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The Steel Path: Update 28.1.0


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Does nobody play Baruuk?  Please explain how you are getting combo duration on his waves, without modding for it, and without having to refresh ever?  It gives him a massive damage increase.  Nobody is going around doing direct hits to get to 12x and then not having to refresh it.  You have a permanent 12x combo, that you don't have to refresh unless you do a heavy.  It's way better than naramon too, since it doesn't degrade at all.  Khora is different yes, because she scales off your melee mods, but it still frees up a slot that you can use for more damage (except Xoris riven dispo is too low to compete w other godroll stat sticks).  So you must all be Khora players, who ironically is going to benefit from xoris the least because of its dispo.

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The XBox One controller Tactical ability button in Railjack is broken (again) when running the game using that controller on a Windows 10 machine.

Environment:  Run Warframe on a Windows 10 PC but use an XBox One controller.  Have Particle Ram and Seeker Volley set in your railjack Avionics and start a mission.

What should happen:  When in either the Pilot's seat or one of the Gunner turrets, pressing the Right Button on the XBox One controller pulls up the tactical abilities in the lower right-hand corner of the screen.  While holding down the Right Button, pressing the X button on the controller should enable Particle Ram and pressing the B button on the controller should fire off the Seeker Volley.

What actually happens:  Nothing.  The X and B buttons no longer fire off the Battle avionics.

 

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6 minutes ago, Lord_Dckrod said:

Does nobody play Baruuk?  Please explain how you are getting combo duration on his waves, without modding for it, and without having to refresh ever?  It gives him a massive damage increase.  Nobody is going around doing direct hits to get to 12x and then not having to refresh it.  You have a permanent 12x combo, that you don't have to refresh unless you do a heavy.  It's way better than naramon too, since it doesn't degrade at all.  Khora is different yes, because she scales off your melee mods, but it still frees up a slot that you can use for more damage (except Xoris riven dispo is too low to compete w other godroll stat sticks).  So you must all be Khora players, who ironically is going to benefit from xoris the least because of its dispo.

I'm using setup from this video. It hits hard and its reliable.

 

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4 minutes ago, _Connor said:

it could be thousands of pages and still be a tiny minority. 

and if the minority is not complaining because it is part of the rivens mafia?

also, what proof do you have that it is not the minority that does not want the change?

"Why would your opinion of how the game should be balanced ever be relevant?"

also, also, why shouldn't any minority have an opinion be relevant?

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10 hours ago, [DE]Megan said:

Xoris Interaction Changes:
Certain Warframe Abilities and Exalted weapons will now reset the Melee Combo Counter only if the Xoris is being used. The overwhelming Damage output of certain Warframe Abilities was not our intention with an infinite Melee Combo weapon, and the conversation of ‘Xoris or you’re doing it wrong’ is greatly restrictive in terms of player choice.

 

Still spouting the same nonsense about the Xoris damage that has been proven to be patently untrue by pretty much everyone who actually plays the game, proof if proof be needed that the devs don't.

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2 minutes ago, _Connor said:

it could be thousands of pages and still be a tiny minority. 

yeah kinda strange about 90% of the forum thinks it is the wrong move from DE right ?

but i am sure your numbers are right and mine are wrong

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1 minute ago, ZukeZima said:

and if the minority is not complaining because it is part of the rivens mafia?

also, what proof do you have that it is not the minority that does not want the change?

yeah only the members of the riven mafia like the xoris nerf, because it did reduce the riven price

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Just now, paulogabbi said:

yeah kinda strange about 90% of the forum thinks it is the wrong move from DE right ?

but i am sure your numbers are right and mine are wrong

100% of the forum is a tiny minority of players. Do you not understand how few players use this forum or whine about nerfs? 

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2 minutes ago, _Connor said:

100% of the forum is a tiny minority of players. Do you not understand how few players use this forum or whine about nerfs? 

so you're saying "you guys are minorities, you should shut up, your opinions are irrelevant", is that what you mean ???

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28 minutes ago, _Connor said:

100% of the forum is a tiny minority of players. Do you not understand how few players use this forum or whine about nerfs? 

Let's talk some numbers.  

DE has sold this game on having millions of registered users.  If you want the proof, look to the community meme of Rebecca accidentally saying "registered losers."  It was a fun slip of the tongue, but let's just call it proof and laugh.

