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8 minutes ago, (PS4)guzmantt1977 said:

They probably hadn't completed the integration. Some of Jordas was still in there, but he was pretty badly gone by that point. 

they had whole 100s or centuries of years to infest the ship to make it functional, how did an infested of the nano couldn't do it get their job done right yet we got Heart of Demios become an actual planet that actually went off being whole planet?  the ship wasn't able take over the laser gun or able produce some billions projectiles or guns of it's own all the way.  This pretty much seem that they can't really take over all the machines so it is presumed as to be that is why all these mechs are not infected....

Then again I could smash them all together making a infected cyborg mech making it like a dino infected mech just like how infected Alad V was.

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Anyway bandages my wound from small time event, lets try keep up talking about the 1st mech.  Do you think will the dev let us keep the mech and do fun stuff around or is it going be the new body of Ordis that he is going jack around that suit and collecting bones and bone marrow while he is trying figure out adding more bone to the mech suit....that would be fun to watch.

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3 hours ago, ChaoticEdge said:

they had whole 100s or centuries of years to infest the ship to make it functional, how did an infested of the nano couldn't do it get their job done right yet we got Heart of Demios become an actual planet that actually went off being whole planet?  the ship wasn't able take over the laser gun or able produce some billions projectiles or guns of it's own all the way.  This pretty much seem that they can't really take over all the machines so it is presumed as to be that is why all these mechs are not infected....

Then again I could smash them all together making a infected cyborg mech making it like a dino infected mech just like how infected Alad V was.

No they didn't?

Jordas is affected by the Mutalist Strain, which was created by Alad V in the modern day.

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16 minutes ago, Loza03 said:

No they didn't?

Jordas is affected by the Mutalist Strain, which was created by Alad V in the modern day.

It sum it up pretty much not really created by Alad V even thou he was infected for he only created 4 new enemies that are MOA, the fly drone and whatever that monkey looking ape  that release giant ticks and the one send out hatchlings egg on the ground.  They weren't made all he way by Alad V some of the infested learn to evolved but never got chance fully understanding technology because once they get a host they will provide information it is like data storage but require for them keep alive or either control their action long enough.

The infested planet didn't took over more then all the orokin technology for seen in the video it show that they weren't able control any further instructor.  As again, the machine we see in the video seem able sub-stain themselves long enough even the infection is all over the place for they would of been infected long ago but some odd reason the infested didn't took over the mech that is on the ground that been there centuries.  It seem that the mech has a following up cannot able handle some strange force for it could be made out different element that we may not know of for we didn't have enough time observed why these mech are not infected at all in the 1st place.

More I wonder for more I am guessing in theories for it could be possible that it must of made out of Tau and Void essence which we have the Void Relic being locked until reviving energy of the void for it could be the same materials it is made from.

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3 minutes ago, ChaoticEdge said:

It sum it up pretty much not really created by Alad V even thou he was infected for he only created 4 new enemies that are MOA, the fly drone and whatever that monkey looking ape  that release giant ticks and the one send out hatchlings egg on the ground.  They weren't made all he way by Alad V some of the infested learn to evolved but never got chance fully understanding technology because once they get a host they will provide information it is like data storage but require for them keep alive or either control their action long enough.

Source?

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1 hour ago, ChaoticEdge said:

Do you think will the dev let us keep the mech

There was an interview MMObomb supposedly did where DE confirmed that it was one of the customizable things like Zaws Kitguns and K-drives and can be called down like Archwings/Archguns and K-drives.

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37 minutes ago, Loza03 said:

Source?

Tau is element been used by the sentient and the lore that was told back then that Tau is rare metal resources like the Forma that created well all this orokin made that is out of gold color, this is pretty much is might be the source of small power but Void essence is already evident we get it from void relic runs and these are resource unknown materials.  The Tau element seem to be a source of shaping how the user wanted it to be probably that why we got blue orokins or the blue man group to spin the joke here.

