Loxyen Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 12 hours ago, Xaero said: I base my assumption on universal medallion issue. pls watch this then: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyreaus Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 8 hours ago, Kontrollo said: And removing Telos Boltace would literally be the flip of a switch. Adding bots would definitely be much more work than that, and it's also a question of making sure they keep working afterwards. With how things stand now, I have no trust in DE of pulling that off. Just to be clear: I'm just saying there are some possible shortcuts that could make bot creation and maintenance easier than building from scratch for Conclave only. Realistically, of course I'm not expecting anything to get done. But I find it marginally more productive - or at least better for my mental health - to think through how bots could / should be done, rather than grinding my teeth and biting back the urge to fly over to Ontario to change one f^%king object attribute for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rann0n Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 I'm a dedicated conclave player and I'm against it. PvP rewards should be earned by doing PvP, not PvE. We already have a problem of players arranging matches just for daily/weekly tasks without any actual competition, this would make the problem even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reidenshi Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 22 hours ago, YUNoJump said: I think that would result in people deliberately making matches where they're the only player, then farming bots for easy kills until they've finished the Conclave standing off, then they'd never play again. Bots are helpful when there's a few players missing from a match, in a hypothetically more popular PvP game, but a PvP game where everyone else is bots is just a PvE game with no variation between matches. This is exactly what's going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reidenshi Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 16 hours ago, Stormdragon said: About your founder example, i wouldn't be surprised if the amount of non founders telling new players stuff like "founders will complain if their exclusives are released" are part of the reason why some new players make themselves a bad image of every single founder (and sometimes even behave awfully towards them) regardless of if they actually fit that prejudice or not. Founders are hated for possessing exclusive items. Regardless of their thoughts on the matter. That's human nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzecar Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 15 часов назад, Rann0n сказал: I'm a dedicated conclave player and I'm against it. PvP rewards should be earned by doing PvP, not PvE. Except you're not. You're just there to stomp on new players and that is one of the problems conclave currently has due to no dev attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevek7 Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Dzecar said: Except you're not. You're just there to stomp on new players and that is one of the problems conclave currently has due to no dev attention I was wondering about this! Two people in this thread claimed to be "dedicated conclave players" or "former dedicated conclave players" but I had never seen them in a single conclave match in the last 2-3 years. It makes sense if they are just abusing RC to farm new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormdragon Posted July 24, 2020 Share Posted July 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Dzecar said: 20 hours ago, Rann0n said: I'm a dedicated conclave player and I'm against it. PvP rewards should be earned by doing PvP, not PvE. We already have a problem of players arranging matches just for daily/weekly tasks without any actual competition, this would make the problem even worse. Except you're not. You're just there to stomp on new players and that is one of the problems conclave currently has due to no dev attention Tmw this has been going on since 2017. I guess that's why the name sounded familiar to me the first time i read that comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rann0n Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 On 2020-07-24 at 10:20 PM, Dzecar said: Except you're not. You're just there to stomp on new players and that is one of the problems conclave currently has due to no dev attention Only keeping my access for the cases when I can't find a match for a long time. And yeah, pretty often there are people who create new accounts just to stomp on new players, so it's not too different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rann0n Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 On 2020-07-25 at 2:51 AM, Sevek7 said: I was wondering about this! Two people in this thread claimed to be "dedicated conclave players" or "former dedicated conclave players" but I had never seen them in a single conclave match in the last 2-3 years. It makes sense if they are just abusing RC to farm new players. Are you playing in Russian region? Also, just to be fair. On 2020-07-25 at 2:51 AM, Sevek7 said: "former dedicated conclave players" but I had never seen them in a single conclave match in the last 2-3 years On 2020-07-23 at 1:58 PM, Xaero said: I've abandoned conclave in 2017 iirc Makes sense huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevek7 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Rann0n said: Are you playing in Russian region? Also, just to be fair. Makes sense huh. You would be right. It's a fair point that I don't play in Russian region, and that I wouldn't know about 2017. But... it's already been proved above that you are smurfing in recruit conditioning. So it turns out that even though I made bad arguments, the point was correct anyway. Makes sense huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rann0n Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, Sevek7 said: You would be right. It's a fair point that I don't play in Russian region, and that I wouldn't know about 2017. But... it's already been proved above that you are smurfing in recruit conditioning. So it turns out that even though I made bad arguments, the point was correct anyway. Makes sense huh. I've pointed out I'm keeping the access to not suffer waiting in empty lobby for hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)The Repo Man151 Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Rann0n said: I've pointed out I'm keeping the access to not suffer waiting in empty lobby for hours. You'd rather ruin the experience for new players than wait 5 minutes or switch to NA-W, EU, or NA-E ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rann0n Posted July 26, 2020 Share Posted July 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, (XB1)The Repo Man151 said: You'd rather ruin the experience for new players than wait 5 minutes or switch to NA-W, EU, or NA-E ? Lag issue, switching isn't a good option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachmag Posted July 27, 2020 Share Posted July 27, 2020 On 2020-07-26 at 7:18 AM, Rann0n said: I've pointed out I'm keeping the access to not suffer waiting in empty lobby for hours. Sure buddy, I'm sure it's only due to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rann0n Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 16 hours ago, Tachmag said: Sure buddy, I'm sure it's only due to that. In any case, it doesn't make me less dedicated. 😉 By the way, we're talking about a mechanic that will never be introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kontrollo Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 12 hours ago, Rann0n said: In any case, it doesn't make me less dedicated. 