Heart of Deimos: Hotfix 29.0.3

[SplitzyPrime]

Joining a mission, and getting "session unavailable" will permanently make you stuck in the end game stats menu, and you have to restart.

Arca Titron still doesnt build charges

And the gladiator set bonus will constantly randomly not work.

[ATLRS]

LOL still no hotfix 

[PyroMail.Com]

So I finally got time to play the new Update after 3 days of fever.

First and foremost: The cinematic quest around Heart of Deimos was just awesome. I like the lovely (read: hateful) relation of the family and can relate some aspects of them (though I think whoever came up with this whole Idea should consult a therapist). But the Boss at the end was a bit tough I think. After 3 deaths I managed to beat it. Father's reaction was priceless. Controling a Nechramech was an experience I didn't know I needed so badly. That was just so much fun to believe it is normal content now.

But I encountered some bugs which aren't the funny "DE fixed 1 thing and broke 10 others" kind of bug.

- I was curious about the new player experience and wanted to try the new tutorial. The cinematic stopped after 2 seconds and took away my admin rights. I couldn't tap out, task manager wasn't capable of shutting down Warframe and all I could do was restart my PC.
- While I was out in the Cambion Drift for my first bounty I accidentally tapped out and lost full control of my PC again, the same problem as mentioned above. Needed to shut down my PC again to fix it.
- When speaking to the Prospector in the Hub, the Mechant often starts talking of two different subjects simultaneously, making it hard to concentrate on the thing I am actually there for.

But then again, maybe start playing new content 2-3 after its release was too soon. I am looking forward to more fixes, since I think this open world has still some parts which need it.

But keep up the good work! Stay save and drink enough!

[eozole]

The token system is correct for me, i stock enough with mother token for the next day and i like that ! 
I understand there already a way to do that in previous open world but it feel... better in this case because of the lore of the place. 

The update could be better whit this fixed : 
-Fish opening in mass is buggued and give less reward than opening them one by one. 
-im one of the rare people who like mining/fishing and conservation things, i did manage to aquire all the son token for the next rank with the entrati BUT I never saw one of the bird for those 5 badge you need to rank up, i tried running around and trying the normal way by following the path and nothing. (Running around with Ivara while invisible and radar mode is what worked for me) But yes the price should be reduced for the son token. 
-Scintillant drop rate are..... really really low., i got one doing the bounty and none in the vault, i played atleast 10h in the heart of deimos doing that and that kind of grind is just a big no no for me. So DE do something for that pls ^^' 
-Necramech seems week, the little i played with them it feel useless since my frame and operator juste do more damage and are more tanky, i like mecha in general but i don't have the feeling of power it should give :o (also in the quest when snake died the sound of the mech dying is really loud idk if this as been fixed) 

This is the things that stopped me for playing HoD for the moment, hope to see some fix soon so i can finally craft Xaku and the new weapons ! 

Btw: i love the artistic job done on HoD, great idea and concept, make me think of the dreadnought  and the adpetus mechanicus of 40k. 

[Dthamilaye]

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Fixed cases of players unable to start Vor’s Prize after completing the tutorial.

• This also unblurs the ‘Vor’s Prize’ Quest entry for those who skipped it way back in the day.

Finally! That one blurred quest screen was always hurting my OCD :). 

[RealGoran]

uhm..well...the whole getting better rewards after clearing all 3 vaults didnt work or does not work. Mother says a few words ( probably random babble ) and than there is no extra reward ( or none i could find )

[-KyloRen-]

why you so broken?

[Ikusias]

Fishing is still completely broken, any spear destroys the fish leaving nothing behind

[eozole]

Are you fishing with volt ? 
I read somewhere that the passive of volt kill the fish x) 
Personally i didn't have any problem with that 😮 (I didn't use volt) 

[_Eclips3_]

3 hours ago, Frument said:

I think the most awful thing about universally-hated mandatory tacked-on minigame that's called "Conservation" is the fact that it feels like it's engineered to be the absolute worst it could be.

1) You have your tranq rifle, which gives nothing but godawful beeps that say "There might be an animal in a 100 mile radius around you, who knows!". The animal silhouette is #*!%ing periodically showing, you have to wait for every #*!%ing beep to try and search it out. And, of course, cherry on the cake. IT'S #*!%ING PALE ORANGE IN A WORLD MADE EXCLUSIVELY OF ORANGE GLOWING THINGS. If you TRIED you wouldn't be able to think up a WORSE color and a WORSE type of silhouette display than this.
2) Animals don't appear on the minimap, no matter if you equip radar mods or not (That would ACTUALLY be a good use for the RADAR mods for once). If you make an EFFORT to slam mods that help you with capture - it's impossible, no mods, no upgrades for the stupid tranq rifle, nothing. 
3) Tracking involves running along a barely visible track, staring intently onto the bright, acid-orange glowing ground  with NOT A SINGLE track color being distinct from the environment. Bonus points for tracks leading god #*!%ing knows where.
4) Want to enlist a help of three more desperate people forced into animal capture? You #*!%ing can't, bozo. Because animal captures are affinity-range-bound, and you STILL WILL HAVE TO DO IT ONE BY ONE, no splitting up around the map possible.
5) Of course, maybe it's supposed to be relaxing. Sike, #*!%o. Constantly spawning enemies, including those who shoot at you from a mile away, and those who attack and kill your supposed capture. And you'd BETTER #*!%ING BE CAREFUL, because boy is it easy to scare off the animal, making this whole endeavor a fluke. Try again with the tracks.