The Void relic could be made the very same materials which the sentient try kill the orokin because the orokin wanted harvest these Tau element and has turn their back on them.  We have evident cephlons were converted from human being and whoever drink the kuva just go mad ape as they transform to be part either the ship, RJ, some building and now we got evident that possible these talking bots are really cephlon in disguised sort of remind me about Destiny 2 some odd reason.  Hey not time to think about that but focus about the mech is it made from the same materials like the orokin has in plan making machine out of these Tau element and Void essence.  The evident it is could be true for the orokin try nuke the sentient with a virus the infested in the 1st place that is why Eris is infested by this and Derlict ship is as well for seeing that according by that seem a failure of accident but they did try it on the sentient before for it didn't effect them at all for the infested only infected living beings and minor machines that can be used or able fit it's craves in those hole like a crab's meat but think that meat is the infested in this game and that is how much the infested able infest in because they will use metal to be partly armor but some odd reason got stupid idea to actually have the flesh meat to be on the outside.

Anyway The Tau element are not infected at all and if it was then we would of seen infected sentient all over the system already as the ppl would of rely on the warframe and tenno a lot.  This isn't far fetch or either a theory for it is truth about the Tau elemental for it cannot be consumed by the infected that is why the orokin's vault was never touch by infested which also hinting void essence was in the room which we did witness orokin ship in the void has no infected ship in there.  These are the main source that is why the mech suit is not infected for it would of explain why the sentient were looking almost like these mechs we see

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Symbilyst

yet their design is almost similar for it would explain it why the sentient were able evolved better and over power the warframe and orokin as they rely on the tenno or known as void children.  It seems that the orokin were also study about this void essence from the start and had already made progress early before.  It would seem the tenno or the orokin's zeiromen ship was no accident for sure, for it seem this was an experiment they started to do.

Just now, Aldain said:

There was an interview MMObomb supposedly did where DE confirmed that it was one of the customizable things like Zaws Kitguns and K-drives and can be called down like Archwings/Archguns and K-drives.

So your saying it is possible this might end up being our call down mech suit in the future reference or there is doubt that this won't be it.

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4 minutes ago, ChaoticEdge said:

So your saying it is possible this might end up being our call down mech suit in the future reference or there is doubt that this won't be it.

This is the article in question:

https://www.mmobomb.com/news/digital-extremes-reveals-heart-deimos-expansion-swapping-warframe-abilities-coming-august-25/

Specifically near the bottom of it it states the following:

"Another interesting feature being added to the game is the Necromech systsem. This system allows players to use their operator to control a powerful mech that may be handy when dealing with the stronger Infested. These mechs can be commandeered on Damios, but players can also obtain one of their own that they can keep in their inventory and summon for use."

So yeah, I'd take this as a conformation.

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4 minutes ago, ChaoticEdge said:

Tau is element been used by the sentient and the lore that was told back then that Tau is rare metal resources like the Forma that created well all this orokin made that is out of gold color, this is pretty much is might be the source of small power but Void essence is already evident we get it from void relic runs and these are resource unknown materials.  The Tau element seem to be a source of shaping how the user wanted it to be probably that why we got blue orokins or the blue man group to spin the joke here.

The Void relic could be made the very same materials which the sentient try kill the orokin because the orokin wanted harvest these Tau element and has turn their back on them.  We have evident cephlons were converted from human being and whoever drink the kuva just go mad ape as they transform to be part either the ship, RJ, some building and now we got evident that possible these talking bots are really cephlon in disguised sort of remind me about Destiny 2 some odd reason.  Hey not time to think about that but focus about the mech is it made from the same materials like the orokin has in plan making machine out of these Tau element and Void essence.  The evident it is could be true for the orokin try nuke the sentient with a virus the infested in the 1st place that is why Eris is infested by this and Derlict ship is as well for seeing that according by that seem a failure of accident but they did try it on the sentient before for it didn't effect them at all for the infested only infected living beings and minor machines that can be used or able fit it's craves in those hole like a crab's meat but think that meat is the infested in this game and that is how much the infested able infest in because they will use metal to be partly armor but some odd reason got stupid idea to actually have the flesh meat to be on the outside.

