JackHargreav 5,536 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I get that the new animals can appear but why make everything mandatory is beyond me. The way Fortuna and Cetus worked wasn't great but it was simple and you could aproach the grind however you wanted. And Deimos is just the exact opposite for whatever reason. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Aldain 12,300 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, VRHmason said: can't believe people defend fishing, mining and animal hunting I'm not defending it, I'm saying that wanting to pay to bypass it sets a precedent for DE to make things like this solely to get cash out of the deal. Rather than paying to bypass the problem which only emboldens such decisions, go to the feedback thread and point out the problems in excruciating detail. Otherwise we'll just get mobile game tier BS and DE will think all is well because people are paying for it. Link to post Share on other sites
Kconvey 842 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, (XB1)The Neko Otaku said: Vast majority of the community loves floofs and conservation is incredibly easy. you mean incredibly annoying right? Link to post Share on other sites
Chaos0Frenzy 33 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 This whole standing system is trash 2 Link to post Share on other sites
_R_o_g_u_e_ 328 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 minute ago, Xylena_Lazarow said: I come to Warframe to play Warframe, not MMO minigame garbage. Only some of these insulting chores can be bypassed with plat. Deimos conservation cannot be, and this sours me on the entire expansion, despite how much I was looking forward to Helminth, and how much I've so far enjoyed the Entrati. DE, please add all the fishing, mining, and conservation resources to the Market or NPC vendors, so we can get back to the core gameplay and lore we love. You come to warframe to play warframe? Okay. Conservation is part of warframe. “MMO mini game garbage.” 🤦♂️ “and this Sours the entire expansion,” yeesh dude I can’t even take you seriously xD ”So *we*-“ please speak for yourself. If you are a we it is an extremely tiny minority of players that would dare complain about something so insignificant after a great content drop. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
PopGligor 607 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Chaos0Frenzy said: The system is crap it railroads players into doing boring crap they hate Not really. You can farm 7000 mother tokens and be set for life. In fact, these tokens dramatically change how syndicate progress will happen, because you can continue farming and earning standing even while you're capped. And also you can trade in random world drops for tokens (at father) as well. So you're earning a lot of standing, all of the time, even while capped. So it's a great system. 2 minutes ago, Aldain said: I'm not defending it, I'm saying that wanting to pay to bypass it sets a precedent for DE to make things like this solely to get cash out of the deal. That is already the case with Fortuna and Cetus. And arcanes. And so many other things. The precedent has been set, and to be fair, it's not a bad system. It allows you to play parts of the game you like, then cash out in plat, and pay to skip the parts you don't like. Personally I don't do it, but it is a valid way of playing the game. You still spend the time, you still play the game, you just aren't doing things you hate. Edited August 26, 2020 by PopGligor 1 Link to post Share on other sites
(XBOX)CaligulaTwily 585 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 I did conservation, like, twice, on the Vallis. I hated it. Animal conservation comes up in NW? I ignore it 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Fire2box 1,834 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 conservation on Fortuna was 100% optional for cosmetic rewards or another way to earn standing. I have no desire to do it and now I'm forced into doing it for standing. fun times. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Dr.Pepper23 274 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Just now, Chaos0Frenzy said: This new system standing system is trash the whole thing. This system is in no way fun or interesting. It's designed to force players into doing things they hate to progress. all other open world systems have many ways to progress so it doesn't get boring. Hart of Deimos on the other hand railroads the player into doing tasks they dislike. I will not be playing again until they fix this boring uninteresting grind fest. Exactly this This token system is terrible. Absolutely hate doing fishing/conservation/ mining. They have no place in Warframe yet they get constantly recycled into "new" content. Ive taken long extended breaks from the game, and I just dont have the will anymore to grind this game. Especially forcing me to do things I hate in order to "progress". 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Aldain 12,300 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Don't ask to pay to bypass it or DE will just do it again and again for cash. If there's problems, request them to be fixed, not bypassed with money. Link to post Share on other sites
ChaoticEdge 1,428 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 plat on mining is such a thing only 2 planet, don't remember paying plat for that on demios. Link to post Share on other sites
