Nova systems (actually all frames)

[Odik]

Doing the same boring af mission to never get systems but helmet/chassis. 

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/93630-raptor-runs-and-nova-systems-drop-rate-problem/

Memes from 2014 are back or it never been fixed to begin with? I guess its too much to ask to have an equal chance of dropping for all parts.

inb4: you are just unlucky 😄

Actually they have the same drop rate for every normal frame because apparently they just used the same code for every frame. Just made a class for frame part drop and put it for every frame.So every frame system part has 22%, obviously, intentionally to tilt people 😄

[NinjaZeku]

23 minutes ago, Odik said:

have an equal chance of dropping for all parts

Would certainly be nice, and make sense.

Systems having ~half the drop chance of the other two parts is just not necessary.

[(PSN)Spider_Enigma]

its rng, i got all 3 back to back

[Drasiel]

The nova system does actually have smaller drop chance. Not sure why it's not equal.

Europa/Naamah (Assassination)
Nova Neuroptics Blueprint	Common (38.72%)
Nova Chassis Blueprint	Common (38.72%)
Nova Systems Blueprint	Uncommon (22.56%)

You guys should be super happy you don't have to farm the original raptor. That jerk would literally drop the blueprints outside the boss arena and you'd get no parts at all lol.

[Grey_Star_Rival_Defender]

37 minutes ago, Drasiel said:

To make farming take longer.

[Odik]

5 hours ago, Drasiel said:

The nova system does actually have smaller drop chance. Not sure why it's not equal.

Europa/Naamah (Assassination)
Nova Neuroptics Blueprint	Common (38.72%)
Nova Chassis Blueprint	Common (38.72%)
Nova Systems Blueprint	Uncommon (22.56%)

You guys should be super happy you don't have to farm the original raptor. That jerk would literally drop the blueprints outside the boss arena and you'd get no parts at all lol.

I think... I actually did (aaaand have to get it again for next update, otherwise wouldnt ever do that) ... And I'm not super happy that I spent 2 hours to not get the systems, feels like its 1%.

[Kaotis]

hace 9 horas, Odik dijo:

Doing the same boring af mission to never get systems but helmet/chassis. 

https://forums.warframe.com/topic/93630-raptor-runs-and-nova-systems-drop-rate-problem/

Memes from 2014 are back or it never been fixed to begin with? I guess its too much to ask to have an equal chance of dropping for all parts.

inb4: you are just unlucky 😄

Wait til you wana get the braton or lato fil... i mean vandal 😉

hace 8 horas, Drasiel dijo:

The nova system does actually have smaller drop chance. Not sure why it's not equal.

Lack of imagination, not able to do math , poor coding, wanting to push players to buy with plat <--- pick the poison you wana consume 🙂

hace 8 horas, Drasiel dijo:

You guys should be super happy you don't have to farm the original raptor. That jerk would literally drop the blueprints outside the boss arena and you'd get no parts at all lol.

The good ol days when we had to cry in a corner coz we couldn't fisicaly get the drop xD. Or when any of the other boses droped the bp through the map... good times good times

[Odik]

1 hour ago, kaotis said:

Wait til you wana get the braton or lato fil... i mean vandal 😉

I have lato vandal. Sold Braton vandal. 

There is a difference when you lvl'ing-farming focus(Or during other missions getting some prime trash for selling or ducats) while have a chance of getting vandal part and stupid HOUR FARMING normal boss for HOURS while not getting anything.

Played this game for insane amount of time but I dont want to farm simple frame part for 3-4 hours or buy it for 300+ plat. Thats nonsense

[Kaotis]

hace 2 minutos, Odik dijo:

stupid HOUR FARMING normal boss for HOURS while not getting anything.

i'm like 450 runs of zone 8 in and stil onyl radiend relics or endo. A few hours (120) of grind right there (and i know the parts go for 50 pl but i'm 100% invested in geting it the normal way xD 

hace 11 minutos, Odik dijo:

Played this game for insane amount of time but I dont want to farm simple frame part for 3-4 hours or buy it for 300+ plat. Thats nonsense

Nidus is another example that comes to mind as horible grind

[Odik]

1 hour ago, kaotis said:

i'm like 450 runs of zone 8 in and stil onyl radiend relics or endo. A few hours (120) of grind right there (and i know the parts go for 50 pl but i'm 100% invested in geting it the normal way xD 

Nidus is another example that comes to mind as horible grind

I'v got my Nidus relatively easy.  Cant remember which frame was a real problem to get tbh but 1% systems on nova that lasts for YEARS and not fixed... (guy on the wiki at 2018 says he had 40 attempts and 0 systems).

Price for Braton Vandal is pretty reasonable. Also I understand why it has low drop rate - iirc, not many had it from event or beta, it was long ago so I might be wrong. So it was made hard to obtain, what about nova systems? Eh?

While you are farming focus in sanctuary you have chance for getting Vandal parts. What benefits of running Raptors for hours ?

[Kaotis]

hace 24 minutos, Odik dijo:

What benefits of running Raptors for hours ?

Tecnicaly some focus as well but you are right , not much in the way of rewarding

[Drasiel]

13 hours ago, Odik said:

I'v got my Nidus relatively easy.  Cant remember which frame was a real problem to get tbh but 1% systems on nova that lasts for YEARS and not fixed... (guy on the wiki at 2018 says he had 40 attempts and 0 systems).

Price for Braton Vandal is pretty reasonable. Also I understand why it has low drop rate - iirc, not many had it from event or beta, it was long ago so I might be wrong. So it was made hard to obtain, what about nova systems? Eh?