Anyway The Tau element are not infected at all and if it was then we would of seen infected sentient all over the system already as the ppl would of rely on the warframe and tenno a lot.  This isn't far fetch or either a theory for it is truth about the Tau elemental for it cannot be consumed by the infected that is why the orokin's vault was never touch by infested which also hinting void essence was in the room which we did witness orokin ship in the void has no infected ship in there.  These are the main source that is why the mech suit is not infected for it would of explain why the sentient were looking almost like these mechs we see

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Symbilyst

yet their design is almost similar for it would explain it why the sentient were able evolved better and over power the warframe and orokin as they rely on the tenno or known as void children.  It seems that the orokin were also study about this void essence from the start and had already made progress early before.  It would seem the tenno or the orokin's zeiromen ship was no accident for sure, for it seem this was an experiment they started to do.

And...

This proves that Alad didn't create the Mutalist strain how exactly? It seems to be tangential lore unrelated to the question at hand.

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6 minutes ago, Aldain said:

This is the article in question:

https://www.mmobomb.com/news/digital-extremes-reveals-heart-deimos-expansion-swapping-warframe-abilities-coming-august-25/

Specifically near the bottom of it it states the following:

"Another interesting feature being added to the game is the Necromech systsem. This system allows players to use their operator to control a powerful mech that may be handy when dealing with the stronger Infested. These mechs can be commandeered on Damios, but players can also obtain one of their own that they can keep in their inventory and summon for use."

So yeah, I'd take this as a conformation.

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5 minutes ago, Loza03 said:

And...

This proves that Alad didn't create the Mutalist strain how exactly? It seems to be tangential lore unrelated to the question at hand.

Well the Mutalist strain was reinvented but it was used during back then for it explain about by Ballas how the warframe come about being infected host for simliar Mutalist Strain but evident found that Mesa was being used by Mutalist Alad V which this concluded he was being possess and had done research about it about the warframe.  If you think about it he was using Zanuka out of warframe parts and it's abilities for this was reinvented for he didn't invented at all for Ballas did pointed out they use the infested to their uses so in other words in the orokin derlict ship it is also has part another orokin that 3 headed guys that has Nekros's bp.  They were made almost simliar same string like Jordas golem that fart space monster and it was before Alad did it.  It seem that the infested is unqiue seperate Hive mind which we have no clue why is it acting this way for the hive mind speaks a lot and each time we try kill a hive mind it seem another takes it's place which it seem like myth story "Hydra" a serpent's head that is cut off for 2 more head takes it's place.  For it is seem that the infested aren't stupid or pure stupidness like cave men are for these infested are like the halo flood for it has a hive mind and using many hive mind as they never revealed the real hive mind.

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On 2020-08-01 at 9:50 PM, Felsagger said:

We can have tenno drops from our Railjack. 

We can have railjack artillery support with cool downs. 

We can have a variety of modular mechs like the kit guns so we define our play style. 

We will get a complete set of tools for Duviri's Paradox and vehicles/rides for the tenno. 

 

Warframe becomes interesting again. The player will have lots of things for sure. 

Like so...?

 

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On 2020-08-01 at 9:50 PM, Felsagger said:

We can have tenno drops from our Railjack. 

We can have railjack artillery support with cool downs. 

We can have a variety of modular mechs like the kit guns so we define our play style. 

We will get a complete set of tools for Duviri's Paradox and vehicles/rides for the tenno. 

 

Warframe becomes interesting again. The player will have lots of things for sure. 

