My disappointment with DE

[Lugu1]

So, I started playing warframe in 2018, after doing pretty much all the things I wanted to do in tqhe game at the time I dropped it in the middle of 2019, and came back after one year out, expecting the huge update of the helminth system and etc, but well DE being De liked to the playerbase and nerfed the whole system even before launch, wow.

Why? I mean, DE is a big game industry with over 200 employees   isn't it? Then whyy does DE act as if they are doing everything without a plan, as if the game is still in beta. The veterans don't have any new content, and when we are finally promised some content, nah, it's not gonna be mr15 anymore, we are changing it to mr8. Oh, you guys are thinking the abilities are gonna be the exact same when you change the frame, just like we said in the devs, nah, they are going to be nerfed versions.

It just surprises me how little thought it seems to have been put in a update as hyped by DE as this one was. Many people came back to the game for it just to be remembered that DE still wont match their expectations and that the update will probably be like the other updates, fortuna, cetus and railjack, buggy as hell as if there were no tests done in the open world and that not much will change for the old playerbase, it is mainly meant to impress the new playerbase.

DE is just trying to gain new players while the old playerbase just drops the game, as if there was no way to bring them back, as if the many content creators hadn't  given any solutions to it. I mean, we have Rahetalius (and many others) who made many videos solving lots of problems (conclave, reworks to frames, criticism to some members of the staff, etc)  and then gets accused of personal attacks or has his ideas, such as the awesome rework for vauban ignored or implemented in other frames (dispensory that went to protea lol).

Warframe is not loosing playerbase because there is nothing that can be done or DE has no ideas of what to do, it's just their choice, to lose the old players and gain new ones. 

Well, in the end there is nothing we players can do anymore. Well, seems like I am gonna be quitting the game soon again.

[(PSN)Tomplexthis]

my gripe is tilesets.

europa pluto ceres grineer neptune

take a look up and youll see rendering worse than bethesda or anthem.

i was thinking of posting all the locations and rooms you can escape tiles in. but eh.. after finding like 5 per planet. its become exciting. every room now i search to find the textured garbage stuff. like really. go to neptune. jump up a bit. and every room is terrible. 

warframe only has grind. and that's the "content" push new weapon new frame to grind. new skin to buy. rinse repeat. the flaw being the actual Content islands. dude its great. but there should be bridges there. and less back and forth. in mission loadout swaps or such would be cool. 

like the design of railjack and open world bounties continuous missions till we return to orbiter could be applied to everything. 

trials raids, alliance wars and solar rails. could return to. 

[Grahark]

I was looking forward to build diversity. Looking forward to all but the #4 abilities being able to be transferred. 

Then there was a list that excluded abilities. There goes the diversity of building. 

Noone is going to buy or farm certain frames due to the fact that ANY of the useful abilities or even the non-meta meme combos are available.

Now the nerf to the 6 has happened. 

The MR reduction is just laughable and contrary to the comments they made.

Yet another syndicate grind, WOOHOO !! 

Crafting times of 24 hours or more, nope, sorry not gonna grind to wait. May as well get a job in construction if I wanna do that, AND get paid for it. 

Maybe this is just another way for DE to find out which abilities noone ever really uses/likes, and helps them target them for a buff/rework. Big hope  I know. 

Hype is gone, and maybe in 2 months when the bugs are fixed and actual feedback from more experienced players is listened to will a re-install take place. 

Theory crating out the window, no MONEY or TIME spent on this.

[GEN-Son_17]

Why don't you just wait and see what the percentages/changes will be before you go nuts on the unknown?

[(PSN)Kairu_Aname]

45 minutes ago, GEN-Son_17 said:

Why don't you just wait and see what the percentages/changes will be before you go nuts on the unknown?

Because this already sets a bad precedent. 

 

It either nerfs these abilities too far into the ground or it doesn't and they get used 90% of the time anyway because they're that strong. 

 

Nerf things that they don't want us to have, buff things they want to make viable, or change abilities they don't want us to have? 

 

Only one of these options gives players choice that DE is so proud of but never actually gives people. 

Here's a hint, it's buffing things. 

[GEN-Son_17]

No one ever wants to reduce anything. That's human nature. It's also why the balance narrative is a weak narrative in Warframe...no one is ultimately willing to accept it. That said, not a single part of the helminth system will be nerd enough to warrant the type of reactions I'm reading and seeing, especially with the youtubers. It seems like an overreaction ploy to change DE's mind. An immature tactic but a usually effective one.