 

Now, let's look at how many people are playing on PC, according to the Steam charts.  Peak player counts at about 80k people.  Let's further pare this down, and remove the crowd that's casual.  How do I define that?  Well (current peak)-(peak in Jan 2020) = casual players.  This means that about 30k of 80k are casuals, who don't engage enough to care about posting.  Let's call that an available pool of 50k players dedicated enough to care about the game from PC.  40 pages, assuming 25 posts per page, is about 1000 posts.  Cut out half of them, and we've got about 500 people commenting.  500/50000 is 1%. 

What else gives us a 1% participation, according to steam?  

Kuva Liches - 1.7%

Built a Moa - 1.5%

275 meter drop on the Orb Vallis - 1.0%

found all caves on orb Vallis - 0.7%

 

 

Wow.  It almost seems like the crowd that is willing to slog through this game, and has for some time, is about the same percentage of comments on the forum.  You're welcome to massage these numbers, but my point is that "it's a small percentage of users" is not a good stance.  The counter is "a small percentage of users is all that will care about this game enough to even get past the grind walls."

So, what's my point?  90% of users providing negative feedback is not something to ignore.  It's functionally the people who care about your game telling you to stop.  It's the same as the drive for a universal vacuum, making Liches suck less, getting all frames to a minimum base armor of 100, and finally getting shield gating.  You'll note with all of these that we had to drag DE kicking and screaming to give us these features.

Now we are told "if you're not using Xoris you're doing it wrong."  We respond back that whomever said that does not understand fundamental mechanics of the game. They don't understand that the issue is having to use stat-sticks on exalted melee, and how utterly dominating that melee is right now.  Heck, they don't even understand that if they make enemies sponges the only viable way we have to deal with them is melee, rendering 2/3 of our weapons useless.  Despite people pointing this out, DE took four weeks to nerf something that was not insanely powerful.  It was not broken.  It literally only let us not have to bounce back to refresh combo duration, which was a quality of life thing.  When you call quality of life choices "game breakingly powerful," and sell the fix as a nerf instead of addressing the real issue of the need for stat-sticks, then you look like an idiot.  You kept the Mire and Amphis, two weapons who can be even more powerful with a riven.  You maintain the release 1/5 disposition for a weapon, that has no other redeeming traits.  

 

Let me offer a parallel.  You park a car.  It rolls down the hill, and bumps into a neighbor's car.  The interaction is not desired, and the fix is to apply the parking break and perform regular checks on it.  Instead, you decide to let all of the air out of your tires to increase the stiction and prevent it from happening again.  The fix to that problem is not thought out, and you don't own a pump to refill the tires.  Don't worry, you can just drive it down the street and refill at the gas station...two months later the tires are constantly leaking because you've bent the rims.  All the while, you've moved on to the next set of tires which have more tread.  Despite having more tread, they leak.  You continue to address the underlying issue the same, create other issues on top, and it's all because you refuse to do the work of applying the parking break and inspecting it.  DE should make all warframe weapons modable, and control their powers without stat-sticks.  Years in and they still refuse, which will perpetuate the unintended interactions.  Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results...I think DE needs a straight jacket here by that logic.

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32 minutes ago, Karury said:

anyone knows how to unlock the Plains of Eidolon in Steel Path ??

 

Go to Konzu.  Check the Bounties.  There will be a new 6th tier, with a level at 100-100.  Once it's complete you've done the Plains.

 

Do be cautious.  The fallen drones still have pathing that gets stuck inside the mission selector tents occasionally, and there are a bunch of the normal progression bugs.  Best of luck....it's a high level version of things with rewards that do not match the difficulty...

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5 minutes ago, master_of_destiny said:

Let me offer a parallel.  You park a car.  It rolls down the hill, and bumps into a neighbor's car.  The interaction is not desired, and the fix is to apply the parking break and perform regular checks on it.  Instead, you decide to let all of the air out of your tires to increase the stiction and prevent it from happening again.  The fix to that problem is not thought out, and you don't own a pump to refill the tires.  Don't worry, you can just drive it down the street and refill at the gas station...two months later the tires are constantly leaking because you've bent the rims.  All the while, you've moved on to the next set of tires which have more tread.  Despite having more tread, they leak.  You continue to address the underlying issue the same, create other issues on top, and it's all because you refuse to do the work of applying the parking break and inspecting it.  DE should make all warframe weapons modable, and control their powers without stat-sticks.  Years in and they still refuse, which will perpetuate the unintended interactions.  Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results...I think DE needs a straight jacket here by that logic.

To continue your metaphor there is also the 16 wheeler your neighbour has called rivens doing the same thingbut with more damage.

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