Maybe this is more what you had in mind: 

 

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29 minutes ago, ChaoticEdge said:

Well the Mutalist strain was reinvented but it was used during back then for it explain about by Ballas how the warframe come about being infected host for simliar Mutalist Strain but evident found that Mesa was being used by Mutalist Alad V which this concluded he was being possess and had done research about it about the warframe.  If you think about it he was using Zanuka out of warframe parts and it's abilities for this was reinvented for he didn't invented at all for Ballas did pointed out they use the infested to their uses so in other words in the orokin derlict ship it is also has part another orokin that 3 headed guys that has Nekros's bp.  They were made almost simliar same string like Jordas golem that fart space monster and it was before Alad did it.  It seem that the infested is unqiue seperate Hive mind which we have no clue why is it acting this way for the hive mind speaks a lot and each time we try kill a hive mind it seem another takes it's place which it seem like myth story "Hydra" a serpent's head that is cut off for 2 more head takes it's place.  For it is seem that the infested aren't stupid or pure stupidness like cave men are for these infested are like the halo flood for it has a hive mind and using many hive mind as they never revealed the real hive mind.

The Vitruvian entries say nothing about the Mutalist Strain. At all. It only depicts humans getting Infested, which is well within any form of the Infestations capabilities. Not to mention that the specific strain mentioned was almost certainly the Helminth strain (not mutalist). Likewise, Lephantis does not show any signs of incorporating Mechanics into its mass, as the Corpus head is clearly derived from a Corpus Crewmen, which are humans.

The Mutalist strain is a kind of Infestation that can infest robotics and AI and turn them into infested creatures, rather than simply using them as material. This is why Jordas is able to be Infested - he and his ship were turned into a large Infested creature, the Jordas Golem.

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Just now, Aldain said:

Unrelated, but MAN I HOPE WE CAN USE THESE IN RAILJACK AT SOME POINT.

Like a high-combat alternative to the high-mobility of Archwing.

I hope we can use them in tilesets.

We can't use K-drives because they'd be difficult to control in tight spaces, sure, but these things don't seem too prohibitively big to fit through doors.

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12 minutes ago, Loza03 said:

The Vitruvian entries say nothing about the Mutalist Strain. At all. It only depicts humans getting Infested, which is well within any form of the Infestations capabilities. Not to mention that the specific strain mentioned was almost certainly the Helminth strain (not mutalist). Likewise, Lephantis does not show any signs of incorporating Mechanics into its mass, as the Corpus head is clearly derived from a Corpus Crewmen, which are humans.

The Mutalist strain is a kind of Infestation that can infest robotics and AI and turn them into infested creatures, rather than simply using them as material. This is why Jordas is able to be Infested - he and his ship were turned into a large Infested creature, the Jordas Golem.

If you think about it Jordas Golem infected a cephlon, this means it wasn't pure mutalist strain, if you take nano spore these are machine or bio?  True answer is really both, this was still letting warframe to be like mutalist strain for it is different strain.  Even thou mutalist strain is used for machine it doesn't mean warframe isnt part machine for there been cyborg enhancement here and there even on it for corpus were able get infected by it even they are part cyborg for it seem that it still consumed them.  Which the infested is learning and trying seek out who has that great knowledge to provide that juicy knowledge  to make improvement of the strain and they found their lost pieces thanks to alad v which he let the thing reinvent itself.  Keep this in mind Alad V is part cyborg and he shouldn't be infected but probably his organs more likely but somehow it effected his brain somehow even thou they should of been ok to certain point.

Anyway the topic is going south for we aren't staying topic but lets keep on talking about the mech.

The mech right now are settled and not be infected due of must be made out Tau for sure, even the infested try temp use mutalist strain on it it will not do anything still for it can't effect Tau element just think it as automated defense system that kills infected parts which it is proven it is really deadly against infested which I ran simulator room on these infested vs sentient and they whip the floor with them like it was nothing for it is swatting a fly that is being annoying.

