C-Core Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 So, I just got the helminth segment, and I got it to rank 2 by feeding it everything I could. Now it's full and can't eat again, unless I subsume a warframe which you can only do once per day. Some people already have maxed out helminths at rank 10. How on earth? Also, while we're at it, are DE really making the helminth need loads of railjack resources so we actually go back and play that.... I literally have none of those resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schilds Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Infuse abilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzerkules Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, schilds said: Infuse abilities. Then remove abilities.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, C-Core said: Now it's full and can't eat again, unless I subsume a warframe which you can only do once per day. Some people already have maxed out helminths at rank 10. How on earth? Both subsuming warframes and infusing abilities cost resources. And you get experience for all 3 actions: feeding, infusing, subsuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schilds Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Berzerkules said: Then remove abilities.. That depends on how many frames you have 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myscho Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Btw, is there any mastery hidden behind this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Core Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, Xaero said: Both subsuming warframes and infusing abilities cost resources. And you get experience for all 3 actions: feeding, infusing, subsuming. Ah, I see. So just keep spamming add and remove abilities so it uses up the resources to gain xp. Only annoying thing is, the only abilities I have atm are the helminth specific ones, and they all need so many railjack resources which I just dont have haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, schilds said: Infuse abilities. 3 minutes ago, Berzerkules said: Then remove abilities.. Stab endlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berzerkules Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Just now, schilds said: That depends on how many frames you have 😛 The next one in line for subsume gets stabbed for a day before I feed it to the wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 hour ago, C-Core said: are DE really making the helminth need loads of railjack resources so we actually go back and play that.... I literally have none of those resources. you don't, but plenty of people who played railjack from it's (dreadful) launch do. Helminth is intended to act as a resource sink, something veteran players have been wanting for years: a way to finally get rid of endless stockpiles of common and uncommon resources that we would otherwise take a lifetime to use up. if you're someone with a maxed out railjack who kept doing anomalies for Shedu Parts, you'll have more resources for railjack than you actually need anyway. DE also said they wanted to connect different parts of the game together; now Helminth is connected to railjack. bear in mind, Helminth was originally aimed at veteran players, ones who had these stockpiles. but then DE chickened out, made it "accessible" and now you just have MR8's who can access the system , but not use it because they don't have enough resources, so what exactly was the point in making it "accessible" in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaotyke Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 minutes ago, (PS4)robotwars7 said: you don't, but plenty of people who played railjack from it's (dreadful) launch do. Helminth is intended to act as a resource sink, something veteran players have been wanting for years: a way to finally get rid of endless stockpiles of common and uncommon resources that we would otherwise take a lifetime to use up. if you're someone with a maxed out railjack who kept doing anomalies for Shedu Parts, you'll have more resources for railjack than you actually need anyway. DE also said they wanted to connect different parts of the game together; now Helminth is connected to railjack. bear in mind, Helminth was originally aimed at veteran players, ones who had these stockpiles. but then DE chickened out, made it "accessible" and now you just have MR8's who can access the system , but not use it because they don't have enough resources, so what exactly was the point in making it "accessible" in the first place? "Now you have something to work towards." ~ Baro "ain't that some shi*t" Ki'tears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Just now, Kaotyke said: "Now you have something to work towards." ~ Baro "ain't that some shi*t" Ki'tears basically. but people respond to that in one of two ways: they either buck up and are motivated to work towards the goal, or they give up on it. I'd wager most people will do the latter anyway, so that makes it a waste of time, making it accessible to people who will take one look at the resource requirements, and then how many resources they are lacking, and say "f**k that". at MR15, most people have more than enough materials to build just about anything, so more people would have been able to jump into the system right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0_The_F00l Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 i expect the infuse-remove-infuse again thing to be patched , *Gets ready to start clicking buttons rapidly in 24 hours* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Core Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 hour ago, (PS4)robotwars7 said: you don't, but plenty of people who played railjack from it's (dreadful) launch do. Helminth is intended to act as a resource sink, something veteran players have been wanting for years: a way to finally get rid of endless stockpiles of common and uncommon resources that we would otherwise take a lifetime to use up. if you're someone with a maxed out railjack who kept doing anomalies for Shedu Parts, you'll have more resources for railjack than you actually need anyway. DE also said they wanted to connect different parts of the game together; now Helminth is connected to railjack. bear in mind, Helminth was originally aimed at veteran players, ones who had these stockpiles. but then DE chickened out, made it "accessible" and now you just have MR8's who can access the system , but not use it because they don't have enough resources, so what exactly was the point in making it "accessible" in the first place? Yeah, I pretty much skipped out railjack when it launched cause it was just unplayable. Way too many