(PSN)turner8874 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 DE you need to bring a vote option to kick idol selfish players who refuse to advance to the mission objectives and have stand offs intentionally to prevent other players completing there mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnarlsDarkley Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLight001 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 That power can really be abused tho 😕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ES-Flinter Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 vor 5 Minuten schrieb AlexLight001: That power can really be abused tho 😕 Only if you have the luck to get into a mission with tree trolls/ elitist. We are talking about a vote-option where everyone has to agree, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus_Tahir Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Just now, ES-Flinter said: Only if you have the luck to get into a mission with tree trolls/ elitist. We are talking about a vote-option where everyone has to agree, right? FFXIV 4 man teams have already proven this can be abused easily, and is regularly. You underestimate the number of trolls on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aldain Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Just now, Magus_Tahir said: FFXIV 4 man teams have already proven this can be abused easily, and is regularly. Can confirm, I once got kicked from a party for playing Scholar, the first thing I see in the chat is "Ew a Sch" and before too long I got kicked. Imagine how many people would just kick things like Limbo in Warframe on sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordPantaloonsthe3rd Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 as much as i would like a kick option i feel like having it would just open up another avenue for abuse from the very players who we would want to kick in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zentun. Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Or you can just extract and find a new match? Vote kick would be bad for the game, many people would abuse that, oh look a noob in my squad? Vote kick! lol i don't like that warframe vote kick! We don't need this kind of toxicity in our community. Leech is bad but be kicked for no reason is worst, so NO thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetosayajin Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Might work ONLY IF voting could be started after player is considered afk by the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aadi880 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 il y a 24 minutes, ES-Flinter a dit : Only if you have the luck to get into a mission with tree trolls/ elitist. We are talking about a vote-option where everyone has to agree, right? You have a very high opinion of warframe players. Its not safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ES-Flinter Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 vor 26 Minuten schrieb Aadi880: You have a very high opinion of warframe players. Its not safe. Maybe not. But until now i could survive with this opinion. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Yggranya Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 55 minutes ago, Aldain said: Can confirm, I once got kicked from a party for playing Scholar, the first thing I see in the chat is "Ew a Sch" and before too long I got kicked. Imagine how many people would just kick things like Limbo in Warframe on sight. All i have seen in FFXIV is that there are three friends/FC members covering each other so that you can't kick them when they AFK and watch netflix. I assume they do one dungeon while one does nothing, then in the next dungeon it's someone else and so on. So yeah, useless. To the OP and most people who still don't get it, i will just simplify this again: you want the kick option because people are A******s while at the same time you can't have it because it would be abused by A******s. Hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Ozymandias-13- Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Only allow vote kick to prompt after the player becomes afk (which the system will inform the teammates of), and vote kick outside of missions (as the regular host of one or two friends i HATE having to reform the team every time the pug doesn't leave immediately). Obviously non afk trolls will be an issue, but they'll just have to be reported. There's no other way to avoid vote kick from being exploited against every non meta frame or non max MR player in any given content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLSH_BNG Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 If I end up in a mission with a player that I very particularly don't want to play with (for whatever reason,) then instead of pausing the mission for everyone else to call attention to a problem that is likely only mine and not a bother to anyone else, I'd probably decide to leave the mission and restart without the 'problem.' To wit, this horse has been dead for a long time now and you're no necromancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus_Tahir Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, FLSH_BNG said: To wit, this horse has been dead for a long time now and you're no necromancer. Lord Nekros is the OP a necromancer? Lord Nekros agrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha-7 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, FLSH_BNG said: If I end up in a mission with a player that I very particularly don't want to play with (for whatever reason,) then instead of pausing the mission for everyone else to call attention to a problem that is likely only mine and not a bother to anyone else, I'd probably decide to leave the mission and restart without the 'problem.' To wit, this horse has been dead for a long time now and you're no necromancer. This is the answer, by doing this you basically leave without telling them that you don't like them or want to communicate with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vahenir Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Ah yes... This is definitely a bad idea at this point. Im sure that some people would find it hilarious to play stuff like long survivals and other endless missions only to kick one or two of the players right at the end for instance, screwing them out of their rewards. Or if you show up and someone gets pissed because you nuke stuff with <insert nuke frame here>. Hell i could see eidolon teams doing it, like kicking everyone that enters that doesn't have a chroma prime with a rubico prime or whatever meta stuff they want for their team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 That always comes from people that haven't seen this system in wide usage. Let's crunch some issues! Neutral : Kicking the host - cause everyone loves host migrations. Squad size - you can't have 3 people kick like in MMORPGS, due to the fact that it is 4 man squad. Pretty common issues from other games : Just accepting a kick vote because it is faster than arguing it Premade bullying No safe guard. Bottom line : Maybe fix the anti afk system and push people towards not being aholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiancaRoughfin Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 hours ago, GnarlsDarkley said: Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(NSW)Kirbys-Epic-Yarn Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 It’s seriously not that bad chill out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovyul Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 You clearly haven't played enough games that has a votekick mechanic, so I'll share some of my experience: FPS games: Spoiler You're in a non-game winning 1v1 situation where 7 other pairs of eyes are watching your every movement. You die and lose the round. Guess what happens next. Your K/D goes below 1. Guess what happens. The top player feels like abusing his position to kick a random player for no reason. The sheep open the score screen and vote yes because top player must know it best. RPG games: Spoiler You rolled on a non-tank or non-healer item, but the healer or the tank rolled on that item too, and you won. Guess what happens next. Your DPS is below average, and while despite you're in a non-endgame dungeon to get better items to fix your damage, you're paired with endgamers who votekick the S#&$ out of you. Your team member's GF or BF S#&$talks you, so you S#&$talk back, while they have a simp to back them up too. Guess what happens. And here's what would happen in Warframe: Spoiler Someone doesn't like your ping Someone gets pissed because you misplaced a frost bubble Someone votekicks because you didn't run to ress on the other side of the map Someone votekicks because they don't like your frame or weapon Someone votekicks because they are high/drunk as #*!%, which is becoming more and more common these days Moral of the story OP, with people like these, democracy doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevoisvevo Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 vote kick is a double edged sword, imagine the amount of bad players and afkers it can remove from the match. sure pubs could get more toxic but there is always recruit chat if you want a squad to match your playstyle or even play solo. it sucks to be paired with bad ping players or afkers or a trinity who doesn't heal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)GearsMatrix301 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Will be abused. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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