[DE]Connor Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Greetings Tenno! Inaros Prime Access has blown in from the sandstorm - and with it comes a new set of Riven disposition changes! We’ve recently altered our procedure in response to player feedback, so let’s go over the numbers in a little more detail: We understand that reducing disposition on existing weapons is never popular - that’s why all new weapons since The Deadlock Protocol have been introduced with the minimum disposition of 0.5. This allows us to see how weapons perform on their own, before allowing access to more powerful Rivens. To support the thinking behind this approach - the 5 guns that have been reduced (in contrast to the 51 guns that have been increased) were all weapons released in the last year, with a higher starting disposition of 1. Starting at a lower disposition should mean we eventually reach a point where disposition reductions are very rare. The biggest changes are happening within Melee Riven dispositions, as this is only our second time altering these numbers. If you’re new to the Riven routine, or want a refresher on the procedure changes, here’s a quick recap of our system for determining numbers: With each new Prime Access, all platforms receive adjustments to the “Disposition” (aka power level) of Rivens, based on the weapons they apply to. New numbers are determined by looking at a combination of player usage stats, as well as an internal weapon power ranking we maintain. Every unique weapon has its’ own disposition, even within the same weapon family (like Braton vs. Braton Prime); these rankings are still considered in relation to one another, so players aren’t necessarily motivated to use a weaker weapon variant for a much more powerful Riven. Dispositions range from 0.5 to a little over 1.5. We will never reduce any disposition by more than 0.2 at once, but we are willing to increase some dispositions by larger values. The smallest change we will make is 0.05 - anything less and we’ll leave the disposition as-is. I think that about covers it, so let’s begin! PRIMARY: Spoiler Acceltra: 0.7->0.65 Arca Plasmor: 0.55->0.65 Astilla: 1.15->1.2 Basmu: 1->1.1 Catchmoon (primary): 0.5->0.75 Corinth: 0.95->1.05Corinth Prime: 0.95->0.9 Exergis: 1->1.05 Gaze (primary): 0.5->0.65 Hek: 1.15->1.2 Vaykor Hek: 1.05->1.1 Kuva Bramma: 0.8->0.65 Nagantaka: 1.25->1.3 Rattleguts (primary): 0.5->0.6 Rubico: 0.7->0.8 Shedu: 0.9->0.85 Soma: 1.05->1.1 Stahlta: 0.5->0.7 Tiberon: 0.95->1 Tigris: 0.85->1 Sancti Tigris: 0.75->0.85 Tigris Prime: 0.7->0.8 Tombfinger (primary): 0.5->0.6 Vectis: 1->1.05 SECONDARY: Spoiler Akarius: 1->1.05 Akbolto: 1.05->1.2 Telos Akbolto: 1->1.15 Akbolto Prime: 0.95->1.05 Aklex: 0.95->1.05 Aklex Prime: 0.8->0.85 Akmagnus: 1.28->1.35 Akstilletto: 0.65->0.8 Akstilletto Prime: 0.55->0.6 Cyanex: 0.8->0.85 Euphona Prime: 0.7->0.75 Fusilai: 1.3->1.35 Gammacor: 1.1->1.15 Synoid Gammacor: 1->1.05 Hikou: 1.25->1.3 Hikou Prime: 1.2->1.25 Kuva Kraken: 1->1.05 Lex: 1.2->1.25 Lex Prime: 1.15->1.2 Marelok: 1.1->1.2 Vaykor Marelok: 1.05->1.1 Kuva Nukor: 0.8->0.65 Ocucor: 1.15->1.2 Pandero: 1.05->1.1 Plinx: 1.15->1.2 Pox: 1.05->1.15 Pyrana: 0.7->0.8 Quatz: 1.1->1.15 Sonicor: 1.1->1.15 Spira: 1.25->1.3 Twin Rogga: 1.25->1.3 Velox: 0.5->0.8 MELEE: Spoiler Ack & Brunt: 1.1->1.25 Arca Titron: 1.1->1.2 Atterax: 0.7->0.9 Bo Prime: 1.29->1.35 Boltace: 1.15->1.2 Broken Scepter: 1.3->1.35 Broken War: 0.95->1.05 Cassowar: 1.15->1.25 Cobra & Crane: 1.15->1.25 Dark Dagger: 0.7->0.9 Rakta Dark Dagger: 0.6->0.8 Dehtat: 1.1->1.15 Dex Dakra: 1.25->1.3 Dohkram: 0.85->0.75 Dragon Nikana: 1.25->1.2 Prisma Dual Cleaver: 1.05->1.1 Dual Kamas: 1->1.15 Dual Kamas Prime: 0.95->1.05 Dual Keres: 1.35->1.2 Endura: 1.2->1.3 Falcor: 1.15->1.25 Fragor: 1.1->1.15 Fragor Prime: 0.96->1.05 Galatine: 0.7->0.85 Galatine Prime: 0.55->0.65 Galvacord: 1.15->1.25 Gram Prime: 1.25->1.05 Gunsen: 1.15->1.25 Hate: 1.25->1.2 Heliocor: 1.1->1.25 Synoid Heliocor: 1.05->1.2 Hirudo: 0.7->0.95 Jat Kittag: 0.95->1.15 Jat Kusar: 0.95->1.1 Kesheg: 1.3->1.35 Korrudo: 1.15->1.25 Kreska: 1.15->1.25 Krohkur: 1.3->1.35 Kronen Prime: 1.25->1.05 Kronsh: 1.15->1.25 Kuva Shildeg: 0.85->0.75 Ceti Lacera: 1->1.05 Lecta: 0.7->1 Secura Lecta: 0.65->0.9 Lesion: 0.55->0.65 Magistar: 1.25->1.3 Sancti Magistar: 1.15->1.2 Masseter: 1.05->1.15 Mios: 1.1->1.2 Mire: 1.35->1.3 Nami Skyla Prime: 1.1->1 Nikana: 0.7->0.8 Ninkondi Prime: 1.25->1.1 Obex: 1.25->1.3 Prisma Obex: 1.1->1.2 Ohma: 1.1->1.15 Okina: 1.31->1.4 Ooltha: 1.1->1.15 Orthos: 0.7->0.85 Orthos Prime: 0.55->0.6 Orvius: 1.25->1.3 Paracesis: 0.85->0.7 Pathocyst: 1.15->1.25 Pennant: 0.9->0.85 Plague Keewar: 0.85->0.75 Plague Kripath: 0.8->0.65 Pupacyst: 1.15->1.25 Rabvee: 1.15->1.2 Reaper Prime: 1.15->1 Redeemer Prime: 1->0.8 Scindo: 1.2->1.3 Scindo Prime: 1.15->1.25 Sepfahn: 0.9->0.75 Silva & Aegis: 1.1->1.15 Prisma Skana: 1.15->1.2 Skana Prime: 1.15->1.2 Sydon: 1->1.15 Vaykor Sydon: 0.95->1.1 Tekko Prime: 1.35->1.3 Twin Basolk: 1.25->1.3 Twin Krohkur: 1.35->1.25 Venka: 0.7->0.9 Venka Prime: 0.65->0.8 Volnus: 1.3->1.35 War: 0.7->0.9 Wolf Sledge: 1.1->1.2 Zenistar: 0.7->0.95 Thanks everyone! 