What about non-melee Zaw?

[VanFanel1980mx]

Or something like Ostron's take on primary and secondary weapons by some other name as to not mix up with Kitguns (since they are getting integrated with infested kitguns), aside from thinking we could use at least 3 more Zaw strikes and handles for the melee class what about some silent weapons fit for a more "primitive looking" setting like the Ostron's?

It would be mostly bows, crossbows or bowgun, bows and crossbows would be primary only similar to Dread or Attica with slower fire rates, bowguns can be secondary like Ballistica with increased fire rate but more compact, a "subcategory" for secondaries could be a wrist mounted bowgun, for the crit/status modifying components it could boil down to the arrow head component.

[0_The_F00l]

you will probably get a modular rock you can throw ,

or maybe konzus early lunch thats been sitting in the sun for too long with choice of main , side and drink to make it more effective at giving food poisoning to enemies.

 

While i agree that there could be some low tech ranged weapons (bows, grenades, pies) you also have to look at there being no melee equivalent of kit guns in fortuna (a proper plasma torch weapon or a pipe wrench would be nice).

Each culture has its specialisation:

Ostron: melee and cuisine,

Solaris: Makeshift tech and songs,

Entrati : Genetic engineering and family values.

 

with that being said , we could always have a new NPC that found his true calling there after being apprenticed to zudd, similarly pedlek might be shipped off to fortuna for some reason that is most likely his own fault (dumb pedlek couldnt even boil water without burning it)

[trst]

I could see it working.

Arrows, Bowstring, or the Quiver to be the "Barrel" component for firing/payload type.

A Stock (crossbow) or Grip (bow) to determine weapon type and damage v fire rate.

And Limbs to act as the Loader/Link for secondary stats.

Would also just be nice in general to have some better bows that could better compete with Snipers aside from the Daikyu.

[Lost_Cartographer]

Cetus kitguns will likely involve projectile weapons.  Crossbows in particular would continue to fit with the other existing kitgun parts, possibly a grenade launcher barrel.  I could see them creating a bow "receiver", but I can only imagine the barrel being an arrowhead and magazines the tail of the arrow in that setup?

Speaking of Cetus kitguns, we still need Fortuna Zaws.  Not like we don't have weapons with descriptions explicitly stating their  original civilian application.

[VanFanel1980mx]

1 hour ago, Lost_Cartographer said:

Cetus kitguns will likely involve projectile weapons.  Crossbows in particular would continue to fit with the other existing kitgun parts, possibly a grenade launcher barrel.  I could see them creating a bow "receiver", but I can only imagine the barrel being an arrowhead and magazines the tail of the arrow in that setup?

Speaking of Cetus kitguns, we still need Fortuna Zaws.  Not like we don't have weapons with descriptions explicitly stating their  original civilian application.

The only reason I wouldn't call them "ranged Zaws" or the like would be as to not pollute the riven unveiling list.

[Lost_Cartographer]

38 minutes ago, VanFanel1980mx said:

The only reason I wouldn't call them "ranged Zaws" or the like would be as to not pollute the riven unveiling list.

They're going to be called kitguns.  There is no good reason not to.  Every new weapon "pollutes" the riven pool.

[VanFanel1980mx]

6 minutes ago, Lost_Cartographer said:

They're going to be called kitguns.  There is no good reason not to.  Every new weapon "pollutes" the riven pool.

Still not the same pollution when you see how there are Zaw and Kitgun rivens, more so because we still have the same amount of kitgun classes, the only variant on them is primary and secondary so the new ones will be the first to pollute the kitgun riven pool.

[Lost_Cartographer]

1 hour ago, VanFanel1980mx said:

Still not the same pollution when you see how there are Zaw and Kitgun rivens, more so because we still have the same amount of kitgun classes, the only variant on them is primary and secondary so the new ones will be the first to pollute the kitgun riven pool.

I'm not seeing how this is a real problem, just unfortunate, but necessary.

