Grayfox1990 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Remember when we first fought our battles with the eidolons? Remember how excited it was and how much we loved it? We loved it so much till this day even... I hope DE makes this bossfight in hearts of deimos as exciting as when we first fought the eidolons. I hope DE makes it that we can enjoy this bossfight years later just like eidolons. I also hope they let us kill the bosses with warframes. Maybe tenno too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLexiConArtist Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Maybe take off those rose-tinted nostalgia glasses a little. First fighting the Eidolons was "tickle shields for hours to break them, then get bugged and have no loot actually spawn on kill anyway". I won't be disappointed if they hold the Deimos Zone Boss fights back like the Orbs so they're at least somewhat functional by the time we get them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hikuro-93 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Not a huge fan of the Eidolon fights. They were not bad, but not that great either. I do hope for a good and solid boss fights. At least until elitism ensues, which only made eidolons worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotis Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 hace 8 horas, Grayfox1990 dijo: Remember when we first fought our battles with the eidolons? Remember how excited it was and how much we loved it? We loved it so much till this day even... I hope DE makes this bossfight in hearts of deimos as exciting as when we first fought the eidolons. I hope DE makes it that we can enjoy this bossfight years later just like eidolons. I also hope they let us kill the bosses with warframes. Maybe tenno too... Love ? O,O they have become a breeding ground for toxic elitism where the most common thing you will see is : " +200 captures or no entry" and stuf like that... I have enven see some one ask for 600 minimum captures lol like what the actual fck. I get you don't want some one new in the run but take a breather and your happy pills. Like capturing more than 20 makes you somehow a doctor in the field and the battle completly changes and becomes more rewarding lol. Too continue beating the dead horse here, you get a full scuad faster if you type in " chill eidolon run lf X,Y,Z" than saying :" eidolon run 3x3 mising X,Y,Z 200+ cap min". And you will do the same 3x3, even more some times. Excluding the elitism behind hitting a big piñata and it's family as fast as posible. the fights are borderline not fun to play, so many bright lights you need sun glases to see what the fck is happening , the mechanics are janky af , the diversity in frames is non existent tbh , sure you can change some things up and stil be viable ... but remeber the toxic elitism from before? ...yea... gl with changing that dogma (adeptus mechanicus has it easier lol). hace 7 horas, TheLexiConArtist dijo: Maybe take off those rose-tinted nostalgia glasses a little. First fighting the Eidolons was "tickle shields for hours to break them, then get bugged and have no loot actually spawn on kill anyway". +1 hace 7 horas, TheLexiConArtist dijo: I won't be disappointed if they hold the Deimos Zone Boss fights back like the Orbs so they're at least somewhat functional by the time we get them. Sad part is, we are stil missing the 3rd Orb Mother .... that soon tm primed mod will become umbra prime mod before we gett that fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayfox1990 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 8 hours ago, TheLexiConArtist said: Maybe take off those rose-tinted nostalgia glasses a little. First fighting the Eidolons was "tickle shields for hours to break them, then get bugged and have no loot actually spawn on kill anyway". I won't be disappointed if they hold the Deimos Zone Boss fights back like the Orbs so they're at least somewhat functional by the time we get them. True, but then again isn't that challenging? For example, if you play other games like tomb raider on hard mode, you need to be carefull what you do and the boss is really hard to kill right? Isn't this the same then? I for one enjoy the fights more with eidolons then with those orbs. Tbh, the whole fortuna-orb valis thing was actually a flop imo... I just hope for a good solid bossfight with good bossfightmechanics where you need some brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayfox1990 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, kaotis said: Love ? O,O they have become a breeding ground for toxic elitism where the most common thing you will see is : " +200 captures or no entry" and stuf like that... I have enven see some one ask for 600 minimum captures lol like what the actual fck. I get you don't want some one new in the run but take a breather and your happy pills. Like capturing more than 20 makes you somehow a doctor in the field and the battle completly changes and becomes more rewarding lol. Too continue beating the dead horse here, you get a full scuad faster if you type in " chill eidolon run lf X,Y,Z" than saying :" eidolon run 3x3 mising X,Y,Z 200+ cap min". And you will do the same 3x3, even more some times. Excluding the elitism behind hitting a big piñata and it's family as fast as posible. the fights are borderline not fun to play, so many bright lights you need sun glases to see what the fck is happening , the mechanics are janky af , the diversity in frames is non existent tbh , sure you can change some things up and stil be viable ... but remeber the toxic elitism from before? ...yea... gl with changing that dogma (adeptus mechanicus has it easier lol). True but you always get toxic players everywhere. Tbh, half of the community is toxic... Meanwhile league of legends community says "Hold my beer..." You need to know what you are doing in eidolonfighting (which roll and how to play that roll). Many caps (50+) are needed if you want to do a 3x3. They are not experienced enough and neither is their focus school to pull out a 3x3 if they got 20 caps only. 2x3 is a better option at this point. I got 88 hydrolysts captured and even I don't have enough for all the passive waybounts of the schools... Other then this, I +1 the rest of the explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotis Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 