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18 minutes ago, (PS4)SgtRavage said:

Found the 5th in the far end corner bottom of the crane, really hard to find

 

https://imgur.com/OHqtAym

Thank you thank you thank you! People kept saying "tablet" but between the blue one (which I found) and the lighting/fog effects (which were hurting my eyes in conjunction with the Glassmaker ambiance) I couldn't spend more than ten minutes at a time looking for something that, to my mind, didn't exist.

(Which is to say: I was looking for a second blue tablet, I had no idea it was orange. Thank you for the picture!)

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I wish the devs would restore full mobility to my Warframe. Moving in molasses with no jump or crouch is taking me out of the game. It's like I'm not playing Warframe anymore and it's disconcerting. All I want to do is quit back to the actual game. 

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The clues for this one are in different locations depending on which random clues you get. My friend and I found this out when he shared his screen with me.

As for the lore, I am excited to see where it goes, I wounder what kind of fight/mission, we're going to get at episode 5.

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I'm really interested in this new episode. Haven't gone a chance to go over it myself, but the lore I have read already is really cool. 

I'm hoping for an infested that is maybe trying to cure itself next? The question is, what is the end game, if any? Does Nihil have a dastardly master plan, are they just going around randomly glassing rebel types? 

Is Nihil going to try to glass the Tenno for rebelling against the Orokin? Is Nihil a glass based serial killer who is planning to artfully kill one person from each faction who tries to rebel? Is our glassmaking friend even remotely sane anymore? 

This is starting to get really interesting. 

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hace 3 horas, (PS4)marshb863 dijo:

I wish the devs would restore full mobility to my Warframe. Moving in molasses with no jump or crouch is taking me out of the game. It's like I'm not playing Warframe anymore and it's disconcerting. All I want to do is quit back to the actual game. 

Same happens to me. I feel it is not warframe.

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6 hours ago, Stridersv said:

I'm still looking for the last puzzle piece... I have the gun, communications device, plushie and a tablet with a sindicate logo. Someone can point out how are the looks or something like that for the last item?

I can't find the last item either. I checked what people have found on youtube, and I know it's supposed to be an orange tablet with the victim's thoughts. I have hunted through all of the corners of the area, but can't find it anywhere. I've checked the landing pad, in the victim's sleeping quarters, around the corner in the locker (that's where I found the weapon), around the computers near the far landing pad, but I can't seem to find it. I've spent 30 minutes looking for this last item and I'm a little lost...

 

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5 hours ago, (PS4)SgtRavage said:

Found the 5th in the far end corner bottom of the crane, really hard to find

 

https://imgur.com/OHqtAym

This was exactly what I needed. The orange tablet seems to blend in really well with the trim under the edge of that crane

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Found the clue I was missing after reading another post
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Been looking for "Feeling" for about 20 minutes. Luckily, my first four evidence is in the same location as yours, so finally managed to find the last piece.

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11 hours ago, Zahnny said:

 

Episode 1, A Greedy Ostron who did not believe in Cetus's way of life in regards to sharing and providing for the rest of the tribe.

 

He was punished because he commtied "sacrilege" of orokin treasures and disrespect the unum selling ancient orokin relics, something forbbiden on ostron culture (probably that's why we can't buy the zambuka ayatan sculpture from them and we have to buy it for vitus), not ust because "he wasn't sharing"

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12 hours ago, (XB1)C11H22O11 said:

I don't know if anyone tried but in the end we get some lore with a picture, if you put the pictures together it looks like someone (probably Nihil) my pictures were taken from my phone so they don't look good or symmetrical so would be nice if someone did it better

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Thats a person.

It seems Ballas' blue skin wasnt a case of Tenno throwing permanent ink at him,

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11 hours ago, Tesseract7777 said:

I'm hoping for an infested that is maybe trying to cure itself next? The question is, what is the end game, if any? Does Nihil have a dastardly master plan, are they just going around randomly glassing rebel types? 

Episode 5 is probably for us, maybe Nora will give us coordinates where she feels Nihil will attack next (she mentions he's revealing himself more and more), and then he attacks us (Nihil basically said we're starting to bother him), hence he's the boss.

Next one can be a Solaris - But at this point I wouldn't think this is interesting, I've never felt they were interesting at all. Could be a rogue Cephalon also. Or a Kavat which uses Charm's when his master needs it, instead of when there isn't any enemy nearby.

1 hour ago, Invisibleaxeman said:

Lotus is a bit of a rebel, would be interesting if she got glassed.

OP mentioned Clem, who must also be bricking himself at the moment.

Thought about that as well, plenty of lore possibilities, but I don't know if they're really willing to dive into "main lore" during Nightwaves.

Technically, Ordis deviates too, as he seems to have feelings and has remembered his past, which is probably forbidden or prevented for Cephalons. Clem obviously. Grineer Kavors as well, but we already had a Grineer so unlikely. Some of the Syndicates are basically rebelling too. Also technically... Isn't Umbra not following the Warframes' concepts of not being sentient ? :laugh:

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I WANT GRAL TO COME AS AN NPC!