[(XBOX)Cram Duahcim]

I'd love to see Bows added to the kit gun system. You could have traditional bow types in PoE and then other Bow types in Fortuna like the Lenz etc. More Corpus bows would be interesting.

[White_Matter]

Modular bow/crossbow would be awesome. Maybe a speargun or a gunblade while they are at it.

[Rantear]

Just my 2 cents, on what it could be:
Primary: Bows, crossbows, throwing spears (you can already throw gun-spears, but it's not the same)
slingshots (lol, although if you use a spiky or bladed metal ball or a caltrop instead of a stone it wouldn't be so stupid)

Secondary: Throwing hatchets, stars, daggers, bolas, poison vials.
One issue with secondaires is how da Hek are you supposed to customize those

For most of them i would love to see them stick to the target not only visually, but also making some procs be infinite, or just majorly increased base duration, like i would imagine if you make a hedgehog out of Grineer with throwing spears they should bleed for a long time, or throwing alot of toxic or acid vials at the enemy completely covering the enemy in fluid would work better than just shooting them with a toxic/corrosive bullet. Not like it would matter anyway, since it's not efficient to wait out till DoTs kill the target, and there would be better weapons that can stack procs AND kill the target faster anyway.

[quxier]

On 2020-08-30 at 11:52 AM, Lost_Cartographer said:

Speaking of Cetus kitguns, we still need Fortuna Zaws.  Not like we don't have weapons with descriptions explicitly stating their  original civilian application.

Glaives, gunblades and even whips or claws... I wish we could make gunblades & glaives.

[Prexades]

vor 30 Minuten schrieb quxier:

Glaives, gunblades and even whips or claws... I wish we could make gunblades & glaives.

Not to forget hammers, sword and shield, whips, blade and whip, two handed nikanas, tonfas, warfans.

[xombob89]

On 2020-08-30 at 11:00 AM, 0_The_F00l said:

you will probably get a modular rock you can throw ,

LOL

Now I want pet rocks in Warframe. 

Modular bows could be fun though. I wouldn't be surprised if we got some sooner or later. 

[quxier]

41 minutes ago, Prexades said:

1 hour ago, quxier said:

 

Not to forget hammers, sword and shield, whips, blade and whip, two handed nikanas, tonfas, warfans.

Yeah... but glaives & gunblades are the most interesting. And they are required to be bit "corpus" (technology).

[MajedTheShrewd]

You can make any Zaw throw-able by using Exodia Contagion Arcane and you will get AOE red critical attacks better then any Primary or Secondary weapons. Because of that it was the choice weapon in scarlet spear event.

[minininja77]

2 hours ago, quxier said:

Yeah... but glaives & gunblades are the most interesting. And they are required to be bit "corpus" (technology).

I see no reason why the Ostron could not make a boomerang type glaive with out the help of the corpus 

[ChaoticEdge]

I've been wondering the same thing too with this the fact I've been wondering that why we hadn't seen their range weapons with the bows and arrows for aren't they useful?  They know bow and arrows they had aren't effective against grineer's armor for it could explain it they try to shoot them with it but then again overthinking it for it could be faults.  As again, we aren't sure their arrows able go though grineer's armor or not but it doesn't hurt if we can try for they already made melee weapons which farmer's melee weapons.

1 hour ago, minininja77 said:

I see no reason why the Ostron could not make a boomerang type glaive with out the help of the corpus 

That can be faults, we have a tenno's bp donate to the ostron

We still have this but still players abandon this weapons because it's gimmick weapon and the tenno would gladly share this bp because Ostron can improve the design better and able figure out make it like the zaw weapons alignment with theirs.

Also no we aren't keep this weapons for ourselves for I barely see anyone using this weapon because they read what it does and everyone hate it and part the greatest abandonment by the players, I still held on to it and remind myself how bad this weapon is because it focus on impact and never was given a cared.  At the mean time, I think everything will work itself out for I think but don't give hope because everything what DE do might backfired with hot flame with pepper spray in all of players and communities like they pepper spray us with xaku's chose of abilities.