Is limbo get secret rework or something?

[superiouz 294]

 

I try to unveil riven ( Complete a defense mission with level 30 or higher enemies without the defense objective taking any damage.) 

i pick limbo, I go to hydron and akkad, Press 2 and 4 in defense objective but the riven always fail. Idk what wrong, The enemy is not moving, I dont get damage, But then i notice the defense still get damage from bullet outside the bubble. I try multiple time and build. But the result is still the same. 

is limbo got change or something? 

is it because they said they will tweak limbo abilities to work with the next update? Or is it just bugs? 

sori if my english is not good. 

[Traumtulpe 2,789]

1 hour ago, superiouz said:

Or is it just bugs?

Apparently the defense target at Hydron is bugged. The Grineer were indeed able to shoot it from outside the Cataclysm (they are not supposed to). Grenades didn't deal any damage though. I suspect this may be caused by it's mobile position.

I tried Stephano for comparison, the defense target took no damage whatsoever (as expected).

[yazaab 5]

I've seen that happen as well but this was over a year ago.

I thought it was because that the cataclysm does deal it's own damage and that might affect the objective accidentally

[Captain_Rocket505 544]

There's a delay when casting his 4 and when the bubble shows up, so it might be because of that. Or it also could be a bug, so I'd try again and see what happens. Also it could be the bubbles range isn't big enough to cover the objective. I suggest giving it a bit of range, or trying a sortie defense mission. The objective is a moving character so you can use banish on him, and basically remove the need for using your 4.

Edited August 8, 2020 by Captain_Rocket505
Added stuff

[superiouz 294]

2 minutes ago, yazaab said:

I've seen that happen as well but this was over a year ago.

I thought it was because that the cataclysm does deal it's own damage and that might affect the objective accidentally

i try akkad, the second i kill runner, its explode then the riven fail.

1 minute ago, Captain_Rocket505 said:

There's a delay when casting his 4 and when the bubble shows up, so it might be because of that. Or it also could be a bug, so I'd try again and see what happens. 

i know there is a delay, the problem is i notice the defense got damage after i sure i put 2 and 4.

[Rawbeard 6,279]

how big is your cataclysm? if enemies attack it from outside, it will obviously take damage

[superiouz 294]

3 minutes ago, Rawbeard said:

how big is your cataclysm? if enemies attack it from outside, it will obviously take damage

oh. that new for me, bc before i always use limbo and dont failed or take damage.

before i use 49 range.

now i use multiple range, 100, 49, 189,

i also use cataclysmic continuum

all fail

yes enemy attack from outside the bubble. inside bubble they all not moving.

thank for answer. so basically i was wrong understanding the limbo abilities.

[Daank09 11]

Cataclysm is not always reliable to get a defense objective completely undamaged in a mission, theres always gaps in his abilities where enemies can attack.

If you still cant unveil the riven, i suggest going to an infested defense and using banshee's 4th ability with her augment, enemies won't even come close to the defense room.

[superiouz 294]

6 minutes ago, Daank09 said:

Cataclysm is not always reliable to get a defense objective completely undamaged in a mission, theres always gaps in his abilities where enemies can attack.

If you still cant unveil the riven, i suggest going to an infested defense and using banshee's 4th ability with her augment, enemies won't even come close to the defense room.

yes i know there is gap delay. its not because of that.

because i notice , after i succesfuly put 2 and 4

the shield ( defense objective ) still get damage from outside. even after 10-20 second later.

its still get damage. not just 1-2 sec.

 

i dont get damage tho, only defense objective.

 

the riven now is unveild

i use vauban and his augment.

thankyou for the tips and the answers

Edited August 8, 2020 by superiouz
some detail

[Hypnos 193]

the objective is outside of his bubble even if you put on the top of it so bullets etc might still dmg it from outside. doing infested mission would be better for this rivenchallange

[superiouz 294]

2 minutes ago, Hypnos said:

the objective is outside of his bubble even if you put on the top of it so bullets etc might still dmg it from outside. doing infested mission would be better for this rivenchallange

alright. so the problem is me.

thankyou for anwers.

