This expansion is way too complex and too much hassle.

[xxvaderxxar]

Yeah, im pretty much done, i dont play warframe to chase after a mythic unattainable drop. Neither i play this game to do puzzles.

 

[xxvaderxxar]

Warframe is an tps diablo, i dont want to jump through 20 different hoops while playing this game, this is just jump slash kill rince and repeat. This expansion is way too complicated need 20 different tokens, materials from multiple planets and so on.

This is not what warframe is set up to be.

[KrazyKavatLady]

You think HoD is complex????? Wow. We must be playing different games then. I honestly wish they released everything that is supposed to be part of the HoD; instead, they're holding back some of the content. It honestly seems like a moderate update in my eyes.

1 minute ago, xxvaderxxar said:

This is not what warframe is set up to be.

WF hasn't been a basic hack'n'slash shooter/looter game for years. That fact isn't going to change.

[Thundervision]

Not baiting or trolling, but this is pretty much what people were warning about when DE dropped the MR requirement bar

[KrazyKavatLady]

3 minutes ago, Thundervision said:

Not baiting or trolling, but this is pretty much what people were warning about when DE dropped the MR requirement bar

Yep. Lots of newbies who want things just handed to them. 

Ugh. 

[Marine027]

vor 3 Minuten schrieb KrazyKavatLady:

Yep. Lots of newbies who want things just handed to them. 

Ugh. 

Well, this tho is also partly DE's fault, opening such places way earlyot players, look at Vallis and Plains, Nightwave also not helps in that regard, asking to go there also often, and yes you not need to do the challanges but it is sitll slapped in your face, GW2 does this very well in that regard as example, only giving dailys to maps and stuff you can actually enter already with a character, so it is progress to unlock for later and changes the dailys to fit what you have and can do already.

They need to lock those places but then they can#t lure in new players and maek more money, right? New players make more money then old, as much i am new player pro also, liking casual then some elitist stuff, it needs a reasoanble progress map, but hey, who i am to decide, they not even can get there Lore right in order right? Alad V and all, normal, non infested, infested agian, healed agian, due some dumb event you can't even replay and puttign his infested form as one of the alst bosses on the last planets right?

But sure, only the players fault wanting to much.

[Askell91]

26 minutes ago, xxvaderxxar said:

Yeah, im pretty much done, i dont play warframe to chase after a mythic unattainable drop. Neither i play this game to do puzzles.

 

This is complex?.... How?

[PookieNumnums]

Tedium 

 Many high rank founders and long time players share ops sentiment. 

Tbt, 

Many of us would rather ground out 10000 tokens of one type across all avenues however we see fit, than grind 75 from five separate methods each. Not everyone likes mining, fishing, conservation, or bounties.  Solaris and ostrons let us grind through our preferred methods. This pigeonholes us into each one. Variety isnt always the spice of life. 

 

[Ceryk]

16 minutes ago, KrazyKavatLady said:

You think HoD is complex????? Wow. We must be playing different games then. I honestly wish they released everything that is supposed to be part of the HoD; instead, they're holding back some of the content. It honestly seems like a moderate update in my eyes.

WF hasn't been a basic hack'n'slash shooter/looter game for years. That fact isn't going to change.

It's never been a looter ever, so I don't get where the OP is getting this Diablo idea from...

[TheGrimCorsair]

Just now, PookieNumnums said:

Tedium 

 Many high rank founders and long time players share ops sentiment. 

Tbt, 

Many of us would rather ground out 10000 tokens of one type across all avenues however we see fit, than grind 75 from five separate methods each. Not everyone likes mining, fishing, conservation, or bounties.  Solaris and ostrons let us grind through our preferred methods. This pigeonholes us into each one. Variety isnt always the spice of life. 

 

The only one that's even kind of a pain is Conservation.

The rest have multiple avenues to get their drops, and conservation should as well. Maybe some kind of nest raid or something that lets you get a large number of a type of animal in exchange for waiting a day for them to mature/hatch.

[PookieNumnums]

9 minutes ago, TheGrimCorsair said:

The only one that's even kind of a pain is Conservation.

The rest have multiple avenues to get their drops, and conservation should as well. Maybe some kind of nest raid or something that lets you get a large number of a type of animal in exchange for waiting a day for them to mature/hatch.

You have to earn drops from their things to get their tokens and to get their items to build things. Doing just vault runs and bounties isnt a feasible or complete way. 

Conservation is actually mostly easier since at least one of each animal type freeroams. 

Unlink vallis and plains. 

[Lichformed]

31 minutes ago, xxvaderxxar said:

Yeah, im pretty much done, i dont play warframe to chase after a mythic unattainable drop. Neither i play this game to do puzzles.

 

I'm pretty sure the game has always been chasing "mythic unattainable drops" though? Am I wrong? Why do people play this game again?

And come on the only puzzle you need to do for a lootsplosion is memorize 4 icons and hit them in the correct order.

Sure it's not as easy as the puzzles in Skyrim where the solution is right on top of the puzzles, but still.

 

[Volcombrot]

I am terrible sorry, but where exactly is this a "complex" update?

