Cross save

[(PSN)Bnansss]

With all the new consoles coming out I think this would be an insanely perfect time to push cross save. I know a lot of people who are building pcs with the new generation coming up and a lot of people who want to play but don't want to start new accounts.

[Letter13]

Gotta get all the console companies to agree to it before DE can work on implementing it.

[Oreades]

3 minutes ago, Letter13 said:

Gotta get all the console companies to agree to it before DE can work on implementing it.

And since Cross-saves are functionally account transfer-lite, I don't see that happening. 

My guess would be cross-play has a far better chance of happening than cross-save. 

[(PSN)ShaolinBitKiller]

I have a problem transferring a PS4 account to the PC. The DE simply refuses to help me.

I will lose all my progress for lack of support from the company.

The crossplay and cross-save feature exists but is not used.

[(PSN)guzmantt1977]

3 hours ago, (PS4)Leviano_X said:

I have a problem transferring a PS4 account to the PC. The DE simply refuses to help me.

I will lose all my progress for lack of support from the company.

The crossplay and cross-save feature exists but is not used.

Did you read the other comments on the thread? 

[mrEkli]

6 hours ago, Oreades said:

And since Cross-saves are functionally account transfer-lite, I don't see that happening. 

My guess would be cross-play has a far better chance of happening than cross-save. 

Why do you not seeing that happening? Many games have it and use it. What about transferring accounts are you referring to?

[Yagamilight123]

hace 3 horas, (PS4)Leviano_X dijo:

I have a problem transferring a PS4 account to the PC. The DE simply refuses to help me.

I will lose all my progress for lack of support from the company.

The crossplay and cross-save feature exists but is not used.

Your ability to read have some problems ? .... no there is no "cross-save" feature that DE can use without Sony agree with it first .... and its not gonna happen .

 

"

I have a problem transferring a PS4 account to the PC. The DE simply refuses to help me.

I will lose all my progress for lack of support from the company."

Its not a "support" problem .... the answer its that you cant do it .... that simple . There is nothing to "support" .

[mrEkli]

NVM

[Oreades]

12 minutes ago, (NSW)mrEkli said:

Why do you not seeing that happening? Many games have it and use it. What about transferring accounts are you referring to?

Many games? 

I can't think of one that isn't Fortnite (a game with more clout than god) or a Microsoft Xbox title that has cross-save with Microsoft Windows Store version of the game. and I'm not sure if I consider Microsoft to Microsoft to be cross-save. 

I think PSO2 had an account transfer period from the MS store to Steam but that was likely due to a limited exclusivity deal coupled with the fact that the MS store is a figurative dumpsterfire. 

That's all that comes to mind in the immediate.

[(PSN)ShaolinBitKiller]

24 minutes ago, Yagamilight123 said:

Your ability to read have some problems ? .... no there is no "cross-save" feature that DE can use without Sony agree with it first .... and its not gonna happen .

 

"

I have a problem transferring a PS4 account to the PC. The DE simply refuses to help me.

I will lose all my progress for lack of support from the company."

Its not a "support" problem .... the answer its that you cant do it .... that simple . There is nothing to "support" .

In 2014, DE released the transfer of accounts from the PC to new generation consoles, both Playstation and Xbox.

DE can release transactions whenever it wants, it just doesn't.

[(PSN)guzmantt1977]

26 minutes ago, (PS4)Leviano_X said:

In 2014, DE released the transfer of accounts from the PC to new generation consoles, both Playstation and Xbox.

DE can release transactions whenever it wants, it just doesn't.

Gee it's almost as if those were all done in one direction only and for a very limited time. Never in the other direction or from one console to another. 

Let me know when you begin to see how that's not got much to do with what you are demanding. 

[(PSN)guzmantt1977]

34 minutes ago, Oreades said:

Many games? 

I can't think of one that isn't Fortnite (a game with more clout than god) or a Microsoft Xbox title that has cross-save with Microsoft Windows Store version of the game. and I'm not sure if I consider Microsoft to Microsoft to be cross-save. 