At least making bad captures gives exactly the #*!%ing same rewards as going out of your way and making perfect ones, am I right? What a gift, making perfect captures completely worthless. Knowing that you won't be able to squeeze more than a 1000 standing out of a rare animal, despite being able to bag 8000 for a kubrodon in Vallis, if you cared to invest in your skill. If you wanted to and were good at that, you could bag 20k rep in captures faster than the same amount would be done in bounties. You COULD outperform bounties if you were good. It was a good alternative for people who wanted it. Now I have enough mother tokens to instalevel the syndicate to the max rank, so the standing is completely worthless, forced to now run around and trade in the dumbass coins. How is it possible to look at two perfectly functional open world syndicates and completely #*!% yourself up over nothing?!

+1 Took the words right out of my mouth, this is what needs to eb adressed. This is spot on! If only DE listened rather than stamping their foot down and demans we do the captures that are extremely annoying/bugged and difficult or miss out.

[Domaik]

wait what? is there more than one vault? what? where is this explained? in game I only get a marker to one vault.

[bibmobello]

16 hours ago, Liverslices said:

Conservation is not fun

Just use ivara if you wanna play this update.

[Neuroszima]

15 hours ago, Invoky said:

Token system is better, I like it. I already have 2 weeks worth of tokens saved up.

The old standing system handicaps players who has more time.

I get your point, but on the other hand:

• Main syndicates (like Steel Meridian) have ways of obtaining more standings than it's cap. You can do syndicate missions and obtain additional medalions that can be exchanged for standings without the look on your max cap.
• Hunting Simiaris scans go well along main missions + you can scan literally whatever you want in any mission/area you are for direct standing.
• Cetus/Fortuna also have "standing storing" in terms of fishes/gems, apart from main bounties that award you standings directly without a need to meet specific NPC after you finish to turn in "bounty rewards" back. And those fish/gems turn into regular standings, straight away.
• conservation in previous areas were highly lucrative, where you could sometimes get thousands of standings DIRECTLY, here you have to get tokens that you trade for another tokens to trade for standings, or YET ANOTHER tokens and THEN for standings (conservation tokens > son tokens > optional grandmother tokens to increase value in standings > standings)... i hope you see how ridiculous timewaste it is to do this, instead of "boom! you get points!". It is just a step that doesn't change anything except waste your time.
• Everyone that has done 200+ Tridolons have months or even years worth of standings in Onkko in cores, and yet it does not achieve anything, Everyone is still stuck in the "Oh you hit daily cap, i'm sorry hon you can't get more today!" bullS#&$. Even if you have, you still have to wait for tommorow to get more to progress.

If only grandmother tokens could let us exceed standing cap there... They are scarce and you can only get limited supply of them daily since those are on timer and expire so i could see it as potential nice buff, and it isn't overpowered/exploity strat 

[Autumnatopoeia]

5 hours ago, ShowStopper61 said:

Cutting fish through Daughter in Necralisk yields same amount of drop for multiple fishes. Please fix it

It displays incorrectly but you do get multiple parts for multiple fish.

[Karonuva]

12 hours ago, Diedact said:

Yessir, I believe it was a blatant misstep on DE's part. To totally skip over my unabashed hatred of all the Entrati. Every last one.

So we should just avoid any storytelling that happens in real life too? What? 

[bibmobello]

29 minutes ago, Domaik said:

wait what? is there more than one vault? what? where is this explained? in game I only get a marker to one vault.

Hey do you have vaults in this game?

[Karonuva]

12 hours ago, MBaldelli said:

Further, I would like to point out that we don't come into a game to deal with family dysfunction as we're doing with the Entrati, but instead come to the game to often escape the dysfunction in our own lives as a relief from those stresses as playing a game often does. 

Which raises the question, did our mothers put the developers up to making our gaming and recreational lives just as miserable and off-putting as we often have to put up with in our real-time lives?  

Seriously, what type of criticism is this? I've had to deal with awful family members too, but that doesn't mean I think anyone who puts a Slightly dysfunctional family in their story is actively trying to make me relive my trauma. If you can't separate a few bickering vendor characters from your own family, that really feels like a you problem.

[Till0]

hace 4 horas, Frument dijo:

I think the most awful thing about universally-hated mandatory tacked-on minigame that's called "Conservation" is the fact that it feels like it's engineered to be the absolute worst it could be.