Chaos0Frenzy 33 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 11 hours ago, PopGligor said: Not really. You can farm 7000 mother tokens and be set for life. In fact, these tokens dramatically change how syndicate progress will happen, because you can continue farming and earning standing even while you're capped. And also you can trade in random world drops for tokens (at father) as well. So you're earning a lot of standing, all of the time, even while capped. So it's a great system. Really how do I turn those mother tokens into other ones because grandma doesn't swap them for anything Link to post Share on other sites
Kconvey 842 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 minute ago, _R_o_g_u_e_ said: Plat comes from standing around for ages, you can’t be bothered to actually *play* the game. They’ve added an entire new open world, with new animals for the conversation mini game, and on day one you’ve already had enough of it? Yeah dude, that’s lazy. More than lazy it looks arrogant, like you were consciously looking for something to complain about. Yes but its exactly the SAME fishing, mining and conservation we have already done... twice.. and some people dont like it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
PopGligor 607 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 11 hours ago, Chaos0Frenzy said: Really how do I turn those mother tokens into other ones because grandma doesn't swap them for anything You can turn in mother tokens directly for standing at grandmother. Maybe learn how it works before bashing it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Xylena_Lazarow 1,106 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, _R_o_g_u_e_ said: with new animals for the conversation mini game Imagine something you hate doing. Maybe it's not a hard thing. But you hate it. And now you have to do it to progress in your favorite game. Do you grit your teeth and do the thing you hate? Or do you play another game while you wait for DE to pull their heads out of their sigmoids? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
_R_o_g_u_e_ 328 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) Just now, Xylena_Lazarow said: Imagine something you hate doing. Maybe it's not a hard thing. But you hate it. And now you have to do it to progress in your favorite game. Do you grit your teeth and do the thing you hate? Or do you play another game while you wait for DE to pull their heads out of their sigmoids? Please go and play another game ❤️ The less wasteful negativity in warframe the better. Edited August 26, 2020 by _R_o_g_u_e_ 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Xylena_Lazarow 1,106 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, _R_o_g_u_e_ said: Please go and play another game ❤️ The less wasteful negativity in warframe the better. You mean like telling another player to go play another game? You didn't even answer my question. WTB Helminth Segment 200p Edited August 26, 2020 by Xylena_Lazarow 5 Link to post Share on other sites
(NSW)Kirbys-Epic-Yarn 322 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 What stuff do you get out of fishing and mining? Link to post Share on other sites
Void_Ocelot 92 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Conservation is the bane of my existence. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Chaos0Frenzy 33 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 11 hours ago, PopGligor said: -snip- really so i don't have conservation and fishing Ad nauseam. To advance through the tiers of this system...... thought so.... Link to post Share on other sites
_Glaurung_ 54 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Ah yes, people wanting everything on day one. Classic 4 Link to post Share on other sites
_R_o_g_u_e_ 328 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Xylena_Lazarow said: You mean like telling another player to go play another game? You didn't even answer my question. WTB Helminth Segment 200p That’s not me being negative, I’m giving you a solution. If an entire new open world was soured for you by a single system, leave. Oh what’s that? You don’t want to? Guess it wasn’t at all soured for you and your hyperbole was useless. Edited August 26, 2020 by _R_o_g_u_e_ 2 Link to post Share on other sites
(XBOX)The Neko Otaku 4,203 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 23 minutes ago, Kconvey said: you mean incredibly annoying right? Incredibly easy cause i went and easily found animals to tranq instead of immediately going to the fourms and complaining that everthing isn't hand to you on a sliver platter 3 Link to post Share on other sites
_R_o_g_u_e_ 328 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 1 hour ago, DeMonkey said: It is a bit. So far as I recall the goal was to give us a fun little way of saving the animals and getting plushies and warm fuzzy feelings from doing so. Probably played by Pink Rhinos with Rainbow posters on their walls. Not judging. That however is not what I, or clearly quite a few people, play Warframe or even video games in general for. We're there to commit genocide on the Infested and test out new guns, not rescue horribly mutated cats from tentacle trees. This is exactly why I play warframe, actually. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
(PSN)guzmantt1977 7,026 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 EA has trained some customers so well. Don't want to actually play the game to progress? Get out your wallet suckers. Now when they have a game where they aren't given that pay to win option they scream about how "unfair" it all is. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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