😉 By the way, we're talking about a mechanic that will never be introduced. Funny how you insist on that. Is the other guy your buddy who has asked you to post this? That sounds more and more likely to me. I guess we have a completely different understanding what makes someone a dedicated player. Abusing a poorly fleshed out game system to be a #$&(% to new players is not something to be proud of or to be encouraged. But hey, if we entertain that idea anyway, we can just turn it around, as well. Tell me: how can we take your opinion seriously if you haven't even made it to the highest rank? That behaviour of yours is in fact just part of the problem here, so it's no surprise that you'd be against this suggestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rann0n Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 2020-07-28 at 1:30 PM, Kontrollo said: Funny how you insist on that. Insist on what exactly? That I'm dedicated? To me it's just the definition of playing conclave a lot. Not some title or anything. On 2020-07-28 at 1:30 PM, Kontrollo said: Is the other guy your buddy who has asked you to post this? That sounds more and more likely to me. Actually, I wasn't going to post here at first since the idea is obviously something DE doesn't care about. Yet you and some other people make it look like everyone wants bots in conclave, so I wanted to show there's more than one opinion. On 2020-07-28 at 1:30 PM, Kontrollo said: Abusing a poorly fleshed out game system to be a #$&(% to new players is not something to be proud of or to be encouraged. But hey, if we entertain that idea anyway, we can just turn it around, as well. Tell me: how can we take your opinion seriously if you haven't even made it to the highest rank? To be honest, I don't really care what you think. I've given my reasoning, and if you're not satisfied, it's your problem. I'd appreciate if you stopped annoying me from now on and moved on to find something better to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyreaus Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 6 hours ago, Rann0n said: I'd appreciate if you stopped annoying me from now on and moved on to find something better to do. I'm sure the newbies you dunk on would appreciate similar. Just saying. (And yes, your apathy is duly noted.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxyen Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 2020-07-26 at 8:18 AM, Rann0n said: I've pointed out I'm keeping the access to not suffer waiting in empty lobby for hours. My dude... stop making up excuses while trying to justify your smurfing. Even back then people offered you to join them. You know.. Get in touch with real dedicated Conclave players who were out of the kiddie pool aswell. The farce of not finding any lobbies was simply bs especially back in the days when Conclave was far more populated than now. And since you never ranked up despite these offers you're making your true intention quite clear. Oh right if you don't find a lobby with an open space left, show some dedication and create one yourself. You could invite your buddy who set you up on this thread here, haven't seen him playing Conclave for quite some years aswell. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterH Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 as a guy that played mostly with friends check my profile im not a dedicated pvp player warframe pvp is kinda fun when toxic and hackers ir not in the game bots wold help PS: the discord server is kinda toxic and people ir there only to sell rep farm or pvp mods for plat so yeah no saints there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzecar Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 44 минуты назад, HunterH сказал: PS: the discord server is kinda toxic and people ir there only to sell rep farm or pvp mods for plat so yeah no saints there Do you have anything to back up your statement with? Because the rules on the server clearly state All rules under the spoiler Спойлер This server exists primarily to discuss and promote Warframe PvP content. We welcome you to ask questions and to use our LFG channel to coordinate lobbies. Many of the PvP regulars are here, and we have a substantial amount of knowledge and experience to share. We also have several dedicated server hosts who would be glad to help anyone interested in that subject. If you are here for the Conclave School bus, check out #session_scheduling for information and session times! We also welcome you to check out the Warframe PvP subreddit at https://www.reddit.com/r/warframepvp/ General Rules: 1) No abusive or harassing comments. 2) No hate speech or racial slurs. 3) No pornography or explicit sexualized imagery, or other images meant only to be offensive. 4) Use common sense. No illegal content or suggestions about illegal activities. 5) No witch-hunting/naming-and-shaming or dev bashing. Criticism is fine but bashing others is not. 6) Keep things civil. This is a PvP-focused server and things can get heated, but this is not the place to bring issues with other individuals. 7) If another server member says they are bothered or offended by things you are saying about/to them, stop. 😎 If a Moderator or Chat Mod asks you to stop, stop. 9) Do not post invite links to other Discord servers without asking the mods first, and do not spam links to any Discord server. 10) No chat spam. Minor violations of these rules will result in a warning. The next offense or larger violations will result in a temporary mute, the duration of which is up to the acting mod. Blatant offenses and repeat offenders may result in a kick or ban. Attempts to circumvent a ban with alt accounts will result in a ban. Anyone who violates those gets banned. No exceptions. I call BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevek7 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, HunterH said: PS: the discord server is kinda toxic and people ir there only to sell rep farm or pvp mods for plat so yeah no saints there Selling rep farm is a bannable offense in the discord server and is taken very seriously. As @Dzecar mentioned, you either made this up or you joined the wrong server. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rann0n Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Loxyen said: Even back then people offered you to join them. What are you even talking about? Who offered me to join what? 1 hour ago, Loxyen said: You know.. Get in touch with real dedicated Conclave players who were out of the kiddie pool aswell. For what? Talking? Not interested. Playing? Assuming everyone quoting me non-stop is the same discord conclave gang, you're not playing in Russian region. Right? Why should I play with you at ping 300? 1 hour ago, Loxyen said: Oh right if you don't find a lobby with an open space left, show some dedication and create one yourself. That's basically what I do for 30+ minutes every time. 1 hour ago, Loxyen said: You could invite your buddy who set you up on this thread here, haven't seen him playing Conclave for quite some years aswell. 😉 You people keep mentioning friends and buddies while 3 of you are posting identical stuff and slap upvotes to each other all the time. What a coincidence. Wish I had buddies like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevek7 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Rann0n said: You people keep mentioning friends and buddies while 3 of you are posting identical stuff and slap upvotes to each other all the time. What a coincidence. Wish I had buddies like you. People upvote things that they agree with. You chose to come post here in the conclave forum with your extremely obvious history of abusing new players. Don't be surprised that 99.9% of players do not like that, and therefore agree with each other denouncing you. There is no conspiracy here, you have brought this on yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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