Force players to do conservation, and offer tags for plat? Really?

[Brunzwick]

This seems reeeeeeeally shady to me. Why are these available for plat purchase, why are they required for syndicate progression? 

[Cerikus]

5 minutes ago, (NSW)Brunzwick said:

This seems reeeeeeeally shady to me. Why are these available for plat purchase, why are they required for syndicate progression? 

No it isn't. People wanted a way around it. A lot of people said that they would literally rather pay plat. So DE added it.

The conservation required to rank up is laughably easy and quick even before the hotfix will come, so if you don't like it and you reaaaaaly cannot be bothered to spend literally 10-20 minutes, then you can choose the plat way.

I think it is absolutely fine and a good solution to the problem.

[Brunzwick]

That's creating a problem and then selling the solution, which is really scummy 

[(PSN)Quantaminum]

3 minutes ago, (NSW)Brunzwick said:

That's creating a problem and then selling the solution, which is really scummy 

except some ppl in the community asked for that solution in particular

[Cerikus]

1 minute ago, (NSW)Brunzwick said:

That's creating a problem and then selling the solution, which is really scummy 

There is no problem, just a part of a content that some people didn't like. Vast majority has no problem with the conservation, but the loud minority has pushed DE into this.

I wish DE did some kind of ingame poll about the conservation. I would really like to know if that many people hate it. I doubt it. When it released on Fortuna the amount of people obsessing over it and the floofs was big.

[Marine027]

vor 11 Minuten schrieb (NSW)Brunzwick:

That's creating a problem and then selling the solution, which is really scummy 

This so much, but hey they now can say "we listened to feedback", right? Instead of you know adding real optional ways, paying plat i can accept actually, but yet more options to actually PLAY the GAME would be nice.

This is waht games become and people accept it sadly, right EA, Ubsioft, etc? Time Saver packs?

The sad thing is people tell me this is what people want sadly, and it is so true sadly i want to cry. This is what gaming has become, a cruel industry lieing to and robbing of people with the shadiest options they can do and not even often pay there own employees but the money givers and CEO's instead, right chinese overlords buying all?

Butwe  can't change it peopel say, to much hangs on it, well then never willget  any change if we not let risk things and even in the gaming industry let franchises simply die, the industire needs a restart as a whole, companies became to powerful and become way to fast those people, DE stopped being a Indie Developer long ago and became the very Triple A company like all the others.

They not NEED all this money, no company does but making less moeny then the year before already counts as "lose" even that it is still profit and then trow out employees. For god sake i worked in a food store of all things and had such there aswell, only to be trown out due couldn't "afford me anymore", only to rebuild his store a few weeks after to make it bigger.

I not say DE is that way, they are still far better then others but they slowly walk down this path in my eyes.

[Brunzwick]

They're hotfixing it now, after they've made their money off of the people who were going to spend plat on it, so now they get to look good for "listening to feedback" too. 

[Cerikus]

3 minutes ago, Marine027 said:

This so much, but hey they now can say "we listened to feedback", right? Instead of oyu know adding real optional ways, paying plat i can accept actually, but yet more options ot actually PLAY the GAME would be nice.

This is waht gaems becoem and people accept it sadly, right EA, Upsioft, etc? Time Saver packs?

The sad thing is peopel tell me this is what people want sadly, and it is so true sadly i want to cry. This is what gaming has become a cruel industry lieing ot and robbing of people with the shadiest options they can do and not even often pay there own employees but the money giversand CEO's instead, right chinese overlords buyign all?

But can#t change it peopel say, to much hangs on it, well then never will any change if we not let things risk and even in the gaming industry let franchises simply die, the industire needs a restart as a whole, people became ot powerful and become way to fast those people, DE stopped being a Indie Developer long a ago and became the very Triple A company like all the others.

They not NEED all this money, no company does but making less moeny then the year before already countsas "lose" evne that it is still profit and then trow out employees.

I not say DE is that way, they are still far better then others but they slowly walk down this path in my eyes.

You would be right, if the situation was different.

If you had to spend hours getting the tags, I would go and riot with everybody else.

But getting the stuff you really need to progress takes 20 minutes MAX and DE will reduce this by a lot in the next hotfix, so it will be 5 minutes? less?

If people hate conservation and cannot bear it for 5 minutes, plat is 100% fine.

Talking about evil cruel industry that's robbing people is totally displaced here and faulty.

[Cerikus]

3 minutes ago, (NSW)Brunzwick said:

They're hotfixing it now, after they've made their money off of the people who were going to spend plat on it, so now they get to look good for "listening to feedback" too. 

You cannot buy it yet.

IT IS NOT A FEATURE YET.

They are adding it with the next hotfix.

Because people wanted it.

[Brunzwick]

I'm playing on Switch, it IS a feature here already. I am literally looking at it in game. 

[Marine027]

vor 6 Minuten schrieb Cerikus:

You would be right, if the situation was different.

If you had to spend hours getting the tags, I would go and riot with everybody else.

But getting the stuff you really need to progress takes 20 minutes MAX and DE will reduce this by a lot in the next hotfix, so it will be 5 minutes? less?

If people hate conservation and cannot bear it for 5 minutes, plat is 100% fine.

Talking about evil cruel industry that's robbing people is totally displaced here and faulty.

It is right, due as stated DE is no Indie Dev anymore, they could make servers and playtest properly, instead we are there free used personal as beta testers for years, and them hotfixing it is not ok and palying good guys after.

If this would be more tested the things would not occur in the first place, not startign this forum fire at all, people wanting there effort mean something or want it repayed in some way, which often even fails and causes more issues and more threads, a endless cicle because of, forgive my wording, incompetence and stubborness DE shows with each of those updates.

It may be not greedy but rather lazyness and incompetence at best. Again forgive my wording but it is how i can best word those and how it appears to me.

[Cerikus]

2 minutes ago, (NSW)Brunzwick said:

I'm playing on Switch, it IS a feature here already. I am literally looking at it in game. 

I have checked the patchnotes. They added it 1 hour ago. You guys actually got the hotfix before PC.
We don't have it on PC yet.

[Brunzwick]

Ah alright, if they added the buying them with plat in the same hotfix that reduced them from requiring 10 to 1, that's fine with me then. I was seeing it as being in there from the start (because that's how it looked on Switch).