• Do bountys, get mother tokens.
• Go outside, catch Fish, cut them up, trade fish intestines for daughter tockens.
• Go outside, tranquelize pets, collect pets, trade pet tags for son tokens.
  • (Tbh, this one sucks. Yes. And there are things which could be improved to make it a lot.. "smoother". Like a lot of things!)
• Go outside, collect all kinds of ressources dropped by trees, bushes, enemys, trade these ressources against father tokens.
• Go outside, mine some minerals & gemstones, trade these against Otak tokens.
• Trade all kinds of family tokens against grandmother tokens.
• Trade grandmother tokens for cosmetics or one ressource (which is kinda expensive with 20 GM Tokens, but you need it like two or three times, which makes it ok so far)
• And each token can be traded for standing.

Sorry, but where exactly is that complicated?..
And that was the most complex it gets, when it comes to the new update. Everything else was in the game before this update.
Yes, there are (a lot of) bugs, there are stupid mechanics, there are imbalanced ideas.

But apart from Scintillat (or whatever that B*llsh*t is called..) I really like the new update. They made a system, where you need to do at least some activities of all types there are in this game. And I didn't even know what conservation is and made only enough bounties to farm the Mods/Warframes I needed, skipped everything else. I haven't caught a single animal in PoE or caught a fish on Fortuna (besides the 6 rare fish for Nightwave)

Also, you need like:

• 10 daughter
• 30 father
• 20 mother
• 15 Son Token

(20200827, all numbers are from the warframe wiki and may not be accurate anymore)

This is all tokens needed to reach Rank 4 in the Entrati. (And some tokens for the standing, but since you can trade mother tokens, I will not consider the tokens for standing in this equation.) Sorry, but this is basicly nothing! 10 daughter tokens is like.. an hour of fishing & checking the daughter for tokens every now & then.
Father & Mother tokens are farmed while doing bountys. To be fair: Yes, a lot of father token packages need S#&$tilant, but DE is already aware that this needs to be buffed. And I've gotten more than enough father tokens without spending a single scinlattint.
The son is a bit troublesome, but welp. Just fly around, shoot random animals and you will get the tokens - exspecially as they already nerved the amount of Son Tokens you need for a lot of things. I flew around the map twice, shot every single animal in sight and were able to trade ~30 son tokens by now. And maybe I was just lucky, but I also got more than 5 Common Avicii Tags while doing so.
(For everyone asking: Yes, I didn't do this whole track animals down thingy. I just flew on the border of the map and found a hell ton of animals. Even rare ones like Medjay Dogs)

And since you don't need the GM or Otak Tokens for anything, I will not consider these. If they come in at Rank 5 so be it. I could imaging GM Tokens for Rank 5, but there are also GM Tokens you get for only one kind of tokens. And maybe it will take some time, but you will get there. This is still a grinding game. And yes, you need stuff from different planets. But you already have them, if you just played that planet.
Thats not complicated! Thats farming. Saying "I don't like Xaku, because I need ressources from Deimos and Fortuna" is like saying that you don't like Wisp, because you need ressources from Jupiter & from [Other Planet].

Your whole "argumentation" is "I don't like it, cause I have to do things, which aren't killing everything on sight.". And thats utter nonsense, this game doesn't deserve.
If you want to kill things, without the farming - play World of Tanks.

[(PSN)AllOrNothinDays]

This was their worst update for me but to be fair, I'm also on the tipping point where they can release another update and instead of sticking my head in or messing around with it when I'm not playing a game I'll just ignore it altogether. I was wondering why people were hyping this up when I thought it was just going to be like the other open worlds, new busywork, another dumb faction to level up. All I want now it to see a full leveled necromech just to see how the gameplay is at this point because I did one bounty and was already done with the content, I didn't want to do it anymore and that's very very bad. Kind of sad to see.

 

Good games mask the fact they want to keep you playing but the token system and other stuff, I just had to roll my eyes and with the mask off it doesn't allow me to forgive them easily.

[Askell91]

1 hour ago, (PS4)AllOrNothinDays said:

This was their worst update for me but to be fair, I'm also on the tipping point where they can release another update and instead of sticking my head in or messing around with it when I'm not playing a game I'll just ignore it altogether. I was wondering why people were hyping this up when I thought it was just going to be like the other open worlds, new busywork, another dumb faction to level up. All I want now it to see a full leveled necromech just to see how the gameplay is at this point because I did one bounty and was already done with the content, I didn't want to do it anymore and that's very very bad. Kind of sad to see.

 

Good games mask the fact they want to keep you playing but the token system and other stuff, I just had to roll my eyes and with the mask off it doesn't allow me to forgive them easily.

Mechs are fun but you can kinda only lvl them solo becouse affinity gain is bugged out of it's freaking mind. 😄 

(in short.. everything deletes the affinity on it... host migration... redeploying it... getting your archwing out... even extraction in partys...ima kinda done at this point...)

[VRHmason]

2 hours ago, Volcombrot said:

I am terrible sorry, but where exactly is this a "complex" update?

I just hope this is sarcasm