[Lugu1]

The problem here is both balancing and how they are doing it. Warframe has over 40 frames and there are always going to be abilities better then others, the meta rn seems to be damage so abilities that cause lots of damage will be the one most used, if they balance it, there is just going to be a new meta where other abilities will be more used. Now how are they balancing it, they first chose 1 out of the 3 possible abilities  ( not counting the 4)per frame, obviously there will be some abilities better than others, if they didn't want to give us some they could just choose one of the other two abilities left, valkyrie has a 1 and a 3, rhino has a 1, mirage has a 2 etc. They specifically chose the good abilities of these frames, and after creating that much expectation, after the community showed how happy they were with those abilities, they nerfed them because "ThE oThEr AbIliTiEs wErE nOt ReCiVinG AtteNTion". They could have understood that lack of attention as a way of the community showing that they don't like the other abilities, and taken it as a message that those abilities should either be buffed or reworked, but no, in order to make some abilities get attention they decided to nerf the good ones, which will not change the usage of some a abilities because the bad one will still be trash(who uses loki's decoy), the good ones just became a little worst.

At the end, warframe is a game based on grinding and rng, the veterans have nothing to do in the game, they got everything maxed out nothing to do, and DE just ignores them. the creators are not only pissed  because of the nerf, but because when they finally receive hope of getting just a bit of attention from DE and when they thing there will be something worth doing in the game, that may finally change the loadout they have been using for years, DE just spits in their face and kills all the hype and expectations they had previously encouraged DE had many options to take and they just took the worst one.  The game just has many bugs that will never be fixed because DE is busy adding new buggy content to the game while never listening to the playerbase. After all of this, I'll try the game again in 2021 or when DE changes their approach and bans AGGP from the game

Sad to see the game I liked so much dying because of the incompetence of the devs.

Edit: @GEN-Son_17, it was supposed to quote your Las t comment but seems like I did something wrong and your comment wasn't quite lol

[Kaggelos]

You know what? Imma say it.

Stop complaining about everything. It offers nothing to the game, it only makes the developers feel bad for making a game they themselves love the most (comic book artist here, so i know how that feels).

Sure, some points are valid, even I will criticize DE for their shortcomings (in a civilized and positive manner, 'cause i'm also an art teacher) and im sorry for taking this out on this post specifically, but im just tired of all the negativity.

End of rant, and apologies in advance.

Hmph! *crosses hands*

[CodeVauban]

hace 16 minutos, Kaggelos dijo:

You know what? Imma say it.

Stop complaining about everything. It offers nothing to the game, it only makes the developers feel bad for making a game they themselves love the most (comic book artist here, so i know how that feels).

Sure, some points are valid, even I will criticize DE for their shortcomings (in a civilized and positive manner, 'cause i'm also an art teacher) and im sorry for taking this out on this post specifically, but im just tired of all the negativity.

End of rant, and apologies in advance.

Hmph! *crosses hands*

How do you want people to be positive all when we get is bad news?

"New system? We better nerf it before people even get to try it LOL WAIT what if we also add a rank requirement to it as well haha that'd be funny"

Why would people be positive about it when the new UI (that sucks really bad) and things like the vazarin nerf are still in the game? People just don't trust DE anymore. Every time the announce new content i'm concerned about the negatives, they always manage to make it negative.

[The-Toby]

People got to happy so they said no bad tenno no good toys for ya.

[GEN-Son_17]

Now that the system is out, I just wanted to point out, exactly as it always happens, that NO ONE is complaining about the nerfs. DE was absolutely correct in finding a better balance of the powers.

[sitfesz]

13 minutes ago, GEN-Son_17 said:

Now that the system is out, I just wanted to point out, exactly as it always happens, that NO ONE is complaining about the nerfs. DE was absolutely correct in finding a better balance of the powers.

Exactly as it always happens: DE doesn't react and it gets swept under the rug, because those players either left the game, of stopped giving feedback since it's pointless.

[Fl_3]

My biggest disappointment is unfinished content.

This game is full of content that has been added and then simply put to one side.

I thought 2020 was supposed to be the year of fixing things?

Covid cannot be used as an excuse looking at the updates we have received which includes a brand new open world, a new faction with all the voice lines and animation, new monsters, new characters and so on.

Why if all this is possible isn't actually finishing some of the other content that has been added to the game in the past 4 or 5 years?

I read that Leyou is ready to sell to Tencent. Lets hope that this change will force you to actually finish a part of your game and not just jump on to something else when you get bored of it.

[DrakeWurrum]

On 2020-08-20 at 12:37 AM, Lugu1 said:

I started playing warframe in 2018

On 2020-08-20 at 12:37 AM, Lugu1 said:

I dropped it in the middle of 2019

On 2020-08-20 at 12:37 AM, Lugu1 said:

The veterans

I'm not trying to be elitist, but that just feels weird to me. What do we count as veteran these days? I feel like, by comparison, you're saying you joined WoW during MoP. Do we just count MR now? Is it based on game hours? I feel like we need some sort of grounding on this "veterans" label.

Other than that, yeah. I'm enjoying Deimos to an extent, but I still find myself disappointed with what came out. Like... I expected more, and at least what was put out helps me to kill time.