Clem is great , but he was always Clem ,

Gral has overcome much - very gritty , where are those damn petition makers when you need em.

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15 minutes ago, (PS4)Shelneroth said:

The first two cases seemed to be linked. This third case currently seems unrelated. Not sure what to make of that. 

Hm, they all follow the same theme of the victims going against the norm

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On 2020-07-08 at 5:42 PM, Zahnny said:

Spoilers for Nightwave: Glassmaker Episode 3

So, Episode 3 has been released of Glassmaker and I don't see a thread up yet.

 

It would seem that this Glassmaker, this "Nihil" is someone who sees themselves as an Arbiter. Their Glassmaking is not at random and instead follows a pattern. Targetting those who deviate from the culture and social expectations of them.

Episode 1, A Greedy Ostron who did not believe in Cetus's way of life in regards to sharing and providing for the rest of the tribe.

Episode 2, A Crewman who saw through the lies of the Corpus and disregarded its dogma.

Episode 3, A Grineer who somehow gained his own will, either through a defection in the Grineer cloning process or through becoming more self aware, breaking free of the slavery embedded in his genes. Working to help the Solaris.

 

Following this pattern, I'm interested to see what other factions are next.. Solaris is likely, but who after? A non-infectious Infested? A drone breaking free of the Orokin neural sentry? Or something entirely different?

Semi-unreleated, but I feel bad for this Grineer "Gral" fellow as my clues seem to call him. He seems like he could've been another Clem given the chance.

 

EDIT: I had hopes to discuss the lore, but it seems this has turned into a thread for helping players find the clues. Oh well, can't be helped I guess.

I’ll discuss.

His name obviously hints at “nihilism” but he quickly diverges from this in attitude and behavior.

Theory 1:

At first I thought he was on a revenge tour of the entire system because his life of service was rewarded with being turned into a Cephalon.

Somehow he gets his memory back and breaks free of whatever Prison he was in and determines that nothing he did meant ANYTHING in terms of law with the Orokin Executors being fraudulent (and dead by their own folly) and betraying him and the system in Chaos.

Only by “glassing” every living thing into perpetual stasis can law and order be achieved and upheld.  

The free will/deviation in behavior is just a means to this end.

Theory 2:

As a Cephalon, he has taken the memories of his former self and coded his anger and purpose into precepts.  Basically, he can only function as a Cephalon with human memories as constructs to execute the purpose of Law and Order over Chaos.

He is devoid of free will, it being removed as a Cephalon.

He yearns for it, AND HATES THAT THE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE TO “BE” WAS TAKEN.

Therefore, Free Will is precepted as Chaos.

The third victim reinforces this.

Deviations from the norm by his victims (via free will) result in swift punishment:

He cannot erase “Free Will”, but he CAN imprison them in glass so they are forever unable to be free to act upon said Free Will and become an agent of Chaos.

In a cruel twist of fate, Nihil feels most human through the most INhuman of self-appointed purposes; “nihilistically”...locking others with free will into a prison of glass, forever being robbed of choice.

And to be clear, we are ALL of Orokin origin and meant for the glass.  These first 3 victims were just the easiest pieces in the puzzle.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, (XB1)C11H22O11 said:

Hm, they all follow the same theme of the victims going against the norm

Yeah. However I got the impression the second victim was the first victims contact that wanted a piece of specialist equipment. The second victim mentions "that ostron". The implication seems to be the first victim found something old and the second victim got it working. That something turned out to be a crazed cephalon that went on to kill those that freed it. The third victim doesn't seem to be directly linked to this. Whether he'll turn out to be remains to be seen. 

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On 2020-07-09 at 1:01 PM, Chewarette said:

Episode 5 is probably for us, maybe Nora will give us coordinates where she feels Nihil will attack next (she mentions he's revealing himself more and more), and then he attacks us (Nihil basically said we're starting to bother him), hence he's the boss.

Next one can be a Solaris - But at this point I wouldn't think this is interesting, I've never felt they were interesting at all. Could be a rogue Cephalon also. Or a Kavat which uses Charm's when his master needs it, instead of when there isn't any enemy nearby.

Thought about that as well, plenty of lore possibilities, but I don't know if they're really willing to dive into "main lore" during Nightwaves.

Technically, Ordis deviates too, as he seems to have feelings and has remembered his past, which is probably forbidden or prevented for Cephalons. Clem obviously. Grineer Kavors as well, but we already had a Grineer so unlikely. Some of the Syndicates are basically rebelling too. Also technically... Isn't Umbra not following the Warframes' concepts of not being sentient ? :laugh:

Ah didn't think about Ordis, that would be cool, Umbra too.   Funnily, you've managed to narrow down the next potential victim to anybody 🙂

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On 2020-07-08 at 2:42 PM, Zahnny said:

Following this pattern, I'm interested to see what other factions are next.. Solaris is likely, but who after? A non-infectious Infested? A drone breaking free of the Orokin neural sentry? Or something entirely different?

It'd be funny if Stalker or one of his Acolytes was 4 or 5.

It'd be hilarious if we had to either save Stalker or team up with him or an Acolyte to conclude this story.

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