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il y a 9 minutes, Krankbert a dit :

A "strawman argument" is an argument you make up and present as the opponent's and then debunk. For example, people here pretend that I said that the nerf would make all abilities useful, then point to how Decoy is still useless as a counterargument to their own made-up argument, and then pretend that they just proved me wrong.

Okay fair point but first we tried to explain that the nerf will :

1) either have no impact because the damage is still so good that the other ability will still be regarded as useless if the nerf is too little.

2) the helminth system will be regarded as useless if the nerf is too much (because why bother with a ton of crappy ability)

Then you tried to explain that the nerf would be effective at which I asked proof.

Granted : none of us can provide any because the system isn't out.

So why not just releasing as is & adjust everything later : buff & nerf accordingly at that time ?

People aren't against nerf when they are justified but this one seems really missguided.

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3 minutes ago, Krankbert said:

Keyword is "rather than". I didn't attack his argument based on who he is, I inferred something about who he is based on how consistently dishonest he's arguing.

it still stands because you never once stated a counter point to his argument you judged his character for arguing your point which is what ad hominem attack 

plainly states that "marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made "

judgement of ones character without actually arguing with the person your still wrong here.it has nothing to with bashing his arguement by his character, you are so horribly wrong its not even funny

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vor 1 Minute schrieb papry:

Okay fair point but first we tried to explain that the nerf will :

Your entire argument is based on black-and-white-thinking, from the base assumption that ablities are either as good as Roar or as bad as Decoy to the fact that you present two scenarios and completely disregard the possibility that the nerf might be neither too much nor too few.

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vor 3 Minuten schrieb skyrimplaier:

it still stands because you never once stated a counter point to his argument

Yeah, no, I don't accept that. The fact that there are a large number of abilities that are useful while they only ever talk about Decoy is something I brought up numerous times during the last few pages. If you want to make sweeping claims about the content of my comments here, maybe try reading them.

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