Helminth Railjack Resource Feed Amounts

[Jukantos]

Remember the moment during TennoLive when Steve told Rebecca NOT to feed Railjack resources? Because the numbers were bonkers high?

Well to my astonishment they are still bonkers high. 12500 of the common resources. 10000 and 1000 of RARE resources that i maybe find 20-ish per mission. As a single feed bundle which is now the only resource type my Helminth wants in certain categories.

Is this truly intended? Are the feed amounts ment to be this insanely high? Like 1000 Kestrels and 10000 Trachons, REALLY? And why is a single feed package FIVE keys for the Exploiter Orb fight? I can't feed him 5 Orokin Derelict Assassinate keys (granted those don't really exist anymore), but that'd be outrageous too, so why is Thermia on here? Most of the Fish- and MIning-Stuff is notably completely absent as well - shouldn't the fish and their parts make for feeding materials too?

And how does his favor of a resource reset, do i HAVE to grind up thousands of railjack resources or donate Rubedo for 3% until the end of time? Considering Steve made it sound like it was genuinely unintentionally busted during TennoLive this is very much confusing and worrying me.

[xombob89]

I have tons of resources and still was surprised how big of a chunk this thing wants from some of them. After playing this game for years I expected to easilly to feed him to max rank but now Im not so sure 🧐

Edit: Someone said at later ranks you need less feeding technically, because you get more subsume slots. So maybe its not as bad as it seems. 

[Emperrier]

The dislike bar fades away with time. It seems like about 24 hours to go from red arrow to neutral.

Also one of the helminth upgrade tiers is being able to feed "sentient resources" (cores, presumably, though I guess they could be having a giggle and mean eidolon shards) to reset the dislike bar.

But yes, the railjack resources (1000 rares in particular) are just outlandish.

[herflik]

They wanted to burn our resources on Railjack building, later they reduced it by a lot and refunded the resources. I guess this process will repeat here or it will stay as the the end-game resource burn.

[Rantear]

I won't buy the segment until i max out the standing, so i wanna ask in advance:
What about the mutagen samples and the cryotic? How much of these does it require?

[Yagamilight123]

hace 36 minutos, xombob89 dijo:

I have tons of resources and still was surprised how big of a chunk this thing wants from some of them. After playing this game for years I expected to easilly to feed him to max rank but now Im not so sure 🧐

Edit: Someone said at later ranks you need less feeding technically, because you get more subsume slots. So maybe its not as bad as it seems. 

Subsume slots are the amount of abilities that you can have store i think ... not the amount of frames you can extract at the same time ....

[Rantear]

1 минуту назад, Yagamilight123 сказал:

Subsume slots are the amount of abilities that you can have store i think ... not the amount of frames you can extract at the same time ....

If nothing has changed from the demo, i believe they meant that you can subsume frames instead of feeding, as it also gives standing

[Yagamilight123]

? ... no ... subsume frames cost you "food" it not give food .

[Yagamilight123]

hace 4 minutos, (XB1)TyeGoo dijo:

Quick question: did they change the rule for prime frames? Because I have an extra hydroid prime I have no use for.. 

Anyway, I agree. The railjack resources are a bit immense.. 

No , you cant use prime or umbra versions

[Jukantos]

vor 16 Stunden schrieb Rantear:

I won't buy the segment until i max out the standing, so i wanna ask in advance:
What about the mutagen samples and the cryotic? How much of these does it require?

125 Mutagen Samples, 3000 Cryotic per feed package

[Vividice]

vor 18 Stunden schrieb xombob89:

Someone said at later ranks you need less feeding technically, because you get more subsume slots. So maybe its not as bad as it seems. 

That is only true for leveling helminth. Teaching frames subsumed abilities takes a large chunk of stored ressources. So unless you only want to learn 2-3 abilities you will run out of ressources quickly. Just giving 10 frames Eclipse would eat up most of my Bile ressources aside from morphics.

[Lost_Cartographer]

18 hours ago, herflik said:

They wanted to burn our resources on Railjack building, later they reduced it by a lot and refunded the resources. I guess this process will repeat here or it will stay as the the end-game resource burn.

They want to burn our resources, but realistically they're looking at it like they do challenging the META - most players aren't sitting on hundreds of thousands to millions of any one resource, just as most players probably aren't playing the META builds (but if roughly one in four are, of course it will seem that way in most pubs.)

We need riven-kitguns/zaws with stats based on resources chosen for each if DE really wants us to blow through our resources in a non-dumpy way.  Not sure they're ready for that kind of data load though.  Would also kind of destroy the excitement behind tenno reinforcements.