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Just now, ChaoticEdge said:

f you think about it Jordas Golem infected a cephlon, this means it wasn't pure mutalist strain, if you take nano spore these are machine or bio?  True answer is really both, this was still letting warframe to be like mutalist strain for it is different strain.  Even thou mutalist strain is used for machine it doesn't mean warframe isnt part machine for there been cyborg enhancement here and there even on it for corpus were able get infected by it even they are part cyborg for it seem that it still consumed them.  Which the infested is learning and trying seek out who has that great knowledge to provide that juicy knowledge  to make improvement of the strain and they found their lost pieces thanks to alad v which he let the thing reinvent itself.  Keep this in mind Alad V is part cyborg and he shouldn't be infected but probably his organs more likely but somehow it effected his brain somehow even thou they should of been ok to certain point.

Ok, my final thoughts.

Infesting computers is literally what defines the Mutalist strain.  All Infestation is techno-organic (the material is called Technocyte after all), which is why it can grow on metal, but the Mutalist strain which was created by Alad V can interface and directly infect and control computers and data, enabling the Infestation to produce infested creatures from them.

You have consistently failed to give actual sources that the Mutalist strain existed prior to Alad V. Meanwhile, I can - Alad V himself confirms that he created the Mutalist strain.

Therefore, Jordas cannot have been infested longer than the Mutalist Strains existence.

 

 

Alright. I'm done. Something something Titanfall memes. 

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25 minutes ago, Loza03 said:

Ok, my final thoughts.

Infesting computers is literally what defines the Mutalist strain.  All Infestation is techno-organic (the material is called Technocyte after all), which is why it can grow on metal, but the Mutalist strain which was created by Alad V can interface and directly infect and control computers and data, enabling the Infestation to produce infested creatures from them.

You have consistently failed to give actual sources that the Mutalist strain existed prior to Alad V. Meanwhile, I can - Alad V himself confirms that he created the Mutalist strain.

Therefore, Jordas cannot have been infested longer than the Mutalist Strains existence.

 

 

Alright. I'm done. Something something Titanfall memes. 

1 problem, The Heart of Demois is technology and it is orokin, think that back logically.  The infested arrived there 1st  for they were unable contact anyone out there, the machine they had was those necromech to defend the place, pretty much if you hadn't close idea about it the mutalist strain was developed before Alad V got there, for it seem he was missing link that actually can think and configure things out let say orokin lost described data is crack soo hard and too rough the infested try read the rest of the data but couldn't get it because the original owner well let say explode or got self destroyed and all the infested try learn unknown mutalist strain so they could take over robotic or try to anyway.  Keep this in mind Eris wasn't converted purely infested for mutalist strain would of had in the 1st place but it seems that they are only converting some...come think about it I don't think they were able to use mutalist strain on orokin's vault in the 1st place or other wise the whole orokin's ship would of be functional and would of thought to use the laser that giving random energy for they would of make it battle cruiser but infected ship but it seem the infested are still too dumb use man made weapons anyway...still got that grineer with jetpack somehow able teach it how to use it still but to the main subject.  The reason why the mutalist wouldn't able control either the machine is made out of Tau that utterly can kill infested without no problem for it did proven my point about Tau element about these infested can't even control which if there were infected sentient they would be all over the system destroying life itself.

Moving on Jordas is still from the hive mind and able get data or memories how create it's own mutalist if you keep this in mind that it was trying to by borrowing random broken down junk machine and this close to become planet size infested if we did let it roam itself alone for it would of become battle cruiser in space but infected like the horror game like that game that has tons infested and need cut it with plasma cutter gun only and impossible be killed even in the head you know I mean Dead Space.  It would of turn something like that but was not able to actually infected fully function of machine.

