stated with whatever lowered chance the chassis has of dropping being attributed to the Stropha Receivers drop rate. First of all don't know why decoration and the capture scenes have anything to do with Portea farm cause they weren't even part of the Rot-C drop, yet you fail to include shoulder guard count to the calculation. Here is the drop table for reference: https://imgur.com/CYSR2xl Personally I got all her parts and all the weapon parts in 35 runs. I am sure some got it in less runs and some got it in more runs. RNG is RNG, it is often just that and not a bug. A 11.11% drops chance ALSO means a 88.89% non-drop chance. Edited June 15, 2020 by sv650racer 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Fooxynn 6 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) Looks like i am not the only one getting crazy about that chassis. I did more than 30 run, no chassis. I am not telling that something is wrong, maybe i am just very unlucky... but this looks very suspicious. Only want DE to look if everything is normal and give us feedback like : "yes, we fooked up" or "no, git gud". EDIT : Finally get that chassis after ~40 try, this do not feel like 11.11% but heh Edited June 19, 2020 by Fooxynn Link to post Share on other sites
aSpaceStranger 18 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 For recap; Got my Neuros at run 36. Chasis: 5 Systems: 16 btw; Got Systems and Neuros on Solo. Not that it makes any difference, "supposedly". Got everything in a total of 2 days and some hours, including Jackal drops. Link to post Share on other sites
Fujidenzo 8 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 2020-06-13 at 1:43 AM, Giga2020 said: I have the same issue but with systems +1 on this. i've been farming for that part since monday Link to post Share on other sites
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