(NSW)Mbek Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Too bad it only appeared this late, if its anywhere before rank 30 can be reached it would be interesting to see people's reactions to this lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiminez_Burial Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, (NSW)Mbek said: If its anywhere before rank 30 can be reached it would be interesting to see people's reactions to this lol But would the reaction be any different? A lot of people who complain about challenges do so because they want to/foolishly feel they have to complete every single challenge. With those people it doesn't matter how far through a season the challenge is, if they feel they can't/aren't willing to complete it then they'll complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaoticEdge Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jiminez_Burial said: But would the reaction be any different? A lot of people who complain about challenges do so because they want to/foolishly feel they have to complete every single challenge. With those people it doesn't matter how far through a season the challenge is, if they feel they can't/aren't willing to complete it then they'll complain. That I agree on that one It be annoying challenge for new players and average players who isn't all the way in the lich system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzerkules Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I'd rather kill a lich than go mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hikuro-93 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Aww damn... I had just finished my Ephemera collection 2 days ago... Welp, guess I'll decide later if it's actually worth it or not. I do still have kuva weapons that need valence upgrading, which I'll end up sooner or later, so might be a good opportunity nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skippy575 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, (PS4)Hikuro-93 said: Aww damn... I had just finished my Ephemera collection 2 days ago... Welp, guess I'll decide later if it's actually worth it or not. I do still have kuva weapons that need valence upgrading, which I'll end up sooner or later, so might be a good opportunity nonetheless. Save it for a recovered challenge for when you upgrade a weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Deeceem Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Yeah, guess I'll finish my Lich to get the Brakk finally up to 60%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enemystand Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 i was waiting for this challenge, i finally have an excuse to kill my lich and recover the last velox part and captura scenes from the granum void droptable that he stole psa: protea mavv helmet is on the nightwave store this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcrimsonlegendx Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 What amuses me is when people say newbies can't kill a lich as a defense against lich themed Nightwave challenges, but they don't whine at all about others that take multitudes more effort like killing the profit taker or a Hydrolyst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanaukas Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Yeah, they announced it a long time ago as a future and possible elite challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfly85 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Yup would be the week after I finally caved and killed the lich I had been saving for this because he stole the broken war bp stalker finally dropped for me 🤷♀️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinegulf Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Uff... Usually these have been doable in 30 mins or less. This is gonna take longer. 😕 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnossosTNC Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Maybe this will provide the incentive for DE to rework the Lich system to be less about making a number slowly tick over until it reaches the line at which you can finally kill the Lich, and take a few more pages out of the systems it's inspired by to make something more interactive and interesting to play. Would have made dedicating my entire day's session to this less mind-numbing. Hah. Who am I kidding? Dr. Sinclairstein and his Igors have already moved on to their next experiment. The best they're going to do is a token integration with Railjack as they promised and never touch it again. Ah well. I suppose do have some Kuva weapons I've been itching to switch elements on, otherwise I would've just skipped. Just completed this just now by switching my Kuva Nukor to Toxin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevoisvevo Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 hours ago, xcrimsonlegendx said: What amuses me is when people say newbies can't kill a lich as a defense against lich themed Nightwave challenges, but they don't whine at all about others that take multitudes more effort like killing the profit taker or a Hydrolyst. but they do whine, i don't know where you found that new players don't whine on hydrolyst, profit taker or silver groove challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Yggranya Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Ahh, and here we are. Now just waiting for someone to insult all the "toxic casuals" again, Heh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reifnir Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 4 hours ago, xcrimsonlegendx said: others that take multitudes more effort like killing the profit taker or a Hydrolyst. U mad, bro? Profit taker can be killed in under 100 seconds with a good team and under 8 minutes solo with decent gear. Hydrolyst can be killed in 12-15 minutes. Killing a Lich (if you didn't have one active before getting this task) will take you anywhere from 100 minutes to Void knows how long, because you may or may not have the required Requiem Mods/Relics. This is by far, the most time-consuming and forced Nightwave task, and it had no place being added until after a massive Lich system rework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drachnyn Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Some of the highlights from the recovered resources from killing my lich: 1.3 million credits 10k kuva 7k endo 4 anasas the protea in action glyph 77 quick draws 35 orokin cells 87k nano spores 18 steel essence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegetosayajin Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I have an excuse to put to rest my last one.He has been on the shelf for a long time. XD 1 hour ago, Reifnir said: under 8 minutes solo with decent gear technically correct under 3 min tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Jiminez_Burial said: But would the reaction be any different? ... I think so. Sure, there are always goung to be players who complain, as you say, about any NW act they wouldn't do normally, feeling the need to get every single task done and demanding the game bend to both of those expectations. That said, those types of players don't represt the whole playerbase, and if anyone is like myself they started letting a ton of acts slip by after hitting Rank 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 23 minutes ago, Reifnir said: Profit taker can be killed in under 100 seconds with a good team and under 8 minutes solo with decent gear. Hydrolyst can be killed in 12-15 minutes. Killing a Lich (if you didn't have one active before getting this task) will take you anywhere from 100 minutes to Void knows how long I wonder how those bosses compare in terms of the long game though. Sure, these comparisons are (probably) accurate from time you start the mission to the time you end it. But what about from the time you start the game in its entirety? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reifnir Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, SenorClipClop said: But what about from the time you start the game in its entirety? Kuva Liches require reaching MR5 at the very, VERY least (The War Within requirement), which can technically be done in 5 days of playing non-stop due to Mr-per-day limit, but realistically, it will take significantly longer to reach them unless getting boosts from friends and spending plat. Yes, I am well aware that Profit-Taker is locked behind Solaris standing, but PT being a part of Nightwave (bad idea) does not justify Liches being there as well (worse idea). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)lumen2ne1 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 5 hours ago, xcrimsonlegendx said: What amuses me is when people say newbies can't kill a lich as a defense against lich themed Nightwave challenges You know what's even funnier? part of the argument against Bramma was that they were too easy to obtain and low MR players were running around with a Bramma and barely any other weapon leveled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Reifnir said: -snip- So would you agree that using Profit Taker in your point was a poor choice of example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltage Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 The Lich challenge is especially bad for those who completed that system, but then I remembered: The entire Chorewave system is bad for players who already finished the content it has you redoing. It's just a laundry list of filler things to do to pretend like the game has daily content between real updates. I wish we could go back to Alerts and weekly Tenno Reinforcements. Waiting a few months for updates like The Steel Path which only lasts a few days at best gets dry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrivaMain Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Voltage said: The Lich challenge is especially bad for those who completed that system, but then I remembered: The entire Chorewave system is bad for players who already finished the content it has you redoing. It's just a laundry list of filler things to do to pretend like the game has daily content between real updates. I wish we could go back to Alerts and weekly Tenno Reinforcements. Waiting a few months for updates like The Steel Path which only lasts a few days at best gets dry. Ah yes the “one and done” problem. DE could have mostly solve this in a myriad of ways, but when money talks they are unwilling to do it. I am thinking going through 1-3 hours of dealing with 1 lich, it should give me additional rewards in : 1. The amount of Kuva I can get from farming for 1-3 hours in other gamemodes. 2. The amount of resources I can get from farming for 1-3 hours in other gamemodes. 3. The amount of Endo I get from farming for 1-3 hours in other gamemodes. 4. The amount of Credits I get from farming for 1-3 hours in other gamemodes. etc. Add this and you can see Liches can be enticing to veterans to play besides the “Big 4 sustainable content” : Fissures, Eidolons, ESO, and Arbitrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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