Discussion and Feedback on the Helminth Chrysalis - The most shocking feature ever revealed?

[DarthRednax]

1 minute ago, (PS4)ITS_TH3GOD said:

not when they have the safety net of only using trash abilities

if they keep to there 1 per frame then they cant guarantee this. If they just don't allow frames without bad abilities then sure, we could end up with 20 variations of chromas 1

[Aadi880]

I think here's the abilities we'll get to transfer(speculation):

Loki's switch teleport.
Ash's teleport
Ivara's navigator
Saryn's toxic lash
Atlas's shield.
Titania's spellbind.
Mirage's... passive???
Grendel's Nourish but not needing someone in belly.
Gauss's kinetic plating.
Chroma's 1 or his vex armor, idk.
Mesa's shatter shield.
Trinity's well of life / link.
Wisp's breach surge.
 

[(PSN)ITS_TH3GOD]

1 minute ago, DarthRednax said:

if they keep to there 1 per frame then they cant guarantee this. If they just don't allow frames without bad abilities then sure, we could end up with 20 variations of chromas 1

well true

[DarthRednax]

saryn has been confirmed for her decoy

guass is going to be his 3, his kinetic plating relies too heavily on his battery.

chroma will not be vex

other then that it looks fairly reasonable

[ShogunGunshow]

I look forward to DE's future internal discussions where they're actively watering down abilities for upcoming frames out of nervousness that the subsumed one might end up breaking the game.

[Vlada91]

7 hours ago, Oreades said:

So yeah we could really use that list of moves we can extract from frames ASAP so we don't get hit with double whammy timegating. Without having to guess what is going to end up on the signiture abilities no-no list? 

Yea that wuold bee useful to know on time, and hoping that we can collect at least 2 powers from that 1 frame... So that we can have better options to choose... 

[(PSN)ITS_TH3GOD]

1 minute ago, Aadi880 said:

I think here's the abilities we'll get to transfer(speculation):

Loki's switch teleport.
Ash's teleport
Ivara's navigator
Saryn's toxic lash
Atlas's shield.
Titania's spellbind.
Mirage's... passive???
Grendel's Nourish but not needing someone in belly.
Gauss's kinetic plating.
Chroma's 1 or his vex armor, idk.
Mesa's shatter shield.
Trinity's well of life / link.
Wisp's breach surge.
 

ehhh ash's teleport is quite powerful with the augment, most likely it'll be his invisibility

for chroma it'll definitely be his 1

[Lutesque]

20 minutes ago, Butterfly85 said:

Now we need to wait and see what abilities we can and can't transfer. Personally I'm hoping I can put stuff like descecrate on tanky frames, but we'll see.

Rebecca Specifically said Desecrate would not be transferable... She called it out by name. You know S#&$s real when they call it out by name 😮

13 minutes ago, ShogunGunshow said:

Bring on the Gauss with Firewalk for Sanic memes.

Finally !!! A Creative Tenno 😉 !!!

 

[Markus-Aleksandr]

5 minutes ago, (PS4)ITS_TH3GOD said:

did they show any of them though?

What was shown was "Companion Heal," "Empower," "Infested Mobility," and "Rebuild Shields"

Empower I believe was increasing the power of the next ability cast.

Edit: and considering it looks like they're doing a 'ranking' system with the Helminth, I imagine there'll be more new abilities to choose from down the line.

[(PSN)ITS_TH3GOD]

1 minute ago, ShogunGunshow said:

I look forward to DE's future internal discussions where they're actively watering down abilities for upcoming frames out of nervousness that the subsumed one might end up breaking the game.

oh i know right lol, which will suck

[schilds]

It's also possible the transferred abilities will be adjusted in some fashion.

[DarthRednax]

We can just hope that eventually chroma will get a rework that makes his 1 usable

[Butterfly85]

Just now, Lutesque said:

Rebecca Specifically said Desecrate would not be transferable... She called it out by name. You know S#&$s real when they call it out by name 😮

Finally !!! A Creative Tenno 😉 !!!

