best subsume for banshee ?

[_Anise_]

I always want to make her work (somehow) so was wondering which is her worst ability to delete?

is it her 1 because I can count on one hand how many times i have used it?

or her ultimate because it does not scale and does little to medium+ level mobs?

so do we replace her 1 or her 4 ?

I think is survivability her biggest issue ? is it lack of damage ? I was thining maybe I give her ivaras quiver to make her a stealth frame, maybe just maybe roar could scale her 4 into being usable but I doubt it or something else, maybe trinitys heal for alternative suvivability, maybe something to overcharge shields ? giveme your thouths on my ideas or throw me some suggestions that might make her more viable

 

Thanks

 

 

[bibmobello]

The best ability for banshee is pull because you can push and pull the enemies causing them seasickness.

[Berzerkules]

Just slap that Breach Surge band aid on any frame and you're good to go. 

[(PSN)Hopper_Orouk]

Easy question.

Banshee has an enormous damage output, capable of reaching damage cap with some set ups, she doesn't need damage

I'd suggest sacrifice sound quake or her 1 for damage reduction, aka nova's nullstar

[TheGuyver]

I was going to replace the ultimate since I actually use the 1st 3 abilities. I enjoy having an armor strip a damage buff & cc and one frame. I might put radial blind on her or elemental ward for toxin or fire.

[Teliko_Freedman]

I like pull, maybe use that to bring enemies into Silence range?

[(PSN)Madurai-Prime]

I'm gonna replace her 4 with something to mitigate damage. 

 

[Teliko_Freedman]

I think they said they're not allowing 4's.

 

[SenorClipClop]

2 minutes ago, Teliko_Freedman said:

I think they said they're not allowing 4's.

They mentioned that 4th abilities aren't going to be subsumable, but any ability can be replaced with a subsume ability. So you can swap out Soundquake for something else, if the previous statement holds up.

[Teliko_Freedman]

I thought they replaced the slots they belonged to. I'll have to reread it.

 

[schilds]

Replace her 4 with ... pretty much anything.

[Benaful]

it would depende in your banshee build but, the 4 seems the useless one in some builds in otjers builds is the 1, you will have like 3 load outs so you can do a lot of combinations.

[(XBOX)SweatyPick3L]

35 minutes ago, Berzerkules said:

Just slap that Breach Surge band aid on any frame that uses duration and range and you're good to go. 

Ftfy

[_Anise_]

I did goof around a bit with the silence execute build but I honestly don't like the playstyle so I was thinking of going sonar build which probably has little use for damage increasing buffs.

I thought maybe if I took breach it would proc from earthquake ? could have her a viable 2 button aoe wombo combo ? thoughts ?

otherwise I just want a really good survivability skill so I can spam sonar for my team/self and not insta die to a stray bullet while I wait for shield recharge, maybe pillage ? and I think it should go over her 4?

[BansheePrime]

I don't know what the heck I'll decide to replace Sound Quake (which is absolutely which skill I am replacing) with, but I do know i'll be giving (Savage) Silence to Ash for that sweet sweet finisher damage multiplier.

[-CdG-Zilchy]

Shooting gallery on savage silence banshee. If only , my dream died before it started 😞

[bibmobello]

18 minutes ago, schilds said:

Replace her 4 with ... pretty much anything.

Replacing her 4 means it's better to use another frame.

[BansheePrime]

2 minutes ago, bibmobello said:

Replacing her 4 means it's better to use another frame.

But.... Banshee is all about her 2 and 3, not her 4?

[(PSN)Madurai-Prime]

1 minute ago, bibmobello said:

Replacing her 4 means it's better to use another frame.

We've already talked about this. The options are there for a reason. We already know we can Saryn/Revenant/Gara and Kronen Prime the whole game.

[(XBOX)EternalDrk Mako]

there is no best, its up to play style and function of users.

[Obviousclone]

I'll probably drop soundquake for octavia's resonator for my sonar build

nullstar requires a hefty duration investment of 300% to get that 90% dmg reduction (otherwise with an unmodded 100% duration you'd only get 30% dmg reduction)

defy is apparently getting nerfed (which is silly since any value less than 1200 armor would just be "run equinox sleep/inaros blind/excal blind/baruuk lull and then finisher attack to trigger arcane ultimatum)

eclipse is being nerfed and also very inconsistent with how lighting works and also I don't know if DE considers sonar to be a damage buff power (I personally consider it functionality wise, a damage buff)

elemental ward is just an extended vitality. With the current 300% power strength build that's basically a +600 to max health which isn't much when I'm already getting 2k ehp from quick thinking and primed flow.

shooting gallery and quiver's cloak arrow are probably other strong alternatives but gallery has a stun limit and cloak arrow forces a very immobile playstyle.

[-CdG-Zilchy]

I'd replace 1st ability with something to survive easier I guess, definitely don't need more damage. Though shield gating kinda fixes that anyway.

[BansheePrime]

Thinking on it I might replace SQ in one of my loadouts with Petrify. Lore wise it's not THAT much of a stretch for a Banshee to petrify targets, but also I just love Petrify. Was so much more energy efficient when it was a channeled skill though.

[bibmobello]

8 minutes ago, BansheePrime said:

But.... Banshee is all about her 2 and 3, not her 4?

Since when someone uses banshee? It's the new fashion because someone made a video without showing he died 2000 times with the teammates reviving him all the time? Ahh the 2 and 3 very powerful and useful  abilities indeed...

[schilds]

I use her 1 for the armour strip on particularly tough individual targets (disruption demos, mainly) but it might be nice to have Pillage for aoe armour stripping + restoring shields.

It's tough to figure out what I'd put on her, since she covers most situations with her first three abilities. She is squishy, but it's manageable. She does lots of damage. What's left are really QoL things.