It seem that if cephlon is crack they could possible be infected for unknown status about it to be sure but it seem that Ordis is not infected by the flo- I mean infested for that stupid nano spores spraying all over our ship :awkward: but it seem that machine cannot be infected purely about it.  It seem the mutalist strain isn't fully perfected for Alad V had his moment fighting the infestation in his mind for I am guessing he knew where not give it full satisfied what it wants but think about it the Hive still have the data about it for it seem able still keep in itself in Eris and only able spread certain system until itself find the right area to do it's busniess.

The Heart of Domieos did show the mutalist strain is on that planet for that means it is possible that someone on that planet was the responsible to be the one who sent more infested or making movement of theirs but it seem they only want someone's brain truely be connected to the hive.  Someone who actually uses this data and did pull the string of Alad V if you think about it if the main hive mind is dead for I wonder what if these hive mind start fighting each other or will they obey like bee hive saying hail to the queen.  it would explain it why the Mech was put into place to stop the infected in the 1st start and some protocall must of hidden in the agenda.

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10 minutes ago, ChaoticEdge said:

1 problem, The Heart of Demois is technology and it is orokin, think that back logically.  The infested arrived there 1st  for they were unable contact anyone out there, the machine they had was those necromech to defend the place, pretty much if you hadn't close idea about it the mutalist strain was developed before Alad V got there, for it seem he was missing link that actually can think and configure things out let say orokin lost described data is crack soo hard and too rough the infested try read the rest of the data but couldn't get it because the original owner well let say explode or got self destroyed and all the infested try learn unknown mutalist strain so they could take over robotic or try to anyway.  Keep this in mind Eris wasn't converted purely infested for mutalist strain would of had in the 1st place but it seems that they are only converting some...come think about it I don't think they were able to use mutalist strain on orokin's vault in the 1st place or other wise the whole orokin's ship would of be functional and would of thought to use the laser that giving random energy for they would of make it battle cruiser but infected ship but it seem the infested are still too dumb use man made weapons anyway...still got that grineer with jetpack somehow able teach it how to use it still but to the main subject.  The reason why the mutalist wouldn't able control either the machine is made out of Tau that utterly can kill infested without no problem for it did proven my point about Tau element about these infested can't even control which if there were infected sentient they would be all over the system destroying life itself.

I thought we were done? I gave my final thoughts.

It's well documented that the infestation can grow on metal, but it's unable to actually make it into an infested organism. That's what the mutalist strain does.  Unless you have a source, everything else you're saying here is speculation.

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37 minutes ago, (PS4)Kakurine2 said:

So our gundams get even bigger gundams? Or would it be a mobile armor attatchment?

From what the short scene shows it might be more like hopping out of a smaller Mech into a bigger one.

Though that might be because in the scene they showed we void-hijacked a wrecked one and glued it together with space magic...assuming we construct one that might change though.

I could see it going either way...and if we do need to leave our Warframe to use it I am happy too because that means Umbra can be on the ground in a reverse Titanfall moment.

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7 minutes ago, Aldain said:

From what the short scene shows it might be more like hopping out of a smaller Mech into a bigger one.

Though that might be because in the scene they showed we void-hijacked a wrecked one and glued it together with space magic...assuming we construct one that might change though.

I could see it going either way...and if we do need to leave our Warframe to use it I am happy too because that means Umbra can be on the ground in a reverse Titanfall moment.

That wastes all the non umbras though. I would rather we hop into the gundam or it attatch to our warframes.

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6 minutes ago, Aldain said:

From what the short scene shows it might be more like hopping out of a smaller Mech into a bigger one.

Though that might be because in the scene they showed we void-hijacked a wrecked one and glued it together with space magic...assuming we construct one that might change though.

I could see it going either way...and if we do need to leave our Warframe to use it I am happy too because that means Umbra can be on the ground in a reverse Titanfall moment.

Ok, but whilst it's been indicated that Celestial Twin is not gonna be Wukong's donated power, imagine if it was/is.

The Infested just turn around to see a mech suit and two angry sword bois charging them down.

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