 

Balls. Oh well, it probably would have been utterly busted on Inaros anyway 😂😂😂

[(PSN)ITS_TH3GOD]

Just now, schilds said:

It's also possible the transferred abilities will be adjusted in some fashion.

i actually never thought of that possibility.

[Aadi880]

il y a 1 minute, (PS4)ITS_TH3GOD a dit :

ehhh ash's teleport is quite powerful with the augment, most likely it'll be his invisibility

Dunno really. Smoke Screen feels kinda signature-ish to the concept of ash.

Though, teleport is one of his most used abilities, so idk really.

[(PSN)ITS_TH3GOD]

Just now, Aadi880 said:

Dunno really. Smoke Screen feels kinda signature-ish to the concept of ash.

Though, teleport is one of his most used abilities, so idk really.

hmm, you're right.. ash's whole thing is being a ninja assassin, but i see his 3 being too good to actually be tradable, especially when you can also use that specific ability's augments

[Lutesque]

4 minutes ago, Butterfly85 said:

Balls. Oh well, it probably would have been utterly busted on Inaros anyway 😂😂😂

Inaros ?

Nope... Mirage is a Solid Candidate....

She can Cast her 2 to Boob Trap stuff that kills enemies... those enemies then drop more items she can booby trap to kill more enemies... who drop even more stuff that she can booby trap-.... and so on.

 

[Rekkou]

I'm gonna take a guess that signature ability is an important/powerful ability. They only call it "signature" to avoid calling infusable ability as weak / unimportant ability

[Aadi880]

DE can always throw in passives if they think any other ability is gets too strong.

[Vesiga]

1 hour ago, Aadi880 said:

I think here's the abilities we'll get to transfer(speculation):

Loki's switch teleport.
Ash's teleport
Ivara's navigator
Saryn's toxic lash
Atlas's shield.
Titania's spellbind.
Mirage's... passive???
Grendel's Nourish but not needing someone in belly.
Gauss's kinetic plating.
Chroma's 1 or his vex armor, idk.
Mesa's shatter shield.
Trinity's well of life / link.
Wisp's breach surge.
 

Saryns was confirmed to be Molt
Nezha Firewalker
Frost ice wave
Volt shock

[kwlingo]

All the elemental frames will be their base element ability Volt, Ember, Frost, Hydroid, and Inaros (all their first abilities). Just expect the least useful ability and you will probably be right.

[PoisonHD]

I'm just not looking forward to having to farm two of every new frame that comes out. Lots of simaris grinding for quest frames...

On topic though, any ability that you think of when you think of the frame would be considered signature. Nezha for instance, I see the big freaking ring on his back and immediately thing Blazing Chakram and Warding Halo

[Aldain]

17 minutes ago, DarthRednax said:

guass is going to be his 3

...Why do I feel an insane urge to put that on Frost if that turns out to be the case?

[(PSN)ITS_TH3GOD]

4 minutes ago, Vesiga said:

Saryns was confirmed to be Molt
Nezha Firewalker
Frost ice wave
Volt shock

all but saryn's ability are useless

[Lutesque]

People are underestimating Ivara's Navigator's Potential for Trivializing certain things.

Which is understandable because The Ability is merely okay on Ivara herself.... 

That wont be the case if you give it too Protea or Harrow or Trinity.

16 minutes ago, DarthRednax said:

guass is going to be his 3, his kinetic plating relies too heavily on his battery.

True... but let's be honest... the real reason we cant have it is because its Free Energy... Rage but for Shields instead of Health.... 

19 minutes ago, ShogunGunshow said:

I look forward to DE's future internal discussions where they're actively watering down abilities for upcoming frames out of nervousness that the subsumed one might end up breaking the game.

This is the most likely case for Harrow, Nova, Limbo, Protea and Gauss since anything they can offer his good... hell you can even throw in Mirage if you want to...

19 minutes ago, schilds said:

It's also possible the transferred abilities will be adjusted in some fashion.

You can bet on it.