1) You have your tranq rifle, which gives nothing but godawful beeps that say "There might be an animal in a 100 mile radius around you, who knows!". The animal silhouette is #*!%ing periodically showing, you have to wait for every #*!%ing beep to try and search it out. And, of course, cherry on the cake. IT'S #*!%ING PALE ORANGE IN A WORLD MADE EXCLUSIVELY OF ORANGE GLOWING THINGS. If you TRIED you wouldn't be able to think up a WORSE color and a WORSE type of silhouette display than this.
2) Animals don't appear on the minimap, no matter if you equip radar mods or not (That would ACTUALLY be a good use for the RADAR mods for once). If you make an EFFORT to slam mods that help you with capture - it's impossible, no mods, no upgrades for the stupid tranq rifle, nothing. 
3) Tracking involves running along a barely visible track, staring intently onto the bright, acid-orange glowing ground  with NOT A SINGLE track color being distinct from the environment. Bonus points for tracks leading god #*!%ing knows where.
4) Want to enlist a help of three more desperate people forced into animal capture? You #*!%ing can't, bozo. Because animal captures are affinity-range-bound, and you STILL WILL HAVE TO DO IT ONE BY ONE, no splitting up around the map possible.
5) Of course, maybe it's supposed to be relaxing. Sike, #*!%o. Constantly spawning enemies, including those who shoot at you from a mile away, and those who attack and kill your supposed capture. And you'd BETTER #*!%ING BE CAREFUL, because boy is it easy to scare off the animal, making this whole endeavor a fluke. Try again with the tracks.

At least making bad captures gives exactly the #*!%ing same rewards as going out of your way and making perfect ones, am I right? What a gift, making perfect captures completely worthless. Knowing that you won't be able to squeeze more than a 1000 standing out of a rare animal, despite being able to bag 8000 for a kubrodon in Vallis, if you cared to invest in your skill. If you wanted to and were good at that, you could bag 20k rep in captures faster than the same amount would be done in bounties. You COULD outperform bounties if you were good. It was a good alternative for people who wanted it. Now I have enough mother tokens to instalevel the syndicate to the max rank, so the standing is completely worthless, forced to now run around and trade in the dumbass coins. How is it possible to look at two perfectly functional open world syndicates and completely #*!% yourself up over nothing?!

+1

[SublimeAvenger]

Endless Excavation: They mean it when they say endless. We did one round, tried to extract, told us we failed and we get no cake. Went back, did 3 rounds, same prob, says we failed. Went back, did 6 rounds, same prob. I get that endless means endless, but can we at least be able to extract at some point? 

Thx!

[siamesesnow]

20+ vaults and 10+ Scintallent missions later. 2 Scintallent you sure this is a common reward?

[ZloGlaZ]

Grinding isn't my only interest.  I'm also interested in grinding.

[Emperrier]

Conservation would be massively improved by just directly awarding tokens. As it is, perfect captures give you nothing and floofs are in competition with actual progress.

In general, Deimos would be massively improved by not having forgotten a bunch of lessons you seemed to learn going from plains to Fortuna. Insert brozime rant about making guns with fish brains

[Sotales]

All Heavy Gunner variants have 1400 armor compared to the 500 they used to have. Have not seen this documented anywhere.

[MBaldelli]

1 hour ago, CephKaron said:

Seriously, what type of criticism is this? I've had to deal with awful family members too, but that doesn't mean I think anyone who puts a Slightly dysfunctional family in their story is actively trying to make me relive my trauma. If you can't separate a few bickering vendor characters from your own family, that really feels like a you problem.

Some of us don't want to remotely deal with any memory triggers of it whatsoever.  If this works for you, don't let my criticism stop you from enjoying the game with the Entrati interactions.  However, don't for once think that your opinion is going to remotely pressure me out of mine, as I live by the the quote: "You're a problem solver. You're one of these people who would pick up a rope that's gotten all tangled up and spend an entire day untangling it. Because it's a challenge, because it defies your sense of order in the universe and because you can."

Therefore, I find the inclusion to be something I will criticise in the hopes of it being tweaked.  Particularly over the fact that it seems to be routinely included in routine interactions.  It's like DE needs to justify the payments to the voice actors for creating the dialog, or they're doing it as some sort of concession to the new overlords (Tencent); I can't be sure which or if I missed something in my observations.  

[Znuff]

Requiring 5 Common Avichaea tags for 2->3 Ranking is ridiculous.

1. I've only managed to find exactly 2 spawn points for these, so far
2. Out of these, I only managed to get Common ones... once
3. The tracking is buggy as hell:
   • For instance, there is one point where you start tracking inside a cave
   • You follow the trail inside the cave... then it suddenly disappears
   • ...you go outside, and the calling point is out there, maybe 100 meters+ away from where you last saw the track

This is a joke.

How did this even pass Internal QA?