Energy Munitions

[(XBOX)UltraMagnus5000]

Is this ability affected by strength so that it is possible to get 100% ammo efficiency. And if it is possible then you can abuse this with the new soma prime augment that allow it to get more critical chance when you hit a target but reset when you have to reload

[(XBOX)SweatyPick3L]

29 minutes ago, (XB1)UltraMagnus5000 said:

Is this ability affected by strength so that it is possible to get 100% ammo efficiency. And if it is possible then you can abuse this with the new soma prime augment that allow it to get more critical chance when you hit a target but reset when you have to reload

Nope. Flat 75%. I wish it was 100%. 

[schilds]

No, it's fixed at 75%.

[taiiat]

you could use that to get more out the Soma Augment i suppose, yes.
within the normal Magazine of 200, you get to 146% Crit Chance.... which is not worth using over Argon Scope, which is already generally not worth using.

 

however, with 75% Efficiency, let's see what we get on the last Shot now......
(keep in mind that i don't know if Efficiency is treated as a Chance to not consume Ammo or a fixed rate)

362% Cit Chance on the last Shot. well, that certainly sounds amusing, but even if you're using Primed Shred on Soma, it already takes 9 seconds to empty the Magazine normally. 
with an effective capacity of 800, it'll take 34 Seconds to empty the Magazine.

so with the extra Efficiency the Augment gets to some actually neat numbers, but it takes so long to get there that...... it will literally never matter.

 

Arcane Pistoleer is more likely to be interesting with the Soma Augment, so that you could theoretically never Reload Soma for an entire Mission.
still gonna be hard to justify though. as you could have another Gun in all of that time instead.

[crimsonspartan1]

39 minutes ago, (XB1)YoungGunn82 said:

Nope. Flat 75%. I wish it was 100%. 

75% isn’t bad at least. I just wish it didn’t have a mediocre 5 second base duration. Should buff it to 8-10 seconds at least so we can make more use of it. 

[Zeyez]

 

18 minutes ago, taiiat said:

you could use that to get more out the Soma Augment i suppose, yes.
within the normal Magazine of 200, you get to 146% Crit Chance.... which is not worth using over Argon Scope, which is already generally not worth using.

 

however, with 75% Efficiency, let's see what we get on the last Shot now......
(keep in mind that i don't know if Efficiency is treated as a Chance to not consume Ammo or a fixed rate)

362% Cit Chance on the last Shot. well, that certainly sounds amusing, but even if you're using Primed Shred on Soma, it already takes 9 seconds to empty the Magazine normally. 
with an effective capacity of 800, it'll take 34 Seconds to empty the Magazine.

so with the extra Efficiency the Augment gets to some actually neat numbers, but it takes so long to get there that...... it will literally never matter.

that Soma Prime augment:

it works with Synth set (auto-reload if not holstered) or it will reset the bonus? Ocucor has that sort of interaction and it doesn't removes those extra tendrils

[taiiat]

13 minutes ago, Zeyez said:

that Soma Prime augment:
it works with Synth set (auto-reload if not holstered) or it will reset the bonus? Ocucor has that sort of interaction and it doesn't removes those extra tendrils

i was actually right in the process of coming back here, as i noticed the last couple words on the Mod. Pistoleer won't work since you have to Switch Weapons. and Synth Set.... seems unlikely, using Melee to put it away without switching would still be considered Holstered so it should reset.

the Augment sounds less appealing than it already did, and it wasn't exactly appealing before hand.

[(XBOX)UltraMagnus5000]

I will use this ability with my solo eidolon build on Oberon as he already can heal lures and increase his damage and with this ability I am able to conserve ammo and will not need to run carrier and instead I can run Adarza Kavat or Sahasha Kubrow. 

[MasterBurik]

 

4 hours ago, crimsonspartan1 said:

75% isn’t bad at least. I just wish it didn’t have a mediocre 5 second base duration. Should buff it to 8-10 seconds at least so we can make more use of it. 

Toxic Elemental Ward ends up more appealing to my Euphona Prime.

 

DE must be afraid of the low mag size, low RoF "hand cannons"...

[0_The_F00l]

This is effectively a 300% magazine and ammo capacity mod i guess?

The duration also feels low (not just here many of the helminth abilities feel just a little lacking to be good QoL) maybe if it was "until next reload" it would have been more useful as some weapons have very poor fire rate or reload speed or both to take advantage of it.