I think PSO2 had an account transfer period from the MS store to Steam but that was likely due to a limited exclusivity deal coupled with the fact that the MS store is a figurative dumpsterfire. 

That's all that comes to mind in the immediate.

Fun story there's a tale about a time when Microsoft got a bunch of Xbox champs together to test out crossplay with PC and asked some workers to hop on for a game on a server they set up, just regular Joes on the PC's. 

The PC players DOMINATED. That's something to consider when people talk about crossplay being something that they want. 

[Letter13]

34 minutes ago, (PS4)Leviano_X said:

DE can release transactions whenever it wants, it just doesn't.

This is a categorically false statement.

DE only allowed migrations for a limited time because Sony prohibited DE from allowing migrations all the time, and the migrations were only one way (PC to PS4) and not the other way around. Other consoles were given limited migrations as well in order for all console players to have equal opportunities to migrate their PC account progress to the console of their choice.

Migrations from consoles to PC, or from one console to another console, was never allowed by the console manufacturers nor something DE has done.

 

Sure, DE might have the means to implement migrations/cross-save between consoles and PC freely, but unless they can obtain permission from Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo to implement it, they will not. If they did, DE would risk having Warframe removed from the PS4/XB1/Switch. They also won't implement it on one or two consoles but not the other console(s), because that would be a clear sign of favoritism and would drive a wedge into the community.

The important takeaway is the following two words: Contractual Obligations. In order to have Warframe playable on consoles, DE is beholden to the terms in the contract(s) they have established with Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo. Unless the three console manufacturers all decide to allow DE implement cross-save or additional migrations, DE's hands are tied. If DE defies the terms in the contract(s) they have set up with console manufacturers, then Warframe would probably be pulled from said console(s).

[Oreades]

9 minutes ago, (PS4)guzmantt1977 said:

Fun story there's a tale about a time when Microsoft got a bunch of Xbox champs together to test out crossplay with PC and asked some workers to hop on for a game on a server they set up, just regular Joes on the PC's. 

The PC players DOMINATED. That's something to consider when people talk about crossplay being something that they want. 

Oh yeah competitive M&K vs Controller is usually a slaughter even with some pretty aggressive aimassist on the controllers. Not to suggest the controller players are lower skill, just that M&K is that much more accurate. 

The one saving grace with Warframe is at least it's PvE and the bulk of the competitive angle comes from damage bragging rights. 

[(PSN)guzmantt1977]

45 minutes ago, Oreades said:

 The one saving grace with Warframe is at least it's PvE and the bulk of the competitive angle comes from damage bragging rights. 

Until people start whining about "u stol muh killz". 

[Yagamilight123]

hace 1 hora, (PS4)Leviano_X dijo:

In 2014, DE released the transfer of accounts from the PC to new generation consoles, both Playstation and Xbox.

DE can release transactions whenever it wants, it just doesn't.

No limited pal .... Sony as it was the release of game in consoles allowed a one time only migration (its not that hard to do a search before showing your lack of knowlegde in a topic ...) . DE cant do it whenever they want . Not to mention that you are speaking about doing it from PS4 to PC .... thats never being done before .

[Oreades]

21 hours ago, (PS4)guzmantt1977 said:

Until people start whining about "u stol muh killz". 

Yeah but outside of Dog Days where they actually went out of their way to make killstealing a mechanic and the hand full of antithetically group friendly frames like Nidus.... Warframe has mostly already hit peak KS potential. 

Warframe is actually kinda interesting in that aspect, I rarely run into people complaining about people bogarting all the kills (outside of frames like Nidus that need to bogart by design). What I mostly see are the people who essentially hoard all the kills for themselves doubling down and complaining that the rest of the group is leeching off of them. 

I mean seriously if I had a dollar for every time someone came running to the forums with visual proof that their whole team is leeches and should be punished..... and they where running the Equinox with like 98% team damage have thousands of kills.... Sometimes I don't know if it's them trying to humble brag of if they legit don't realize their play style is the problem not their group. 

Usually followed up by them unironically asking why this game doesn't have a button to report leeches..... 

[Letter13]

Thread has strayed from the topic at hand, and discussion has pretty much been wrapped up.