bugs. I've been playing it a tonne since I made this post (Not using my own railjack of course), it's actually pretty fun tbf, aside from the fact that the amount of content in it is minimal, and the grind for repairing weapons is insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagamilight123 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 hace 5 horas, (PS4)robotwars7 dijo: you don't, but plenty of people who played railjack from it's (dreadful) launch do. Helminth is intended to act as a resource sink, something veteran players have been wanting for years: a way to finally get rid of endless stockpiles of common and uncommon resources that we would otherwise take a lifetime to use up. if you're someone with a maxed out railjack who kept doing anomalies for Shedu Parts, you'll have more resources for railjack than you actually need anyway. DE also said they wanted to connect different parts of the game together; now Helminth is connected to railjack. bear in mind, Helminth was originally aimed at veteran players, ones who had these stockpiles. but then DE chickened out, made it "accessible" and now you just have MR8's who can access the system , but not use it because they don't have enough resources, so what exactly was the point in making it "accessible" in the first place? The problem its not that he needs Railjack resources .... the problem its that the amount its stupidly unbalanced , it takes you like 1000% more time to farm 1 feed of railjack resources than any other . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galuf Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 I think it won't get patched, I infused only a warframe and subsumed 2 and I'm already rank 4. There is no extra benefit rushing xp else than unlocking skills you'll get in less than a week anyway lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagamilight123 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 hace 52 minutos, Galuf dijo: I think it won't get patched, I infused only a warframe and subsumed 2 and I'm already rank 4. There is no extra benefit rushing xp else than unlocking skills you'll get in less than a week anyway lol. In less than a week the "mark" skill its going to be nerfed really hard xD , so if you want to have some fun with it you need to rush it haha . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeoni Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 I am not sure if this really is solved by "waiting". I won't have stockpiles of those rare resources suddenly a week or two later, or even a month. They take time. And I have been pretty diligent with collecting resources as is, am MR29 with everything but the new stuff maxed. But I will run out of bile resources very soon. Maybe this is the system aimed at people who have always been running resource boosters. ^^ That would certainly have helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonspartan1 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 2020-08-29 at 7:14 PM, (XB1)TyeGoo said: Honestly I'm not gonna bother with that.. I'm fine with waiting for max rank, even if it takes weeks/months But I wish we could speed up subsuming with plat ._. DE most likely wants us to not rush the Helminth system and be done with it in a few days (even though some people rushed the ranking up bit), so they want us to wait on warframes to be subsumed than having instant access to them. Don’t mind the waiting anyway. Have to grind and build 90% of the warframes again anyway cus i always sold my warframes when i got their prime variants, so i can start grinding and building frames as the helminth is busy consuming the frames i have spares of, or have finished building just to have Helminth consume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernal Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 2020-08-30 at 12:39 AM, C-Core said: Yeah, I pretty much skipped out railjack when it launched cause it was just unplayable. Way too many bugs. I've been playing it a tonne since I made this post (Not using my own railjack of course), it's actually pretty fun tbf, aside from the fact that the amount of content in it is minimal, and the grind for repairing weapons is insane. The grind to repair weapons isn't too bad - most of the resources are low tier ones, so you can just start a really low level Earth Proxima mission, finish it quickly, and then activate the Particle Ram ability and fly around the asteroids and debris field for a few minutes till you're satisfied/have cleared all lootables. You'll come out of it with resources hitting five digits even without a booster in most cases. Obviously this works for farming RJ resources to feed your Helminth too. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TEKKENGOD420 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 The biggest problem I have with it (other than the wonky cost of some resources) is that it costs resources to subsume a frame. I mean I’m literally feeding him a whole warframe, he should not need to eat resources to eat a frame. But that’s just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokibukisa Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Railjack is stupid easy now. If you haven’t gotten into it yet I can teach you a noob friendly load out that will clear a gian point in 5min or less solo, and 2 1/2 minutes with an awake artillery gunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlada91 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 hour ago, (PS4)TEKKENGOD420 said: The biggest problem I have with it (other than the wonky cost of some resources) is that it costs resources to subsume a frame. I mean I’m literally feeding him a whole warframe, he should not need to eat resources to eat a frame. But that’s just my two cents. Good point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)InverseOrb81 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 On 2020-08-31 at 9:17 AM, (PS4)TEKKENGOD420 said: The biggest problem I have with it (other than the wonky cost of some resources) is that it costs resources to subsume a frame. I mean I’m literally feeding him a whole warframe, he should not need to eat resources to eat a frame. But that’s just my two cents. The Helminth uses the secretions to help digest the subsumed warframe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhanMaytok Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 En 31/8/2020 a las 9:06, Hokibukisa dijo: Railjack is stupid easy now. If you haven’t gotten into it yet I can teach you a noob friendly load out that will clear a gian point in 5min or less solo, and 2 1/2 minutes with an awake artillery gunner. I want to learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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