hace 39 minutos, Grayfox1990 dijo: True but you always get toxic players everywhere. Tbh, half of the community is toxic... Meanwhile league of legends community says "Hold my beer..." EUW here... it's not toxic ... it's reinforcing the other player to play better 🙂 even with whaterbordign if need be hace 39 minutos, Grayfox1990 dijo: You need to know what you are doing in eidolonfighting (which roll and how to play that roll). I agree , but the fact of the matter is that after you do a few runs you basicaly undersatand what you have to do. It doesn't take 200+ runs to get at that stage tbh. hace 39 minutos, Grayfox1990 dijo: Many caps (50+) are needed if you want to do a 3x3. It depends mostly on the gear imo. I remeber on one run we had a volt that had a god tier riven for the wep and out damaged our chroma. If you don't 100% know what to do but you 1 shot legs etc it is just as important. Not to mention that the real diference betwen the stage 1 to 3 of the eidolons is the size and ammount of sparkling cancer they put out. hace 39 minutos, Grayfox1990 dijo: They are not experienced enough and neither is their focus school Depends if they turn the shards into focus or hold on to them to unlock the nodes, i used mine to unbind the nodes for example , but this is a subjective thing i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grayfox1990 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 2 hours ago, kaotis said: EUW here... it's not toxic ... it's reinforcing the other player to play better 🙂 even with whaterbordign if need be I agree , but the fact of the matter is that after you do a few runs you basicaly undersatand what you have to do. It doesn't take 200+ runs to get at that stage tbh. It depends mostly on the gear imo. I remeber on one run we had a volt that had a god tier riven for the wep and out damaged our chroma. If you don't 100% know what to do but you 1 shot legs etc it is just as important. Not to mention that the real diference betwen the stage 1 to 3 of the eidolons is the size and ammount of sparkling cancer they put out. Depends if they turn the shards into focus or hold on to them to unlock the nodes, i used mine to unbind the nodes for example , but this is a subjective thing i guess. EUW here too from Belgium. Support main gold 4 and I'm starting to go mid more offen now. I'm silver elo in mid. Anyway, back on topic, its true what what you say about the gear. Recently I'm experimenting with rhino and wisp. I was a UW chroma main before the 2nd nerf update with a 891% buff and was quiet decent in this too (I knew what I needed to do). It might as well been this buff that volt had with the chroma in combo with that riven that outdamaged the chroma. Ever since that update, I had more struggles with the killing terra's then the other 2. Gantu wasn't any problem since he had that attack with lasers out of the ground so you just had to stand in those lasers to build up the buff. And hydro did dmg whatsoever on you. So you just needed to press 3 and it got the job done for you. However hydro was problem with that cancer attack on the ground. You simply couldn't run anywhere since a bunch of area's now did aoe dmg. I agree with you on the amount of caps. You can be as good as anyone with only 3 caps, only you could be much slower due to the gear you're missing when you've capped over 50 of them. But on the other hand, 200-500 caps needed is bs for a 3x3 and even for a 5-6x3. I can perfectly co-operate for a 5x3 if I have the right gear with me. The light show indeed is a problem since you can't see anything but the fight itself, I find it the most enjoyable despite the struggles I had with them in the past. I remember my first fight with the eidolons. It was frustrating and headscratching, but at the same time, a real challenge. And that challenge I now want to see happening with the next bossfights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpyro12345678 Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 В 25.08.2020 в 04:38, TheLexiConArtist сказал: Maybe take off those rose-tinted nostalgia glasses a little. First fighting the Eidolons was "tickle shields for hours to break them, then get bugged and have no loot actually spawn on kill anyway". I won't be disappointed if they hold the Deimos Zone Boss fights back like the Orbs so they're at least somewhat functional by the time we get them. Wait, sometimes loot didn't spawn? Uhh chief, are you sure it's not the player teleporting lures to the shrine/gate right before they blow up? A bug like this literally never happened to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLexiConArtist Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 17 hours ago, mrpyro12345678 said: Wait, sometimes loot didn't spawn? Uhh chief, are you sure it's not the player teleporting lures to the shrine/gate right before they blow up? A bug like this literally never happened to me. Nope. Common bug at the launch of Plains., loot just never spawning out in either case of kills or captures (or bugged captures which processed as if just kills, that recurring issue was present right from the start too). A good 3 times out of 4, all that effort produced a big pile of nothing, and if you're solo, you can't even petition support... the early days were horrid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel_Rook Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 On 2020-08-25 at 3:51 AM, Grayfox1990 said: Remember when we first fought our battles with the eidolons? Remember how excited it was and how much we loved it? We loved it so much till this day even... No, I remember no such thing. I don't remember Eidolons ever being "exciting," outside of maybe the novelty of fighting a Teralyst by myself. What I remember is a long boring, tedious encounter with a gear check gimmick boss who offered very little actual gameplay - at least, outside of the Arsenal. The same applies to the Profit-Taker Orb, as well. I can maybe give you the Exploiter since that's more of puzzle boss than a gear check in that it requires us to DO more, but even then - meh. I'm honestly not at all upset that Deimos didn't end up with giant world bosses. Frankly, I wish DE would stop trying to turn Warframe into World of Warcraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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