SpaceGirlLuna Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 The text on Nekros's Soul Punch augment 'Soul Survivor' is gendered for no particular reason. Obviously, it's not that big of a deal, but its something i noticed and thought could be updated at some point ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Hey, good point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatboyPrincess Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 yes i agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laveillon Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Don't take it in the wrong way, but at the moment we have waaay more important things to fix beforehand. Words are not something to be offended by. We are humans, we will make mistakes. We have to be understanding to each other. At some point in the future, they may fix it, but i would rather have them focus their attention towards progression blocker bugs. For example, yesterday i was not able to crack isolation vaults, symbols were misplaced, T1 failed because of that, then T2 and T3 got insta-failed somehow. I would say, i miss my earned resources more, than those few letters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 20 minutes ago, Laveillon said: Don't take it in the wrong way, but at the moment we have waaay more important things to fix beforehand. Words are not something to be offended by. I don't see anyone expressing that this is offensive, and it would take like 5 seconds to fix. The thread aims to make devs aware of the "revive him" in the Mod text, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightmareT12 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Yeah, would feel better if text said "Use on downed allies to revive them" collectively instead of singular as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidArkhangel Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 hace 11 horas, SenorClipClop dijo: ... and it would take like 5 seconds to fix. Like a lot of things. hace 11 horas, SenorClipClop dijo: ... The thread aims to make devs aware of the "revive him" in the Mod text, that's it. I don't see any problem with that really cuz the description says: "Use on a downed ally to revive him..." says what needs to say so it doesn't need to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 11 hours ago, VoidArkhangel said: "Use on a downed ally to revive him them ..." And it's just that easy. If Bone Daddy goes to revive a Saryn, "him" is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AugustFestival Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 i dont really understand why people are being sorta grumpy about you pointing this out, I cant imagine it would take very long to edit a single word in an ability description??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andele3025 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Despite English not really using grammatical gender, it does still exist overall in the roots of the language so he for ally aint wrong and technically isnt even referencing the sex of the target. On topic of Soul Survivor, please can we add invul time on revive? 1s for every 100 energy (energy amount needed scaling with efficiency or something) to it so that said ally doesnt get nuked the moment you "consciousness punch". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidArkhangel Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 hace 12 horas, SenorClipClop dijo: And it's just that easy. If Bone Daddy goes to revive a Saryn, "him" is incorrect. on a downed ally to revive....(don't know about you but the ability doesn't revive more than 1 ally) if you really want to change the gender cuz reasons it would be "on a downed ally to revive it", wich sounds awful (to me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 18 minutes ago, VoidArkhangel said: -snip- "Them" is commonly used as a third-person singular pronoun if the subject is not obviously male or female, if the subject could be either, etc. Examples here. Other augments use "they" as the pronoun referring to allies, though in those cases the allies could be singular or plural, as is the case with Oberon's Smite Infusion and other "add elemental damage" mods like it, as well as Rift Haven. The abilities can affect just one ally at a time (and the Smite Infusion group of mods used to be single-target), but descriptions refer to multiple allies, so whether "their" is singular or plural in those cases is ambiguous. But then there's Loki's Safeguard Switch, which uses singular they: "After teleporting with an ally they will be invulnerable for 6 seconds." Sure, generic "he" is a thing, but it's pretty uncommon these days and isn't used in this game at all, barring Soul Survivor. Using "him" on the mod looks like an oversight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidArkhangel Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 hace 50 minutos, SenorClipClop dijo: -snip- Ok, here's the shorter version: No real need to change = It will not change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 6 hours ago, VoidArkhangel said: No real need to change = It will not change. 20 hours ago, SenorClipClop said: If Bone Daddy goes to revive a Saryn, "him" is incorrect. But if we use "them" instead, it works for every frame. Why are you so resistant to this idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AugustFestival Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 3 hours ago, SenorClipClop said: But if we use "them" instead, it works for every frame. Why are you so resistant to this idea? probably cause its got to do with pronouns, can you imagine being met with any resistance for a different but similarly banal consistency/grammar correction? say the game used color and colour in two different places by accident, would anyone comment trying to justify keeping that mistake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Has anyone noticed that you cant equip it in the arsenal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Prometheus_Steel Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 On 2020-08-31 at 6:55 PM, VoidArkhangel said: on a downed ally to revive....(don't know about you but the ability doesn't revive more than 1 ally) if you really want to change the gender cuz reasons it would be "on a downed ally to revive it", wich sounds awful (to me) Its orwellian newspeak, technically since ally is not male or female it's not so much to do with gender stuff but more with correct grammar. I mean I do get that being a grammar Nazi but I'm not bothered by him, also the correct term for a yet unidentified or neutral party would be them, since in this one case ally is completely neutral so it applies but I hate saying that cuz it feels like im giving an inch to the gender mob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Prometheus_Steel Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 On 2020-09-01 at 6:36 AM, AugustFestival said: probably cause its got to do with pronouns, can you imagine being met with any resistance for a different but similarly banal consistency/grammar correction? say the game used color and colour in two different places by accident, would anyone comment trying to justify keeping that mistake? I know I would not care, since I honestly have no idea which is the correct term for color or colour, almost every other website I visit seems to be in turmoil for that one word. One Dev may say color, other may say colour. I say I do not give a #*!%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Prometheus_Steel Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 On 2020-09-01 at 3:21 AM, SenorClipClop said: But if we use "them" instead, it works for every frame. Why are you so resistant to this idea? Well I can say why, because maybe in the past this would be a non-issue. But nowadays it is a kinda atomized thing where it may feel to some, well feels to some that they are slowly forced into orwellian newspeak and I share the resentment for that but like some cannot see beyond gender in the way that not everyone might accept their view on it. It's in this case so that people can't see beyond gender in the way that they think it's them being forced to change their language. But as you might see Im using they and them left and right here because as with the mod, as with the word ally. I have no idea about who specifically Im speaking and if I have no idea it's grammatically correct to use they and them to refer to groups or unidentified parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Prometheus_Steel Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 My opinion is, yes it's a small thing to change. But it's so small and it won't change a thing, so why bother, who gives a rats ass. Im a grammar nazi 100% but seriously, it wont influence yer gameplay so. Nah not important at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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