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kxZyle Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Increase the lower dispo cap to 1.0. edit: Gonna use this post to highlight, to the people streaming in just to point and laugh at people's misery, what exactly the problem with our current system is: 3 hours ago, Reifnir said: As always, no fun allowed. I hate reading dispo changes. And something tells me, I'm not exactly alone. A good riven won't make an inherently bad weapon viable, a bad riven won't kill the popularity of an excellent weapon, all you're achieving is stomping player investment into the dirt. If anything, this achieves nothing. At worst, it actively reduces the playerbase, making dedicated Riven fans give up. Total, from-the-grounds-up Riven system rework when?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noobly Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Ninkondi Prime: 1.25->1.1 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)DUDE I AM WHITE Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, kxZyle said: Raise the lower dispo cap to 1.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CCC-GuessIllTake-It Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Please make Sinister Reach an Exilus mod. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vahenir Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Hmm, and suddenly the normal corinth is better than the prime version apart from the secondary fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Histori Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 No not the Paracesis 🥺 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)l Saminator l Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Vahenir said: Hmm, and suddenly the normal corinth is better than the prime version apart from the secondary fire. Looks that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nms. Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Noobly said: Ninkondi Prime: 1.25->1.1 ? It's to make sure you are paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zahnny Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, kxZyle said: Raise the lower dispo cap to 1.0. I'm in agreement. I was shocked to find how low the Imperator riven values were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thelamaking Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 3 hours ago, [DE]Connor said: Fragor: 1.1->1.15Fragor Prime: 0.96->1.15 Really now? [Redacted snarky comment, seems ok now] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyranny.of.Fun Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, kxZyle said: Raise the lower dispo cap to 1.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rh0d3s Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Now the Corinth Prime is a joke of a weapon XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMasque Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, [DE]Connor said: Akmagnus: 1.28->1.35 now this is juicy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Squanch_0n Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 What about the Nikana Prime?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-SD-Etrusco Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 vor 2 Stunden schrieb [DE]Connor: Ninkondi Prime: 1.25->1.1 Stats were lowered but it is shown as green Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Squanch_0n Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Buff the tombfinger, buff the tombfingeerr! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stahlta Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Wtf....no dispo increase for stropha? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Squanch_0n Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Ah, wierd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speedstang Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Was the Sepfahn really getting that much use? Unfortunate, although I'm quite biased towards it, heh. Nice seeing the Kitgun primaries get a boost along with a lot of underused weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanholic7 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 meh....rip reaper prime, rip paracesis,the only weapon vs sentients, rip ninkondi the one nunchakas....tekko prime nerfed too - why?? w/e. as always - sad news. Every time then balance it - its frustrating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)RWalls91 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 What about the Helstrum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-KyloRen- Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 rip † Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A7roboBOT Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 Wow, lots of increases across the board. I wasn't expecting that, but the obscure weapons can always use some more love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adem940 Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 thanks for destroying kuva weapon rivens, you might as well remove the whole riven BS all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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