The Entrati and the Primes.

[(PSN)I_I_Hope_I_I]

So, one of the main issues this game has had for a long time have been the PRIME items, and one that has always bothered me was our friend Revenant.

Revenant has been in my mind for a while now, as his quest states that his powers were gotten trough a Ropalolyst, I always wondered how DE would come up whit his Prime, as by logic, the Prime should not have Revenants powers, and now Xaku came along, posing an even bigger question to the Priming of them. 

But, DE might now have a worry free option, as we now have a whole squad of friendly Orokin whit us, and if they could make Xaku, chances are that they might be able to Prime a Warframe, giving DE a new way to basically Prime pretty much everything whiteout worrying, as any Warframe that has lore blocking them from having a Prime can now just use the Entrati as an excuse.

What do you guys think ?

[Chewarette]

I think they don't care about Prime lore. Valkyr aussi has weird lore, Revenant and Nidus will be no exception to the WTF lore.

[(XBOX)C11H22O11]

Orokin made sentients don't see how revenant can't be primed, Nidus is just going to have armor, Valkyr wasn't weird people make it confusing.

Valkyr was always pissed off she's a berserker 

 

[Bryuf]

The way I understand, what happened to Revenant happened to the original (AKA prime) in the days before the fall of the empire. The parts and bp we get are just a tenno processed version that uses simpler materials to achieve a mundane version of the prime.

The same can be said for Xaku, who were originally 3 warframes that got destroyed and reassembled (by the Orokin) to what they are today. Again, the non-prime is just an attempt to reconstruct them with tenno materials

[(PSN)I_I_Hope_I_I]

1 minute ago, (XB1)C11H22O11 said:

Orokin made sentients don't see how revenant can't be primed, Nidus is just going to have armor, Valkyr wasn't weird people make it confusing.

Valkyr was always pissed off she's a berserker 

 

The issue of Revenant is that he was not made to have Sentient powers, he got the by accident wen the Ropalolyst was still in PoE, so, by logic, there would have to exist several Revenants whitout the Sentient Power, or that at least Revenant became a one of a kind Warframe, and the Orokin would be none the wiser since we unearth his parts from PoE, meaning the Orokin never got him back.

Nidus is easy to Prime, he doesnt have lore holding him back, and yea, Valkyr is just a Berserker Warframe, Alad V didnt make her any diferent apart from torturing her and give our Valkyr a grudge.

[(PSN)I_I_Hope_I_I]

1 minute ago, Bryuf said:

The way I understand, what happened to Revenant happened to the original (AKA prime) in the days before the fall of the empire. The parts and bp we get are just a tenno processed version that uses simpler materials to achieve a mundane version of the prime.

The same can be said for Xaku, who were originally 3 warframes that got destroyed and reassembled (by the Orokin) to what they are today. Again, the non-prime is just an attempt to reconstruct them with tenno materials

But... we unearth his parts from PoE, where the Ropalolyst thing happened, we literally fight him for his BP... how was it the PRIME... ?

Xaku is said to be a amalgamation from the Entrati Void, it CLEARLY states that it was made from old Warframes that got rekt in Void expedition from wen the Entrati used to do them, not only does this show that Main Warframes are confirmed to be of Orokin-era, it also shows that Warframes can work again if placed back togheter, even whit different parts, so, not only does this make the Foundry more lore friendly, it also means that the Entrati would be able to create a Xaku Prime as long as they made it from Prime Parts of those dead frames no ?

[Bryuf]

Just now, (PS4)I_I_Hope_I_I said:

But... we unearth his parts from PoE, where the Ropalolyst thing happened, we literally fight him for his BP... how was it the PRIME... ?

Good point, I forgot that we literally fight the non-prime version. That makes it a bit more complicated

1 minute ago, (PS4)I_I_Hope_I_I said:

Xaku is said to be a amalgamation from the Entrati Void, it CLEARLY states that it was made from old Warframes that got rekt in Void expedition from wen the Entrati used to do them, not only does this show that Main Warframes are confirmed to be of Orokin-era, it also shows that Warframes can work again if placed back togheter, even whit different parts, so, not only does this make the Foundry more lore friendly, it also means that the Entrati would be able to create a Xaku Prime as long as they made it from Prime Parts of those dead frames no ?

Another explanation could be that non-primes simply coexisted with primes in the Orokin-era - It's never clearly stated if each frame is a unique individual or not so a possibilty is that the Orokin simply made the massproduced non-primes first and then singular Mk-2 primes. Either way it's true that prime lore is messy

[(PSN)I_I_Hope_I_I]

1 minute ago, Bryuf said:

Good point, I forgot that we literally fight the non-prime version. That makes it a bit more complicated

Another explanation could be that non-primes simply coexisted with primes in the Orokin-era - It's never clearly stated if each frame is a unique individual or not so a possibilty is that the Orokin simply made the massproduced non-primes first and then singular Mk-2 primes. Either way it's true that prime lore is messy

By the games lore, we should take it as face value that ALL Warframes were made by using humans, as this is what the Sacrifice portraits and its something that isnt debunked anywhere in the game, and that yes, Prime Warframes and Main Warframes co-existed, The Orokin simply kept Priming the Main Warframes for the Old War, but once it ended the project kept going but they cut on the resources and just left them be their normal way, as Priming them wasnt really needed anymore, frames simply do not start as Primes, they are made into Primes, as the Primes are just the normal Warframes whit Orokin top notch tech.