[Lutesque 4,162]

I had the same thing happen to me multiple times...

Jump into defender... cast Cataclysm and before Any Enemy gets close the Riven Challenge fails instantly...

Either it's a Bug or a Nerf...

Just like the bug that allows the Challenge to succeed if you join a defender that's already in Progress... Even if it does take damage...

Either way my Solution was to use Umbral Frost on Akkad.... Place Bubble... Place Spectre... Spam 4 .... Spam all Sources of Energy... Grofit 😎

Can't wait for the next Limbo Nerf.

[superiouz 294]

1 minute ago, Traumtulpe said:

Apparently the defense target at Hydron is bugged. The Grineer were indeed able to shoot it from outside the Cataclysm (they are not supposed to). Grenades didn't deal any damage though. I suspect this may be caused by it's mobile position.

I tried Stephano for comparison, the defense target took no damage whatsoever (as expected).

so..... it is should not take damage from outside the bubble or its should ? just like mr. Rawbeard.

and mr. Hypnos said ?

[Traumtulpe 2,789]

2 minutes ago, superiouz said:

it is should not take damage from outside the bubble or its should

It should not. Defense targets are supposed to (and are, usually) transferable into the rift by Cataclysm. There are exceptions however, for example the Coil Drive from Fortuna bounties.

You also cannot (for some reason) interact with mobile defense targets inside a Cataclysm (activate them). They are however considered inside the rift.

The whole thing could use some cleaning up and streamlining, I suppose.

[superiouz 294]

1 minute ago, Traumtulpe said:

It should not. Defense targets are supposed to (and are, usually) transferable into the rift by Cataclysm. There are exceptions however, for example the Coil Drive from Fortuna bounties.

You also cannot (for some reason) interact with mobile defense targets inside a Cataclysm (activate them). They are however considered inside the rift.

The whole thing could use some cleaning up and streamlining, I suppose.

thankyou for clearing me up.

[(PSN)eXe-mplar 45]

Did the same Riven (Solo without objective taking any damage). Damage on the Objectives Shield let me fail.
Do in with Limbo, in the Moment i recast 4, it takes damage on the Shield.
Have do it 3 time, then i pay attention and see it takes a small amount dmg on the Shield only..
Long durration, 4, then 2, kill every Enemy before 4 (or 2) ends and i made it.

Edited August 8, 2020 by (PS4)eXe-mplar

[Lutesque 4,162]

4 hours ago, (PS4)eXe-mplar said:

Did the same Riven (Solo without objective taking any damage). Damage on the Objectives Shield let me fail.
Do in with Limbo, in the Moment i recast 4, it takes damage on the Shield.
Have do it 3 time, then i pay attention and see it takes a small amount dmg on the Shield only..
Long durration, 4, then 2, kill every Enemy before 4 (or 2) ends and i made it.

One thing you can do is Cast Rift Surge on any enemies in the Rift just before your Stasis Ends.... And then Turn Off Cataclysm before Stasis Runs out.

Doing this Will Cause Rift Surge to go off.... All the affected enemies will get Knockdown as soon as the Stasis Duration runs out.... From there you can reactivate Stasis and Cataclysm again with out any of the affected enemies getting a chance to Attack.... 

Then Rinse and Repeat....

Of course it's harder than it sounds because if you're doing defender then when where Cataclysm Collapses Rift Surge won't get to all the enemies and that leaves the Defense Target Vulnerable. 

But in every other Situation it's Fantastic.

[(PSN)eXe-mplar 45]

@Lutesque Thx. Good to know. I start using Limbo with Steel Path more and more and like the Frame. 

For some Mission he is fantastic. Like Rescue, send the Target to the Rift with 1 and walk to the exit. 

Also Defense and cc. I realy enjoy Limbo now. 

[(PSN)Sswoop- 16]

Use max range vauban and spam vortex on an infested defense. Thats how i did it

[LoneWolf9989 43]

Some things are immune to the rift. Operators are an example. They cannot enter the rift, even if in range of cataclysm