While you are farming focus in sanctuary you have chance for getting Vandal parts. What benefits of running Raptors for hours ?

It's not one percent, it's just lower than the other parts. Everyone gets bad luck, It took 61 runs for me to get harrow's neuroptics from pago. It took 32 runs to round B of defection to get a single ash part. it took 12 runs to get nova systems last week.

[Odik]

9 hours ago, Drasiel said:

It's not one percent, it's just lower than the other parts. Everyone gets bad luck, It took 61 runs for me to get harrow's neuroptics from pago. It took 32 runs to round B of defection to get a single ash part. it took 12 runs to get nova systems last week.

I see, you think its just bad luck but not low drop rates set by DE to make sure you would spend hours farming.

Idk, you look like a hypocrite to me, just grind more and get lucky 😉

[Faulcun]

9 hours ago, Odik said:

I see, you think its just bad luck but not low drop rates set by DE to make sure you would spend hours farming.

Idk, you look like a hypocrite to me, just grind more and get lucky 😉

Thats not really fair. Shes talking about farming missions that require you to farm other missions in order to even play said mission.... which exacerbates the situation because you are stacking farming on top of other farming.

In your situation, it might be a boring fight but thats a different subject all together. It is however, an easy fight, a quick fight, and nothing more than simple drop chance.

Dont forget, this game is free to play. You could easily forego the hassle and purchase nova with platinum. Thats the business structure of this game.

[(PSN)Madurai-Prime]

I just did it in 3 runs lmao.

[Odik]

15 minutes ago, Faulcun said:

Thats not really fair. Shes talking about farming missions that require you to farm other missions in order to even play said mission.... which exacerbates the situation because you are stacking farming on top of other farming.

In your situation, it might be a boring fight but thats a different subject all together. It is however, an easy fight, a quick fight, and nothing more than simple drop chance.

Dont forget, this game is free to play. You could easily forego the hassle and purchase nova with platinum. Thats the business structure of this game.

Somehow I dont see the problem/ much difference with missions that require you to farm something to access the mission. Just grind - that how it meant to be done 😉 (Not even joking).

Thats ridiculous to me - "Unlucky, grind more" and then having your own thread "QQ I dont want to griiiiiiiiiiiiiind". H y p o c r i t e.

Easy ? Yes. Quick? 1500 meters in such terrible tiles... not really. 

You are right, its their game and they can do w/e.I wonder if thats the reason why they are losing players :)

 

[Faulcun]

1 hour ago, Odik said:

Somehow I dont see the problem/ much difference with missions that require you to farm something to access the mission. Just grind - that how it meant to be done 😉 (Not even joking).

Thats ridiculous to me - "Unlucky, grind more" and then having your own thread "QQ I dont want to griiiiiiiiiiiiiind". H y p o c r i t e.

Easy ? Yes. Quick? 1500 meters in such terrible tiles... not really. 

You are right, its their game and they can do w/e.I wonder if thats the reason why they are losing players 🙂

 

I actually dont have a problem with any of it. Bad drop rates give me something to do in a world of games that are otherwise trash.

I dont necessarily agree with her complaint either, however, like the prices of parts from simaris getting cut in half, I can understand having a conversation about other grindy tasks being brought inline with the rest of the game for comparable parts.

As far as speed, I would say an experienced player should be able to do the mission in under 5 min repeatably. Personally, I can cross the plains from corner to corner with any frame, no speed mods in 2.5min or less. Im probably ahead of the curve, but a 5 min run on raptor is not unreasonable.

De makes a lot of poor choices, like the whole swapping powers feature they are getting ready to release. Its not even out and they are nerfing powers and setting limitations. Already turning into a cluster F. Business is fluid. If they lose customers, well... thats on them.

[Drasiel]

1 hour ago, Odik said:

Somehow I dont see the problem/ much difference with missions that require you to farm something to access the mission. Just grind - that how it meant to be done 😉 (Not even joking).

Thats ridiculous to me - "Unlucky, grind more" and then having your own thread "QQ I dont want to griiiiiiiiiiiiiind". H y p o c r i t e.

Easy ? Yes. Quick? 1500 meters in such terrible tiles... not really. 

You are right, its their game and they can do w/e.I wonder if thats the reason why they are losing players 🙂

 

I've already farmed and refarmed all the frames I'm complaining about. It won't help me the least little bit if they are changed, but it could help other people which is why I made the post. Compounding grind is a problem separate from back luck on a ~20% chance to drop item. Can you go a long time without getting it yes? Is it any harder than the average effort to get most warframe parts? no. Hence you have back luck, it's not a bad farm.

[Odik]

1 hour ago, Faulcun said:

Bad drop rates give me something to do in a world of games that are otherwise trash.

WF in 1 sentence, well done. Hence why, most likely, after seeing this "magnificent" update gonna leave it. Time when I actually enjoyed the game is gone. I'd rather do something else than wasting 2-5h farming for 1 normal wf part

[Faulcun]

4 hours ago, Odik said:

WF in 1 sentence, well done. Hence why, most likely, after seeing this "magnificent" update gonna leave it. Time when I actually enjoyed the game is gone. I'd rather do something else than wasting 2-5h farming for 1 normal wf part

Fair enough. I choose not to spend money with DE because of their ridiculous decisions. However, I still enjoy the combat of this game. Im not a spammer, so i find interest in accuracy weapons. Is the content boring? yes. But the gameplay still interests me, plus I have my clan to look after and help as well.

The alternative is spending wasting money on an EA title where the game dies in a couple months because the players figured out they got screwed again, and repeat the cycle patiently waiting for the next hot title to be released.